My friend was told this week as she dropped her infant off to daycare to have another quickly so they both have the same father.
Oh. My. God!!! Your poor friend!! Who says shit like this???!!!?!? Reading crap like this makes me glad I don't live in the US. Is it perfect where I am? Hell, no! But we don't have centuries of hatred and biases based on the colour of a significant proportion of our citizen's skin. And mothers don't in general worry if their sons will safe as they walk or drive home at night.
Well you can just ride on out of here on your high horse in your little utopia of wherever the fuck you live.
Not helpful and ignorant to insert that comment in this thread.
I swear to god what the fuck is wrong with you simpletons.
JFC people. Racism and microagressions happen any and everywhere. It may not seem overt but trust, these issues are pervasive and there is no place on this planet (that is populated) that is immune.
Post by creamsiclechica on Sept 9, 2016 18:03:39 GMT -5
I'm from April 2012 and I fully admit to our outrageous failure as a group and acknowledge the damage consistently done by our complacency. I wanted to state that, and genuinely apologize for our fuck ups and the consistency/repeated denials or ignoring. There's no excuse, and I will offer nothing of the sort for our actions except sorrow and disgust at our behavior.
I'd also like to say that as white people, we need to accept that our actual existence, every action we take has racist under and overtones. And we should be embarrassed. We should feel shamed. And that should move us to fucking action, not action to read more, or hear more. But to be EXHAUSTED from standing up everywhere, including to yourself when you look in the damn mirror and realized what you just said and did was racist because you did not have to be afraid of consequences from every day things the way POC have to be.
Our hand wringing and hesitation to act on any level is a direct cause of black sons and daughters being slaughtered in the streets in communities everywhere. That's how dire the situation is.
My anger at this will never excuse what I've done and have yet to commit, because I will never know what it's like to be a POC no matter what I read, hear, or am told. But fuck. It's literally life and death for so many people, and no society on earth is exempt from that. Shut shit down whenever and wherever you can and know you're still failing. It's okay to feel inadequate and defeated. Imagine not having the fucking choice to feel anything but with no break. Fuck.
Didn't you guys know Ireland is a magical place with no hatred or prejudice? They prance around skipping blarney stones and pat themselves on the back for being better than the racist Americans.
The whites in Ireland have been having literal wars and bombing each other over Protestant vs. Catholic for centuries. But yeah - they're really accepting of "others"
Seriously, nobody needs your smugness in here about how you don't want to be linked to the RACIST white people.
Because, you're not a racist white person.
And there's no racism in the UK.
Oh, and also, your outrage over a "friend" whose husband just came out and is struggling, while you're spreading gossip.
The UK?
It's so odd that you no longer participate in this board because of the rampant racism, but you come back in here to point out that PP doesn't actually live in the UK.
I finally finished reading and I am truly ashamed at how unwelcoming and hurtful these boards (including and especially my home board) have been to the woc here. I am by no means perfect but damn...just be kind to your friends. Just be KIND. I don't know why this is so hard.
For example, if your friend told you she had a genetic form of breast cancer. Would you say to her face, omg I'm so glad I don't have your genes and I don't have to worry about breast cancer for myself or my family? I highly doubt it.
Just have some fucking common sense which clearly isn't very common because damn. After you type something, read it multiple times. Would you tell that to your friend in real life? Do you like to be an asshole?
At the very least if you are smug asshole and/or racist keep your damn thoughts to yourself. I know this mess will continue here and across other boards that's why I'm peacing out. But damn, and most of you simpletons are raising kids. Lord Jesus.
Ha. Ha! I'm in Ireland right now and I just had this convo with my mammy. She tried to tell me people in Ireland aren't racist! Lol. People like to think racism = yelling slurs in the street. I think Irish racism is a lot like Boston racism actually. Subtle ... Yet still so gross.
What I am having a problem with is that women are having a hard time understanding this! Women! Have all you other females never ever been treated less than simply bc of your sex that it is so hard to comprehend and understand and identify with others who get treated like they are less than simply for being who they are?
What I am having a problem with is that women are having a hard time understanding this! Women! Have all you other females never ever been treated less than simply bc of your sex that it is so hard to comprehend and understand and identify with others who get treated like they are less than simply for being who they are?
Right? These same women that make a huge deal over sexism, and gender equality, and will rant against discrimination of LBGT people really can't apply that same understanding to racism?
I am so incredibly grateful for the discussions about race that I've read on CEP over the past several years. And I'm grateful to the women of GBCN for teaching me that I live in a bubble of white privilege. I have forced myself to have uncomfortable conversations with my 7 year old because I want her to grow up to be aware of her privilege and to fight against racism when she sees it.
And I know that I have a long way to go.
The fact that some people chose to gossip and exclude instead of examining their own behavior makes me profoundly sad. What the fuck, ladies.
This. I was barely enlightened enough my this board (despite being raised by white liberal parents probably would swear on their Unitarian bible that they are not racists, but are) to go back to a conversation I had with a WOC counterpart at work and and try to own my ignorance and priveledge, because I was ashamed to admit I was just learning about that part of myself. She was gracious enough to accept my apology, but I wish I had been raised with more awareness, and I'm definitely trying to impart that in my 3and 6 year old. Don't get me wrong, I don't want any credit for this, because I should have been doing it earlier and all along. I'm embarrassed for my actions.
I was being an ass? Well shit. At least I wasn't showing my ass. How dare I try to bring real issues to light. GAWD IM SUCH AN ASSHOLE. THANK YOU FOR MAKING ME CHECK MYSELF. Hey @kirkette, sorry I was such an asshole. I'm listening and learning.
No no, I said *I* was being an ass by initially being annoyed by your post.
(And I haven't read further than this yet and am just about to go to dinner so if I'm not responding again immediately that's why, I will. )
Yeah not at all how your last paragraph reads to me.
Hold up. Maybe she's in the part of Ireland at the end of the rainbow with the gold and Leprechauns and so forth. I bet if you surf to a mythical land at the end of a rainbow it's racism-free. AND you have lots of gold. Win-win.
Hold up. Maybe she's in the part of Ireland at the end of the rainbow with the gold and Leprechauns and so forth. I bet if you surf to a mythical land at the end of a rainbow it's racism-free. AND you have lots of gold. Win-win.
So rather than discuss the issue which you care so much about you just couldn't bear to be here anymore, you decided to school people on their geography?
It's a shit show in here. The point was lost pages and pages ago. I was just pointing out an inaccuracy that I can easily speak to. It gets old continually telling Americans that Ireland is not in fact in the UK but gotta keep fighting the good fight you know.
Not as old as it gets for POC being told there are places with no racism. If this were true, don't you think they would all be there by now???
It's a shit show in here. The point was lost pages and pages ago. I was just pointing out an inaccuracy that I can easily speak to. It gets old continually telling Americans that Ireland is not in fact in the UK but gotta keep fighting the good fight you know.
Wrong time, wrong place. Sometimes you just need to let it go.