Anyone still watch Girls? spoilers

[studytime45]

I don't know why I still watch. It's ridiculous but somewhat entertaining!

Hannah is so self-destructive! WTF!! I had to pause when she unzipped Ray's pants. I couldn't watch. So much embarrassment. 

Marnie is annoying. 

Shoshanna is annoying. 

The only intriguing part about the show to me is Adam Driver. He's kinda hot. And mysterious. lol 

[spitforspat]

I loved it when Adam said "you're an adult. She's a baby. Why do you need more help than a baby?"

[jojoandleo]

Apr 15, 2016 14:57:10 GMT -5 studytime45 said:

I don't know why I still watch. It's ridiculous but somewhat entertaining!

Hannah is so self-destructive! WTF!! I had to pause when she unzipped Ray's pants. I couldn't watch. So much embarrassment. 

OMG, YES! I am one of those annoying TV watchers who yells at the screen.  When Hannah did that, I was all, "What are you doing? What? WHAT!?! WHAT ARE YOU DOING!?!"

[TR]

I love it, I don't care. I don't think we're NOT supposed to find Hannah self-absorbed or Marnie annoying. I love how they're so unapologetically fucked up. Ray is awesome and underused. And Adam, he's my favorite. And the "Why do you need more help than a baby?" line was AH-mazing. Oh and I love Shoshanna and don't really find her annoying.

[sproctopus]

Oh, I can NOT with Hannah this season. Lena Dunham is irritating always to me, but Hannah is the worst this season.

Marnie and Charlie this season was the best ever episode in the history of this show.

[jojoandleo]

Apr 15, 2016 15:12:55 GMT -5 TR said:

I love it, I don't care. I don't think we're NOT supposed to find Hannah self-absorbed or Marnie annoying. I love how they're so unapologetically fucked up. Ray is awesome and underused. And Adam, he's my favorite. And the "Why do you need more help than a baby?" line was AH-mazing. Oh and I love Shoshanna and don't really find her annoying.

Shosh is my favorite. Marnie...Marnie I want to punch in her beautiful face. BUT, I am pretty sure you are supposed to want to punch her.

And, yes, I loved Adam's comment to Jessa. It's true about almost all those characters!

[joy]

I have not watched the most recent episode.

But.

The episode with Charlie haunted me. HAUNTED. If I found my serious college boyfriend after two years on the streets on NYC addicted to heroin, then I'd be a goddamn mess. Put aside the "I probably had unprotected sex with an IV drug user" implications, but just seeing someone I loved in such a dire situation would absolutely break my heart. I would do something - anything - to try and help him out of his terrible situation. I realize that has its own set of issues, but I would never be able to just go home and put the whole thing behind me.

Desi needs to just go away already. Man. Lisa Bonet was kind of an awesome addition.

[dancingnancy]

Apr 15, 2016 15:21:42 GMT -5 sproctopus said:

Marnie and Charlie this season was the best ever episode in the history of this show.

I couldn't agree more. As a whole I have hated this season, but that episode is by far the best ever.

[ECB]

My stepmother and I were discussing this earlier today. So - on one hand, I'm like "This is a show, the characters are fake. Yes, we're supposed to find Hannah totally self absorbed.". BUT I don't think Lena quite "gets" how people are seeing these characters.

When Hannah flashed her boss, Lena talked about how Hannah has a quirky sense of humor that Fran just doesn't get. I was like "NO NO NO!!!! That was just so OVER the line and wrong and inappropriate. Not "funny" on ANY level!!". I don't know if Lena really gets that.

Then another interview, she talked about how controlling Fran was and again, I was kind of like "Um, I never really got that from him". what I got was that he understands how adults in the real world should act and kind of expects that from Hannah! Yes, he was more straight laced than her, but I didn't get controlling from him.

[lissaholly]

sproctopus, Yes! That Marnie/Charlie episode was awesome. It really was a mini movie.

I love Elijah's storyline. He wants it all. He acts all superficial, but he wants to be someone's one and only, more. It's sweet;)

Hannah is just so. . .off. Fran and her was just so confusing. But more so is her inconsideration. Break up from a rest stop bathroom. Calling a friend to pick her up and then ruling his truck and ditching him. How many bridges can she burn?!

I did love the line " Now I can't show my vagina to people? Fran, it's almost summer!"

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Apr 15, 2016 16:03:42 GMT -5 ECB said:

My stepmother and I were discussing this earlier today. So - on one hand, I'm like "This is a show, the characters are fake. Yes, we're supposed to find Hannah totally self absorbed.". BUT I don't think Lena quite "gets" how people are seeing these characters.

When Hannah flashed her boss, Lena talked about how Hannah has a quirky sense of humor that Fran just doesn't get. I was like "NO NO NO!!!! That was just so OVER the line and wrong and inappropriate. Not "funny" on ANY level!!". I don't know if Lena really gets that.

Then another interview, she talked about how controlling Fran was and again, I was kind of like "Um, I never really got that from him". what I got was that he understands how adults in the real world should act and kind of expects that from Hannah! Yes, he was more straight laced than her, but I didn't get controlling from him.

Yes.  Lena doesn't seem to get it at all.  I feel like she's in her own bubble in terms of boundaries and social appropriateness.  

The thing that is really bothering me is that this show has created these very lost characters.  These characters that don't really even know themselves.  And those characters are female.  Sure, Lena's dad is struggling.  But look at Adam and Ray and Elijah and Fran, they are stable; they aren't flailing around and acting like, "screw boundaries I will flash my cooch at whoever or blow a long-time friend or engage in adultery/cheating".  It's just...it feels very crappy that a woman is at the forefront of that show in terms of writing.

I also blame Judd Apatow.  *narrows eyes* His female lead character for the Netflix series, Love, said volumes and definitely parallels the kind of characters depicted in Girls.  

[foundmylazybum]

Apr 15, 2016 16:03:42 GMT -5 ECB said:

My stepmother and I were discussing this earlier today. So - on one hand, I'm like "This is a show, the characters are fake. Yes, we're supposed to find Hannah totally self absorbed.". BUT I don't think Lena quite "gets" how people are seeing these characters.

When Hannah flashed her boss, Lena talked about how Hannah has a quirky sense of humor that Fran just doesn't get. I was like "NO NO NO!!!! That was just so OVER the line and wrong and inappropriate. Not "funny" on ANY level!!". I don't know if Lena really gets that.

Then another interview, she talked about how controlling Fran was and again, I was kind of like "Um, I never really got that from him". what I got was that he understands how adults in the real world should act and kind of expects that from Hannah! Yes, he was more straight laced than her, but I didn't get controlling from him.

I have been obsessed with Fran--and by another turn then Hannah as an unreliable narrator. We NEVER get to see Fran's side of the story and how he really views Hannah and her actions. Like, Hannah thought that it was wrong that Fran had all those nude pictures of his ex girlfriends on his phone (which was weird to me but whatever)--and she took away his autonomy in the relationship by DELETING THE PICTURES. WTF. I would have broken up with her. Speaking of controlling much?

She also *always* spoke about Fran as this controlling dick, but never reflected on her actions (like flashing the principal) or trying to force an inappropriate conversation at the wrong time etc.

She is an unreliable narrator. It drives me insane.

On another note, when she got the ride from the guy who had been abused and was coming from Nevada to NYC--and he got soooo excited to see the city and have a new beginning: I actually became emotional. I don't know why, but I really liked that part.

[joy]

Apr 15, 2016 16:09:28 GMT -5 @stellarsailor said:

Apr 15, 2016 15:57:22 GMT -5 joy said:

I realize that has its own set of issues, but I would never be able to just go home and put the whole thing behind me.

Also, weren't Charlie and Ray bff or am I mixing that up with Adam? I thought the three of them were close. There's so many things that have happened in the last four years.

I thought it was completely fucked up of Marnie to go up to Ray and basically insinuate that she was available after finding out about the heroin.

Yes!!! Charlie and Ray were best friends!

I second everything ECB said about Lena. I read the imdb boards about Girls and her interpretation of her own scenes vs. everyone else's is brought up a lot. She's in her own world.

And yet. I watch. It's not even hate watching this season. Sigh.

[miso]

I like the show well enough.

But it suffers from a lot of things that I thought would be addressed better today than in the time of Friends long ago.

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Apr 15, 2016 17:35:44 GMT -5 miso said:

I like the show well enough.

But it suffers from a lot of things that I thought would be addressed better today than in the time of Friends long ago.

What things?  

[miso]

Apr 15, 2016 18:07:32 GMT -5 @imback said:

Apr 15, 2016 17:35:44 GMT -5 miso said:

I like the show well enough.

But it suffers from a lot of things that I thought would be addressed better today than in the time of Friends long ago.

What things?  

Really?

[TrudyCampbell]

I actually love this season! I think it's better than ever.

[TrudyCampbell]

Lisa Bonet is drinking some kind of fountain of youth magic.

[Deleted]

Apr 15, 2016 18:16:02 GMT -5 miso said:

Apr 15, 2016 18:07:32 GMT -5 @imback said:

What things?  

Really?

Miso, things is vague.  I had no idea what you were referring to. 

[miso]

Apr 15, 2016 18:29:11 GMT -5 @imback said:

Apr 15, 2016 18:16:02 GMT -5 miso said:

Really?

Miso, things is vague.  I had no idea what you were referring to. 

I think a reference to Friends is very obvious.

But maybe that's because I'm not white.