The "oh little Sussie and Johnny do not need to go to bed at 7" is driving me insane. Not all kids are the same. Not all schools start after 8. Some parents work.
I think people IRL think it's weird that we put him down so early because their kids can fully function going to sleep at 9 or later. Trust me, my kid really benefits from that extra sleep!! Sure, of course he can "survive" without. I found that comment irritating. Just like the snack thread, all kids are differen!!!!
Our school last bell is 7:55am, we leave at 7:30 and they are at school at 7:45.
ETA- she is also my child that is the worst in the morning. Slow getting up, cranky, gets distracted easily. It's even worse on days she doesn't get enough sleep.
So like, what time does she get up? I think a school age kid should be able to survive on sleeping from 8:30-6:30 - that's still 10 hours, which is a lot of sleep. I think that it's totally fair for Girl Scouts to have a 6pm meeting if school starts at essentially 8am the next morning. That is lots of time.
Let's not be so smug. You really think you can speak for every school age kid?
Post by copperboom on Sept 6, 2016 12:02:54 GMT -5
They are every other Frisay, right after school, 3:45-5:00. The girls who go to after school care are taken there by the troop leaders after the meetings.
I was our school's Daisy leader last year, and am moving up to Brownies this year. We meet at school, starting about 10 min after dismissal. Daisies were every week for an hour, and I'm leaning toward an hour and a half every other week for Brownies with one evening/weekend thing per month. It's made it a little harder to get adult volunteers, but girl participation is much better since we don't have working parents trying to get girls to evening meetings. We take girls to after school care and some take the late bus.
I work from home on GS days so I can be at meetings on time, if I didn't have that option meetings would have to be later. I'd have the same concerns as you with DD's bedtime, she's in bed by 7:30 and up at 6:15.
We had Boy Scouts at 7pm. Most activities in our area start at 6 or later. It can be tough! I do quick dinners, assembly line showers, and straight to bed. It is an adjustment, but I think we have it down over the years.
this is exactly why we chose fridays for our meetings. no (or less) homework, less strict bedtime, easy for everyone. we meet at 6:30 and go till 7:45. a weekday meeting was never even a consideration for us.
There is no way to make everyone happy LOL.
This is really the gist. I think with these things, it's a majority rules thing which is completely fair.
This is so weird! We're putting David in Cub Scouts and the first meeting is next Monday at 7pm. That is LATE! We put David down at 8pm, lol.
We're starting DS1 in Cubs this year, too. His first meeting is tonight at 7. He's typically in bed by 8 just like you do with David. We'll see how it goes!
I think people dismissing other family's bedtimes is weird and unnecessary. As much as a 4pm activity doesn't work for your child/family, a 9:30pm bedtime may not work for another child/family.
FTR, DD1 is in scouts and they have meetings on Sunday afternoons now, she's a cadette (they're all in 8th-9th grades). Back when they were younger they would meet on Tuesday evenings from 6:30-8. That was late for us because DD normally went to bed at 7:30 but since it was only once every other week we were able to make it work.
I lead two troops, each troop meets only once per month. Ideally I have the meetings after school, and kids that attend the after school program can just go the program after the meeting ends. However, last year I had to run my Daisy troop from 7-8pm for a few meetings during soccer season (as I coached a team until 6:30), and moved the time back to 6:30 during non-soccer season. it was not ideal, but if parents wanted their kids in Girl Scouts, they had to make it work. I did get into an argument with one mother over the time, and I kindly suggested that she run her own troop if once a month from 7-8pm was too late for her daughter, as I work full time, coach soccer, and run two troops (and only because nobody stepped up to lead, I reluctantly volunteered). we understood it was hard for parents and kids that late, unfortunately sometimes it is the only time that the meetings can be held. And it was much harder being a leader - as the other parents were home making lunches, doing laundry and getting organized for the next day, I was at the school with off the wall kids!
My fear with stuff like this is saying, "Hey, is there a troop that meets earlier that we could move into?"
And getting, "Sure, here's your new troop number. It's so awesome of you to volunteer to lead!"
you will definitely get pressured to start your own troop if there isn't an existing one that works for you.
BUT believe me, from experience, it is NOT that simple to start one. there are so many fucking hoops to jump through, and they always lose sight of the fact that these folks are volunteers.
sorry. i have a lot of anger towards the girl scout organization (or lack thereof) right now.
My fear with stuff like this is saying, "Hey, is there a troop that meets earlier that we could move into?"
And getting, "Sure, here's your new troop number. It's so awesome of you to volunteer to lead!"
you will definitely get pressured to start your own troop if there isn't an existing one that works for you.
BUT believe me, from experience, it is NOT that simple to start one. there are so many fucking hoops to jump through, and they always lose sight of the fact that these folks are volunteers.
sorry. i have a lot of anger towards the girl scout organization (or lack thereof) right now.
you will definitely get pressured to start your own troop if there isn't an existing one that works for you.
BUT believe me, from experience, it is NOT that simple to start one. there are so many fucking hoops to jump through, and they always lose sight of the fact that these folks are volunteers.
sorry. i have a lot of anger towards the girl scout organization (or lack thereof) right now.
My mom was a leader of my troop back in the day, and where I used to work, we housed several troop meetings. It seems like they're always overloaded with no solutions. It's not bad to have that many kids participating, but it's such a burden for the handful of people who are helping. Like you said, it's easy to lose sight of the volunteer aspect.
My aggravation is the amount of training they expect, but lack of offerings. I need to do XYZ, but it's offered one Wed at noon this month then not again until Nov.*
Post by Dumbledork on Sept 6, 2016 13:31:08 GMT -5
Her GS meetings are at 6m, but they're on Friday so it isn't bad.
Her swim lessons started out at 3:45 on T/Th last year. As she's moved up in levels, the time has gotten later. It's at 6 now, T/Th, 45 mins, but she has to shower after.
She goes to bed at 730 so I don't know what we're going to do.
So like, what time does she get up? I think a school age kid should be able to survive on sleeping from 8:30-6:30 - that's still 10 hours, which is a lot of sleep. I think that it's totally fair for Girl Scouts to have a 6pm meeting if school starts at essentially 8am the next morning. That is lots of time.
Let's not be so smug. You really think you can speak for every school age kid?
Well then don't put them in activities that don't work with your timeframe? Find another group that meets at times you can work with?
When DD1 did it my sister was the Troop leader and did it at 5 so my DD could go she could do it anytime after school. DD2 does not do it because she has behavior issued and I would have to be there and the meeting are to late. She goes to be at 7:15 or is a hot mess the next morning and day. We have to give her medications to let her mind reast so she can sleep as it is. There is no way we could do anything after 6PM. I do not know how homework would get done because sometimes that takes hours with her issues.
DD hasn't asked to join GS yet, thank goodness. I have enough going on with gymnastics and swimming. The days after those two are pure hell. My poor kids have to get up at 5:30 and if DH is on nights, I can't get to them until 4:45. It sucks so much.