I disagree with some of the advice in this thread. I gave 6 weeks notice at my last job and if I gave anything less than 4 it would reflect very poorly on me.
I don't think 4 weeks is absurd and I would call the new company and ask if you can set a start date of four weeks after the background check comes back.
I would not quit until the background check came back.
Post by dreamcrisp1 on Jul 8, 2016 18:56:04 GMT -5
I also went back to my new job and asked for more. I don't think it reflects badly at all because, to me, it shows that thought for your current employer so don't feel bad if you do that.
Post by Balki.Bartokomous on Jul 8, 2016 21:31:03 GMT -5
I'm really surprised at the 4 week thing. I've never heard of anything but 2 weeks being the norm. They're not going to be able to hire someone in 4 weeks anyway.
When I left the university, I gave them 3 months notice & they still couldn't get their act together to find a replacement in time, so I see no reason to give more than 2 weeks. That's plenty of time to transfer work to someone. Until you give notice, I would work on documenting what you've been working on. Having those SOPs can make a transition easier & might make them more comfortable with a 2 week notice.
Just as a data point, my employment agreement asks for 30 days. I plan to try to do that (if/when I leave). I think dexteroni had great points and you should give your new employer a heads up.
When I left the university, I gave them 3 months notice & they still couldn't get their act together to find a replacement in time, so I see no reason to give more than 2 weeks.
I gave 3 months once at a job where my job was basically a month long cycle. I thought that would give them 2 months to hire someone and a month to train. Ha ha ha. I had ONE WEEK to train the new guy. So, I never stress too much about howmuch notice to give.
But that being said, if I liked the company and was leaving on good terms, I'd probably try to give more. But if I just wanted OUT - I'd give 2 weeks.
I"m glad to see your asking HR. That will hopefully help in your decision.
Post by followyourarrow on Jul 9, 2016 10:01:14 GMT -5
Hopefully HR can help. I'd give the 4 weeks notice. While you don't want to go back to your specific department, where you work is a large place and I'd hate to burn bridges there. I know in my case, my employee record would also carry over to any other similar organization in the entire state and they'd know I didn't give the required 4 weeks. I'm obviously being a little vague here, but feel free to pm me.
I would go ahead and put together my resignation email and turn it in tomorrow. Even if you have a common name your new employer is required to go through an adjudication process in the event that a "hit" comes back on your background check. Even with a common name, showing a different DOB or SSN will take care of that potential issue.
Regarding duration of notice: I would let my new employer know that you just became aware of the 4 week notice requirement and that you will need to make your start date a little further out than anticipated. Your position with the new company is a professional position and they should understand that sometimes longer resignation periods are required. If they ask for more details I would let them know that leaving any earlier would make you lose your PTO payout. Who knows, they may offer a little extra to get you to them faster so the loss wouldn't be such a big deal.
HR got back to me and they said that although the employee handbook just says what is preferred, each department has different policies. My department requires 30 days unless I want to be marked as "not eligible for rehire".
I also just missed a call from the new company saying that my background checks have come back and they would like to discuss my start date. I'm so nervous about telling them they now have to wait 2 weeks longer than initially planned.
HR got back to me and they said that although the employee handbook just says what is preferred, each department has different policies. My department requires 30 days unless I want to be marked as "not eligible for rehire".
I also just missed a call from the new company saying that my background checks have come back and they would like to discuss my start date. I'm so nervous about telling them they now have to wait 2 weeks longer than initially planned.
Just let them know that you learned from HR. They will understand.
HR got back to me and they said that although the employee handbook just says what is preferred, each department has different policies. My department requires 30 days unless I want to be marked as "not eligible for rehire".
I also just missed a call from the new company saying that my background checks have come back and they would like to discuss my start date. I'm so nervous about telling them they now have to wait 2 weeks longer than initially planned.
Ok. At this point, unless you were specifically banking on something they can withhold if you do not provide four weeks notice, then provide whatever notice you feel comfortable with and be done with it. These people were assholes to you for years, shady as fuck, manipulative and threatening, and you are still sitting around quivering over what to do. You owe them nothing. The only thing they owe you is is compensation for work performed. That's it.
Personally? I'd tell your new employer that I am available to start four weeks from today, or Monday August 8. I'd tell the current place that you will be resigning effective the end of business on Friday, July 22. Then I'd take a good two weeks and rest, sleep in, drink during the day and get ready for the next gig. Then I'd start the new job on the 8th.
If the worst they can do to you is label you "ineligible for re-hire" then they have done you a goddamned favor. If the new place needs you sooner than four weeks then GO. Old place has already shown you that it sucks there. Getting paid out for that PTO would be nice, but it if they hold it back its not the end of the world.
HR got back to me and they said that although the employee handbook just says what is preferred, each department has different policies. My department requires 30 days unless I want to be marked as "not eligible for rehire".
I also just missed a call from the new company saying that my background checks have come back and they would like to discuss my start date. I'm so nervous about telling them they now have to wait 2 weeks longer than initially planned.
Don't freak out - they hired you because they want you. Two weeks is nothing. I would wait 2-3 months for my perfect candidate.
Just tell the new place that your current position requires 4 weeks notice and you look forward to starting with them after that.
The new company's HR person got ahold me of right before she left for the day. She said that she would have to speak to my new manager and see what she wants to do about this delayed timeline. Hopefully I will hear back first thing tomorrow morning so that I can give my notice.
Try not to stress. When I left my last crappy job, my background check for the new job took forever, and occurred over a holiday, so I messed with my stat date. The HR person made it sound like a problem. My boss was all, "Yeah, that day is great." If they want you, they'll make it work
Oh man I've been a flake lately! I checked with my HR and they said that it is up to each individual department to set their rules. I checked back with my mentor and she said 30 days is now required for us. The new company came back and said that was fine. I gave my 30 days' notice today! My manager was understanding and said that she was sad that they would be losing me, but she is happy that I'm moving on to great things and I won't be stagnant in my career like so many people that work around us. It was such an immediate relief to finally give my notice. I haven't been able to stop smiling since then.
Oh man I've been a flake lately! I checked with my HR and they said that it is up to each individual department to set their rules. I checked back with my mentor and she said 30 days is now required for us. The new company came back and said that was fine. I gave my 30 days' notice today! My manager was understanding and said that she was sad that they would be losing me, but she is happy that I'm moving on to great things and I won't be stagnant in my career like so many people that work around us. It was such an immediate relief to finally give my notice. I haven't been able to stop smiling since then.
OMG I'm so excited for you! If I knew how to insert a gif, I totally would! Party time!