Maybe I DID ovulate? Confused...

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It's my first cycle off BCP, first month ever charting, etc. Today is CD25. The last three mornings I've shown a pretty marked temperature shift (36.1C on CD22 to 36.5C on CD23-25)). OPKs have all be negative for the last week, and I've had no EWCM (though I guess you could say it's been watery).

FF is saying that I ovulated 5 days ago (on CD20). I guess maybe the OPKs weren't sensitive enough, or my urine was too diluted?

So, yeah, that one kind of threw me for a loop. And even though we weren't getting our hopes up for this month at all, if I DID ovulate, it would have been nice to capitalize on that a little more (our timing was pretty bad, because the OPKs were all negative). But, maybe we got lucky....guess we'll see!

[jessuhmarie]

Can you link in your FF chart? I'm honestly not familiar with Celsius temps and I'd have to see the overall chart to make an opinion. If you have a short surge or had diluted urine, it is definitely possible to never get positive OPKs. What brand are you using? Did you ever have different shades on your OPKs? Of 11 cycles, I had EWCM maaaaybe twice (definitely once). Some people just don't get it or it isn't enough. Watery CM is still fertile CM.

Without seeing your chart, I obviously can't form an opinion without any other fertile signs (besides the watery CM).

Honestly, next cycle (if this one doesn't work), I would not wait for positive OPKs to have sex. I almost always O the day after my first positive, that only gives you two days to have sex (and sex on O doesn't have very good stats). Maybe try having sex EOD or every third day after your period, until your cycle regulates a little more (so you know when to expect O).

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Okay, chart is below. The temps around the beginning of my cycle are wonky because I wasn't temping at the same time every day until about week in.

My husband had knee surgery 11 days ago, so we were laying off on the sex while his knee healed, hoping that a positive OPK would let us know when it was time to give it a shot. I think we may be good (we had intercourse on CD19, so if I did ovulate on CD20 we might still be good).


chartgraph_module.php by briesbooks, on Flickr

[statlerwaldorf]

I've never gotten a positive opk even when I know for sure I've ovulated.

[thoseareradishes]

I think you used the wrong link, as I am seeing my own chart (everyone will see their own chart if they are signed into FF...happens all the time on the bump). It was funny cause I was like, oh, you definitely O'ed!, then I was like, oh, that's my chart, heh.

[Deleted]

Oh...sorry about that! So how do I post it so you will see MY chart?

The OPKs are generic drug store brand "compare to ClearBlue Easy." Wand type, not strips.

For my job, it's really important that I stay hydrated (I fly fighter jets), so I pretty much never go more than two hours without drinking liquid, except when I'm asleep, and this test specifically said not to use first morning urine....I did get a slight fade around CD20-CD21, but still way to faint to be a positive.

I've ordered wondfos to use for next cycle, since the ladies on here have said they're good for first morning urine and generally more sensitive than other tests.

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What about now? I uploaded it to Flickr, and copied the link from there....hopefully that worked!

[thoseareradishes]

Yep, that works! Your last 3 temps are higher, but I think you might just have to see how the rest of the cycle goes...if they stay high, you may have O'ed on CD 20 or maybe CD 22?

Cool job! Do you fly every day?

ETA: I think to share your own chart you have to go to the sharing tab on FF. Under that tab is "charting homepage" and that is where you set it up to share.

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I fly about 3-4 days a week right now, but I'm pretty much on "standby" every day in case someone else gets sick. If I get pregnant, I'll have to stop flying right away, and I won't be able to fly again until after the birth, which is kind of sad for me....and unfortunately, will almost certainly have an impact on my career progression. But I'm almost 32, and just don't feel like it's fair to me or my husband to wait any longer:-)

[Cheesecake]

I'd guess you might've O'd on CD22 (if temps stay up), the coverline also seems too low for me, but if you'd put it correctly for CD20, your CD21 would still be over the coverline, but CD 22 way under, so that seems wrong. If you put your coverline correctly for O on CD22, all days past CD22 are above the coverline so far. I've hear of implantation dips (or dips 5 days or later after O, but not just 1 day after O.

I didn't get any conclusive OPK's this cycle either. I'm fairly certain of which day it would've been positive if I would've been able to test one more time, but I never got a full on positive. The lines did change color between the days though, so that's something you can still go by. (I make notes of that on my chart).

[jessuhmarie]

Depending on your reasoning for that open circle on CD21, I think you O'd CD 22.

I can see why you might have missed your surge on OPKs if you stay super hydrated. Around the time that I know I am going to O, I test every time I pee unless I know I've had a lot of fluids. I think it's best to order those wondfos if you get to CD1. They're so cheap and I've never had a problem with using FMU with them.

You were going great until your husband had surgery! I hope he heals quickly!

Next cycle, I'd chart your watery CM so FF has more data to use in case you don't catch your surge again. Do you remember what CDs you had the watery CM? GL!

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Sept 2, 2012 14:07:33 GMT -5 jessuhmarie said:

Depending on your reasoning for that open circle on CD21, I think you O'd CD 22.

I can see why you might have missed your surge on OPKs if you stay super hydrated. Around the time that I know I am going to O, I test every time I pee unless I know I've had a lot of fluids. I think it's best to order those wondfos if you get to CD1. They're so cheap and I've never had a problem with using FMU with them.

You were going great until your husband had surgery! I hope he heals quickly!

Next cycle, I'd chart your watery CM so FF has more data to use in case you don't catch your surge again. Do you remember what CDs you had the watery CM? GL!

CD21 I took my temp about 45 minutes early because I REALLY had to get up and pee, so I temped first.

I would say the watery CM was sort of in the middle of last week, so probably around CD20, but I don't remember exactly. I log my temp way early in the morning on my iPhone (then go back to sleep for a few hours before I wake up) so I haven't been good about going back into the FF app to log my CM.

[jessuhmarie]

Sept 2, 2012 14:36:46 GMT -5 @villainv said:

CD21 I took my temp about 45 minutes early because I REALLY had to get up and pee, so I temped first.

I would say the watery CM was sort of in the middle of last week, so probably around CD20, but I don't remember exactly. I log my temp way early in the morning on my iPhone (then go back to sleep for a few hours before I wake up) so I haven't been good about going back into the FF app to log my CM.

I'm not sure how much 45min would raise your temp.. hmmm.. I guess it doesn't matter much what I think or not. You're either pregnant or not pregnant and you can't re-take that temp. I think you def O'd.. I just don't know if I agree with FF. I'm pretty positive if you had a lower temp for CD21, that FF would move your crosshairs. At least it looks like you O'd your first cycle off of BCP! And it wasn't too late. My regular O dates were b/w CD16-21.

Are you checking CM internally or just by looking at the TP or your underwear? You may have EWCM.

Do you have any testing plans or are you just going to wait for your period?

[jenn1298]

Sept 2, 2012 8:06:52 GMT -5 statlerwaldorf said:

I've never gotten a positive opk even when I know for sure I've ovulated.

Interesting. How did you know you ovulated then?

[statlerwaldorf]

Sept 2, 2012 17:19:07 GMT -5 jenn1298 said:

Sept 2, 2012 8:06:52 GMT -5 statlerwaldorf said:

I've never gotten a positive opk even when I know for sure I've ovulated.

Interesting. How did you know you ovulated then?

Charting and I was being monitored. I don't ovulate without meds. I'm not sure if the meds would affect that or not.

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Sept 2, 2012 15:28:53 GMT -5 jessuhmarie said:

Sept 2, 2012 14:36:46 GMT -5 @villainv said:

CD21 I took my temp about 45 minutes early because I REALLY had to get up and pee, so I temped first.

I would say the watery CM was sort of in the middle of last week, so probably around CD20, but I don't remember exactly. I log my temp way early in the morning on my iPhone (then go back to sleep for a few hours before I wake up) so I haven't been good about going back into the FF app to log my CM.

I'm not sure how much 45min would raise your temp.. hmmm.. I guess it doesn't matter much what I think or not. You're either pregnant or not pregnant and you can't re-take that temp. I think you def O'd.. I just don't know if I agree with FF. I'm pretty positive if you had a lower temp for CD21, that FF would move your crosshairs. At least it looks like you O'd your first cycle off of BCP! And it wasn't too late. My regular O dates were b/w CD16-21.

Are you checking CM internally or just by looking at the TP or your underwear? You may have EWCM.

Do you have any testing plans or are you just going to wait for your period?

To be honest, this cycle I wasn't religious about checking CM, so I was kind of doing a combination of both. When I was on BCP I had lots of CM, so it was pretty obvious by checking my underwear. Now that I'm off it seems to have dried up, so I guess I'll have to do more internal checking.

I really wasn't expecting to get pregnant this cycle (I wasn't even really expecting to ovulate!) so I have no plans to test. I guess I'll wait and see if I get my period and go from there. And keep temping. Oh yeah, another high-ish temp this morning (same as yesterday, 36.4).

[jessuhmarie]

Sept 2, 2012 21:16:41 GMT -5 statlerwaldorf said:

Sept 2, 2012 17:19:07 GMT -5 jenn1298 said:

Interesting. How did you know you ovulated then?

Charting and I was being monitored. I don't ovulate without meds. I'm not sure if the meds would affect that or not.

I've heard that it can affect your OPK results, but I have no direct experience.

[winecheery]

This thread is so educational! I'm not temping, but just the info about fluctuating O days, and the various experiences of ladies on here make me feel so much more relaxed.

Villan, we are literally on the exact same cycle. Off by two days, ma'am. And from a few threads we seem to be having similar symptoms (or in some cases lack thereof) It's comforting to me. Nutty!

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Winecherry, I noticed that as well! It's nice to know that we're in the same place -- I've learned a lot from posts where you've asked questions as well. I think we're experiencing a lot of the same things!

[statlerwaldorf]

I couldn't see the chart from my phone, but looking at it now I think you ovulated either cd20-22. That open circle and lowish temp on cd22 are throwing me off. You will have to watch it for a few more days to make sure it stays up. I would guess cd20 since you got up early your temperature would probably be a little bit lower than waking up on time.

You can use the temperature adjuster at www.whenmybaby.com. It's not perfect, but it's worked pretty well when I've been woken up early.

[jessuhmarie]

Sept 3, 2012 13:05:08 GMT -5 statlerwaldorf said:

I couldn't see the chart from my phone, but looking at it now I think you ovulated either cd20-22. That open circle and lowish temp on cd22 are throwing me off. You will have to watch it for a few more days to make sure it stays up. I would guess cd20 since you got up early your temperature would probably be a little bit lower than waking up on time.

You can use the temperature adjuster at www.whenmybaby.com. It's not perfect, but it's worked pretty well when I've been woken up early.

FF has one too. I'm not sure if you can access it on mobile.

[Deleted]

Mystery solved....AF started today (CD27), so I'm pretty sure I didn't ovulate last month. No biggie, wasn't expecting to, and H and I had low expectations for cycle #1. So, now we start a new cycle and keep our fingers crossed!

Thanks for all of your help and replies, I really appreciate it!

[jessuhmarie]

I'm sorry about CD1 ): I hope you O this cycle and that your husband is feeling better from his surgery! GL!