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[mcfelix]

Glad the session went well, but sorry you got bad news.

If you want to continue nursing, is there a reason you don't want to pursue therapy? DD has a tongue tie, which we had corrected, and then we took her to a chiropractor for a few sessions to help loosen up her jaw. It helped her!

[mcfelix]

ahh ok, I can see why you might be wary of it. When the dentist that clipped her tongue ties suggested, DH and I were like WTF - chiropractic care for a baby?

it really was very simple. I have no idea how to describe this in technical terms. She would kind of massage around her jaw a little bit, and then she used a silver tool thing that clicked and pressed it against each side of her mouth. She would also move her head around, like stretching her neck. None of it bothered DD - she never cried or seemed like she was in any kind of pain.

[dottyblue]

Apr 8, 2016 14:38:53 GMT -5 @simpledog said:

I went to the LC today to help me with getting DS2 to latch more consistently/ with less drama. Good news - my insurance now covers it! And she was nice and not pushy!

Bad news - We did a weighted feed and he only took 2/3 of an ounce total (10 ml from each side). I was not expecting this. When I give a bottle (paced) he usually takes 3-4 ounces.

So that's cool. She didn't think the nipple shield was an issue, and I have plenty of milk. She doesn't think he has a tongue tie, but that something is tight at the base of his tongue? Also she said his jaw doesn't move uniformly. Basically some part of his anatomy is preventing him from transferring milk effectively.

She said we can pursue some type of therapy (chiropractic, craniosacral), which we won't do. We can also get a tongue tie consult but she really doesn't seem to think it's that.

His weight gain so far has been good, probably because of the bottles I've been giving. So I can KOKO. Or I might just switch to formula, which is totally fine too. Or I could pump and combo feed, but pumping sucks. I don't know. He will definitely need bottles after nursing if I continue.

My kids suck at sucking!

Go see an ENT and have them check for Posterior (hidden) tongue tie.  The bolded was exactly what two LCs told me about DS1, but said "it's not a big deal!".  Yeah... we had milk transfer and weight gain issues because it was hidden tongue tie.

If you want to breastfeed without needing to pump to keep your supply up, I would recommend having it looked at.

I'm so glad you had a good experience with the LC you saw!  That's so encouraging.

[soozy87]

My son was adjusted by a chiro (my aunt) a few days after birth. All she did was lay him on his back and gently lift his head in her hands and very gently move his head from side to side.

Talk to the chiro on the phone or something before going to their office to see how they do it. A phone call or two is quick and commits you to nothing. I would pursue that before I did the tongue tie consult.

[celiacmom]

I'd have him checked by ent for posterior tie. They are routinely missed


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[anna7602]

Apr 8, 2016 15:06:17 GMT -5 mcfelix said:

Glad the session went well, but sorry you got bad news.

If you want to continue nursing, is there a reason you don't want to pursue therapy? DD has a tongue tie, which we had corrected, and then we took her to a chiropractor for a few sessions to help loosen up her jaw. It helped her!

Ditto, except insert craniosacral therapy instead of chiro. And DS had a lip tie in addition to a tongue tie.

ETA: and DS's tongue tie was posterior, which yes, as celiacmom said, is hard to diagnose.

[noodleskooze]

My ds had similar issues, and I ended up EPing. I wouldn't do that again, personally. I'd either pursue therapy for the baby or switch to formula.

[boiler717]

I've had several friends have great luck with craniosacral therapy.

[AmyRI]

I'm so glad you found a good LC!
But sorry you didn't get great news. I hope you can figure out a way to keep some level of nursing relationship since it seems like you want it.

Does he ever nurse without the shield? I'd be curious how much he transfers without it. It might not make a big difference for a baby with a strong suck but it can make issues with poor transfer that much worse.

I agree with PPs to seek out a pedi ENT to check for posterior tongue tie and the SLP for muscle issues. If you do want to try a chiro, make sure they are Webster certified. I'm on the app but I think the website is icpa4kids.com to find one.

Hugs.