ANOTHER another police shooting.

[honeychai]

I'm horrified.

Guys, this is getting worse.

[panicfoot]

I'm so pissed and so heartbroken. That poor man and his loved ones.

[Deleted]

Jul 6, 2016 23:54:02 GMT -5 killercupcake said:

I saw the video earlier on FB. I couldn't believe what I was watching.

That poor family.

I didn't watch the video bc there were so many warnings about how graphic it is. I just can't watch it. That poor family.. how tragic. When will this stop

[Jalapeñomel]

Jul 7, 2016 9:32:07 GMT -5 honeychai said:

I'm horrified.

Guys, this is getting worse.

I feel like this is only the beginning, especially if Trump is our next president.

[Deleted]

so I watched it. and I am in tears at my desk. That poor poor family. That poor woman. But I am SO GLAD she was brave enough to record that.

I just can't with this bullshit. A licensed to carry black man can be shot to DEATH in hiscar for a broken tail light. I drove around with one headlight out for months maybe close to a year. I never got pulled over or was in fear that I would be shot and killed in my vehicle.

I am just so sad for this family, this man, this baby who won't know their dad, for this woman who watched her boyfriend DIE in front of her at the hands of those who are sworn to protect her.

[05heel]

Jul 7, 2016 9:32:07 GMT -5 honeychai said:

I'm horrified.

Guys, this is getting worse.

No, it isn't.  This has been happening for so many years, in so many forms.  What we're seeing is increased publicity.  I'd encourage everyone to stop saying that things are getting worse, because that only gives space for the police apologists and BLM-haters to get defensive, and to be a little bit right.  Everyone knows deep down that this is the way it's always been, and exactly how the system was designed. 

[gizmo]

The man was executed over a tail light. The saddest thing about that video is her little girl at the end reassuring her that she is there with her, she's not alone. God help that poor baby. I am horrified, I am outraged. I keep tearing up trying to keep it together but my blood is boiling.

[Deleted]

Jul 7, 2016 0:14:41 GMT -5 mcmel said:

I just watched the video on YouTube and it is enraging.

The police officer screams fuck a couple of times I believe so I wonder if he realizes he just murdered someone.

Near the end of the video she says that she did have weed in the car so that may be why she's in custody? I have no clue.

I should be speechless, but I'm just really fucking angry.

Weed.  WEED.  I guarantee you that if some hippie white boy got pulled over and said "I have a license to carry and a firearm and weed and let me get my license" he would not be dead.  Shit white boy could say he has 10000 lbs of coke and he wouldn't be dead. 

not saying you feel that way at all. I just literally watched it and I am disgusted and so fucking sad.

[Deleted]

Jul 7, 2016 10:59:47 GMT -5 05heel said:

Jul 7, 2016 9:32:07 GMT -5 honeychai said:

I'm horrified.

Guys, this is getting worse.

No, it isn't.  This has been happening for so many years, in so many forms.  What we're seeing is increased publicity.  I'd encourage everyone to stop saying that things are getting worse, because that only gives space for the police apologists and BLM-haters to get defensive, and to be a little bit right.  Everyone knows deep down that this is the way it's always been, and exactly how the system was designed. 

I agree.  I am going to be 100% honest right here.  I am a white woman living in a burb in Ma.  We didn't hear about police shootings ever when I was growing up and when we did it was in the city.  Often times the buzz by racist people (which unfortunatly was too common in our lily white town) was that somehow the person shot deserved it bc he / she was a thug a criminal etc..  As I grew up I would see things more and more in the newspaper but again words... no photos, no videos and its easier to detach from that.  (not saying that is okay. I am frankly disgusted with the fact that I was so sheltered that I thought everything in the world was so hunky dory) Seeing it first hand via videos and photos and it being more visible makes sheltered white people such as myself think its getting worse when in reality for people of color its been this way forever.  And that makes me sad.  And mad.  And disgusted.  and feel a bit helpless.  What can I do?  what change could I spark.  because quite frankly watching that woman be brave enough to film this atrocity while her beloved boyfriend is dying and her child is crying and she was  afraid for her own life has hit me in a place that I just feel like we can't let this fucking shit keep happening.  When will it stop.  This is not to say that all of the other senseless acts of police brutality haven't enraged me.  Every single one of them has.  and it makes me very sad to think that my friends and loved ones and many of the amazing women of  color on this very board and their families live with this fear every day.  ... I am rambling bc I just can't even put into words...

[rageragerage]

Jul 7, 2016 9:32:07 GMT -5 honeychai said:

I'm horrified.

Guys, this is getting worse.

Nope, it just keeps happening.

I have to raise my black son in this world that at 4 people already assume he is 7 or 8.  So in a few years he will 'look' like a teenager and become scary.  My sweet, funny kid will be treated like shit and met with fear because of how he looks, just like black men were in the 60's because nothing has fucking changed.

[rageragerage]

Jul 7, 2016 10:59:55 GMT -5 gizmo said:

The man was executed over a tail light. The saddest thing about that video is her little girl at the end reassuring her that she is there with her, she's not alone. God help that poor baby. I am horrified, I am outraged. I keep tearing up trying to keep it together but my blood is boiling.

That is not the saddest thing about this video.  The saddest thing was that a man was killed for no reason.

[periwinkle]

DH and I just watched the video and we're both just so disgusted. Why is the first response always to shoot to kill? This man followed the proper steps by informing the officer he had a firearm and was going to reach for his ID. Something's gotta give here, this can't continue to be allowed as the norm for the police. What the hell? It's so enraging to think that if it was a white man he would still be alive. If the cop was THAT terrified to have no control over himself or his firearm, this really isn't the profession for him. WTF.

[RoxMonster]

Yet over on CeP an article just was posted about a white man in Raleigh actually fucking pointing a gun at an officer and oh look. They got the weapon away from him and he lived.

But no. This has nothing to do with race.

[05heel]

Jul 7, 2016 11:12:20 GMT -5 @sloanpeterson said:

Jul 7, 2016 10:59:47 GMT -5 05heel said:

No, it isn't.  This has been happening for so many years, in so many forms.  What we're seeing is increased publicity.  I'd encourage everyone to stop saying that things are getting worse, because that only gives space for the police apologists and BLM-haters to get defensive, and to be a little bit right.  Everyone knows deep down that this is the way it's always been, and exactly how the system was designed. 

I agree.  I am going to be 100% honest right here.  I am a white woman living in a burb in Ma.  We didn't hear about police shootings ever when I was growing up and when we did it was in the city.  Often times the buzz by racist people (which unfortunatly was too common in our lily white town) was that somehow the person shot deserved it bc he / she was a thug a criminal etc..  As I grew up I would see things more and more in the newspaper but again words... no photos, no videos and its easier to detach from that.  (not saying that is okay. I am frankly disgusted with the fact that I was so sheltered that I thought everything in the world was so hunky dory) Seeing it first hand via videos and photos and it being more visible makes sheltered white people such as myself think its getting worse when in reality for people of color its been this way forever.  And that makes me sad.  And mad.  And disgusted.  and feel a bit helpless.  What can I do?  what change could I spark.  because quite frankly watching that woman be brave enough to film this atrocity while her beloved boyfriend is dying and her child is crying and she was  afraid for her own life has hit me in a place that I just feel like we can't let this fucking shit keep happening.  When will it stop.  This is not to say that all of the other senseless acts of police brutality haven't enraged me.  Every single one of them has.  and it makes me very sad to think that my friends and loved ones and many of the amazing women of  color on this very board and their families live with this fear every day.  ... I am rambling bc I just can't even put into words...

Just continue to be angry.  Vocally angry.  Get mad at the apologists, and minimizers, and those who justify what's taking place.  Call people out in your own circle.  Unfriend them on Facebook.  Listen when POC express their views and offer your support without your opinion.   Make sure that people know we are dealing with real life-or-death situations, not some abstract racial harmony BS ideal.  That will never exist, but we can at least try to make it clear that it's not ok for black people to have to fear for their life on a daily basis. 

Tell them about my husband, who is scared to drive my SUV because I forgot to renew the tags.  They're only a month out of date, which is punishable by a $25 fine in my state.  If he gets pulled over, he can reasonably expect to be roughed up, yelled at, humiliated, detained, or killed.  Would your husband fear the same treatment?  Ask why some people seem to be ok with this disparity, and whether they agree that this is a form of state-sanctioned terrorism. 

[Deleted]

Jul 7, 2016 11:28:19 GMT -5 05heel said:

Jul 7, 2016 11:12:20 GMT -5 @sloanpeterson said:

I agree.  I am going to be 100% honest right here.  I am a white woman living in a burb in Ma.  We didn't hear about police shootings ever when I was growing up and when we did it was in the city.  Often times the buzz by racist people (which unfortunatly was too common in our lily white town) was that somehow the person shot deserved it bc he / she was a thug a criminal etc..  As I grew up I would see things more and more in the newspaper but again words... no photos, no videos and its easier to detach from that.  (not saying that is okay. I am frankly disgusted with the fact that I was so sheltered that I thought everything in the world was so hunky dory) Seeing it first hand via videos and photos and it being more visible makes sheltered white people such as myself think its getting worse when in reality for people of color its been this way forever.  And that makes me sad.  And mad.  And disgusted.  and feel a bit helpless.  What can I do?  what change could I spark.  because quite frankly watching that woman be brave enough to film this atrocity while her beloved boyfriend is dying and her child is crying and she was  afraid for her own life has hit me in a place that I just feel like we can't let this fucking shit keep happening.  When will it stop.  This is not to say that all of the other senseless acts of police brutality haven't enraged me.  Every single one of them has.  and it makes me very sad to think that my friends and loved ones and many of the amazing women of  color on this very board and their families live with this fear every day.  ... I am rambling bc I just can't even put into words...

Just continue to be angry.  Vocally angry.  Get mad at the apologists, and minimizers, and those who justify what's taking place.  Call people out in your own circle.  Unfriend them on Facebook.  Listen when POC express their views and offer your support without your opinion.   Make sure that people know we are dealing with real life-or-death situations, not some abstract racial harmony BS ideal.  That will never exist, but we can at least try to make it clear that it's not ok for black people to have to fear for their life on a daily basis. 

Tell them about my husband, who is scared to drive my SUV because I forgot to renew the tags.  They're only a month out of date, which is punishable by a $25 fine in my state.  If he gets pulled over, he can reasonably expect to be roughed up, yelled at, humiliated, detained, or killed.  Would your husband fear the same treatment?  Ask why some people seem to be ok with this disparity, and whether they agree that this is a form of state-sanctioned terrorism. 

you have my word that I will do all that and anything else that I can.   

and no my ex wouldn't ever fear that if tags were expired.  I hate that your husband has to. 

[toledo]

Jul 7, 2016 9:32:07 GMT -5 honeychai said:

I'm horrified.

Guys, this is getting worse.

[papie]

I just read the descriptions of the events earlier today and it felt like a punch in the gut. I am so horrified that we live in a world where this happens. Not once or twice, but every day.

[W.T.Faulkner]

What I don't understand is my white friends and family members' adamant refusal to acknowledge the severity of this issue. What do we, as white people of privilege, lose by admitting that YES, there is a statistically higher likelihood that a traffic stop will end in death for a black person as opposed to a white person, and that YES, the color of my skin would likely afford me the benefit of the doubt in an encounter with a police officer?

I don't get the denial. I don't get it. I lose nothing by declaring what I see in front of my fucking face to be true.

[muffin0]

His kid was in the back seat.

I want off this ride. This shit is not fucking okay.

[rex]

i am so angry and devastated.

this is not new, but it has got to end.

[05heel]

Jul 7, 2016 11:44:42 GMT -5 W.T.Faulkner said:

What I don't understand is my white friends and family members' adamant refusal to acknowledge the severity of this issue. What do we, as white people of privilege, lose by admitting that YES, there is a statistically higher likelihood that a traffic stop will end in death for a black person as opposed to a white person, and that YES, the color of my skin would likely afford me the benefit of the doubt in an encounter with a police officer?

I don't get the denial. I don't get it. I lose nothing by declaring what I see in front of my fucking face to be true.

I'm happy to be wrong here, but this is the one thing I actually understand.  Who wants to give up any privilege, real or perceived?  It's an uncomfortable thing to address, and I have my own privileges that I cling to, albeit shamefully and reluctantly.  Who wouldn't want to be last in the line of people to be killed?  This racial privilege didn't just materialize out of the ether.  It has to be cultivated, massaged, and presented in a pretty package so that folks are only too happy to maintain it.  Even the term "privilege" is a very nice way to frame the violence against black and brown bodies that built this country and maintains the status quo.  So, yes, I get it.  I don't find it bewildering in the least.  It actually makes sense to me, which is why I really would be a fool and a half to hold out much hope for improvement. 

[W.T.Faulkner]

Jul 7, 2016 12:02:56 GMT -5 05heel said:

Jul 7, 2016 11:44:42 GMT -5 W.T.Faulkner said:

What I don't understand is my white friends and family members' adamant refusal to acknowledge the severity of this issue. What do we, as white people of privilege, lose by admitting that YES, there is a statistically higher likelihood that a traffic stop will end in death for a black person as opposed to a white person, and that YES, the color of my skin would likely afford me the benefit of the doubt in an encounter with a police officer?

I don't get the denial. I don't get it. I lose nothing by declaring what I see in front of my fucking face to be true.

I'm happy to be wrong here, but this is the one thing I actually understand.  Who wants to give up any privilege, real or perceived?  It's an uncomfortable thing to address, and I have my own privileges that I cling to, albeit shamefully and reluctantly.  Who wouldn't want to be last in the line of people to be killed?  This racial privilege didn't just materialize out of the ether.  It has to be cultivated, massaged, and presented in a pretty package so that folks are only too happy to maintain it.  Even the term "privilege" is a very nice way to frame the violence against black and brown bodies that built this country and maintains the status quo.  So, yes, I get it.  I don't find it bewildering in the least.  It actually makes sense to me, which is why I really would be a fool and a half to hold out much hope for improvement. 

I understand this idea as it applies to college admissions and housing, as the (woefully wrong, misguided, etc.) fear is that there just isn't enough to go around, and that we as white people might lose our "spot" to a less deserving person of color (again, fucking seriously, I just got slightly nauseated typing that).

But encouraging reforms that would lead to fewer executions of black men at the hands of police officers doesn't mean that more white men would die by police gunfire. Who could honestly believe that even for a second?  What is there to be afraid of with THIS particular regard?

[05heel]

Jul 7, 2016 12:10:30 GMT -5 W.T.Faulkner said:

Jul 7, 2016 12:02:56 GMT -5 05heel said:

I'm happy to be wrong here, but this is the one thing I actually understand.  Who wants to give up any privilege, real or perceived?  It's an uncomfortable thing to address, and I have my own privileges that I cling to, albeit shamefully and reluctantly.  Who wouldn't want to be last in the line of people to be killed?  This racial privilege didn't just materialize out of the ether.  It has to be cultivated, massaged, and presented in a pretty package so that folks are only too happy to maintain it.  Even the term "privilege" is a very nice way to frame the violence against black and brown bodies that built this country and maintains the status quo.  So, yes, I get it.  I don't find it bewildering in the least.  It actually makes sense to me, which is why I really would be a fool and a half to hold out much hope for improvement. 

I understand this idea as it applies to college admissions and housing, as the (woefully wrong, misguided, etc.) fear is that there just isn't enough to go around, and that we as white people might lose our "spot" to a less deserving person of color (again, fucking seriously, I just got slightly nauseated typing that).

But encouraging reforms that would lead to fewer executions of black men at the hands of police officers doesn't mean that more white men would die by police gunfire. Who could honestly believe that even for a second?  What is there to be afraid of with THIS particular regard?

You can't get to those attitudes about college, housing, and other "higher" ideals without cultivating a true sense of otherness w/r/t black people.  No one is really afraid that more white people would die.  They're scared that fewer black people will die.  You feed the masses the visuals of black people being gunned down like animals, and show white people in the same situations being treated with dignity and humanity.  Then you make this terrible disparity palatable to them in other, more insidious ways. 

[W.T.Faulkner]

Jul 7, 2016 12:21:31 GMT -5 05heel said:

Jul 7, 2016 12:10:30 GMT -5 W.T.Faulkner said:

I understand this idea as it applies to college admissions and housing, as the (woefully wrong, misguided, etc.) fear is that there just isn't enough to go around, and that we as white people might lose our "spot" to a less deserving person of color (again, fucking seriously, I just got slightly nauseated typing that).

But encouraging reforms that would lead to fewer executions of black men at the hands of police officers doesn't mean that more white men would die by police gunfire. Who could honestly believe that even for a second?  What is there to be afraid of with THIS particular regard?

You can't get to those attitudes about college, housing, and other "higher" ideals without cultivating a true sense of otherness w/r/t black people.  No one is really afraid that more white people would die.  They're scared that fewer black people will die.  You feed the masses the visuals of black people being gunned down like animals, and show white people in the same situations being treated with dignity and humanity.  Then you make this terrible disparity palatable to them in other, more insidious ways. 

You could not be more right, and I just...I don't know. I don't even know what to say. 

[Deleted]

Jul 7, 2016 11:57:56 GMT -5 carmenere said:

I am literally sick to my stomach with rage right now. What's even more infuriating is the people on my fb feed trying to soothe their white guilt by victim blaming. It's disgusting.

Please say something and unfriend them on facebook. 

[cleo29]

Jul 7, 2016 5:51:10 GMT -5 tiki said:

I don't understand. What was he supposed to do that would have kept the officer from shooting? How could the officer have possibly justified his choice of action? At first, I wondered how she could have stayed calm while her boyfriend was dying next to her and she was unable to get medical aid for him, until I realized of course she must have also been scared for her life and the life of her daughter.

This situation was so benign, and yet it ended in death. Terrifying. I don't know what to do.

he's supposed to be white, otherwise no matter what he does he is fair game.

This is all so maddening and disgusting. This country needs to let go of its childish love of guns and unwillingness to see how poor legislation is AND there needs to be a serious overhaul of police policies.

[gummy]

I just can't with this video but holy shit everyone needs watch it, to feel it. Watching him take his last few breaths while still seat belted into his seat, covered with blood. The calmness of Diamond, the child in the back, the child comforting her mother while in the back of the police car. Horrific and unnecessary.

[meshaliuknits]

Jul 7, 2016 10:59:47 GMT -5 05heel said:

Jul 7, 2016 9:32:07 GMT -5 honeychai said:

I'm horrified.

Guys, this is getting worse.

No, it isn't.  This has been happening for so many years, in so many forms.  What we're seeing is increased publicity.  I'd encourage everyone to stop saying that things are getting worse, because that only gives space for the police apologists and BLM-haters to get defensive, and to be a little bit right.  Everyone knows deep down that this is the way it's always been, and exactly how the system was designed. 

Thank god for cell phones with cameras.

[elleblue]

Jul 7, 2016 12:52:58 GMT -5 @wandering said:

Jul 7, 2016 11:57:56 GMT -5 carmenere said:

I am literally sick to my stomach with rage right now. What's even more infuriating is the people on my fb feed trying to soothe their white guilt by victim blaming. It's disgusting.

Please say something and unfriend them on facebook. 

Not that everyone will want to do this but when something like that comes across my feed I speak up and purposefully don't unfriend them, so I can continue to speak up every time. If they want to unfriend me, fine, but I'd rather stick around if possible to challenge their views. So far, I have yet to be unfriended. And it's even more gratifying to see friends of friends who I don't personally know speak up too and support my callouts. 

[muffin0]

nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2016/07/07/black-female-cop-posts-powerful-video-response-to-the-shooting-deaths-of-black-men/

I want to hug this woman.