No, I really am not. I participated in discussions in the chat.
I had concerns about Tami's posts which I also posted here publicly.
What concerns did you have about my posts? The fact that I was right? That we have a bigotry problem here? The fact that this board has harbored racist for years?
Because that is what fucking concerns me.
Concerns that you would disrupt the peace even further, obviously!
I've been largely quiet here, as I have been honestly and truly assessing my own biases in ways I will not burden the board with. I really am trying to learn from everything that has transpired, and I recognize it's no one's responsibility but my own to do so. But I've been silent too long, and that has to stop.
I feel horrible for writing a post while this was posted and talking about unimportant baby clothes when this was going on. I am sorry for doing so. This is awful.
I have remained more silent (though not entirely so) than I would have liked during the last couple weeks as it took me quite some time to fully catch up on threads after returning from vacation offline.
I am ASTOUNDED by what in the actual fuck is wrong with folks. I have been challenging myself to stop being a spectator and start speaking up, mostly IRL but now will do the same on the boards.
@natariru - I can't find the words to properly express my outrage on your behalf and my disappointment in myself at having failed you and our WOC posters by passively observing the culture created and perpetuated on this board.
I don't even understand why you were removed. They thought you would tell someone (name redacted??) about what was being discussed in that group?
Every member of that group should be ashamed of themselves right now. If you can't say it out loud, don't say it at all.
Also, the name of that group is appalling.
I'm just gonna put it all out there.
Someone complained that tami taylor was being the board police in regards to the racial issues. A bunch of the simpletons agreed.
Then, I guess someone was like oh shit, natariru is still in the group, I better remove her. Probably hoping no one would notice.
Then someone was nice enough to speak up and say hey guys why was she removed from the group? Then, back pedaling in regards to they thought she was going to go tell Tami Taylor what happened, so that's why she was removed.
Thank you for explaining this because the images don't show up on my computer and I didn't pay attention to the GTG stuff, so I was slightly confused as to the specifics (beyond people being shitty to nata).
I have never in my life experienced anything anywhere near as vile as the WOC regularly experience on this forum. I am flabbergasted that this is still fucking happening. And then I wonder why am I flabbergasted; no one wants to change. They just want to appear that they have changed to the general public.
I am so incredible sad and angry for you Natariru. And all the other WOC who have to put up with this bullshit in their regular lives as well as here.
No, I really am not. I participated in discussions in the chat.
I had concerns about Tami's posts which I also posted here publicly.
What concerns did you have about my posts? The fact that I was right? That we have a bigotry problem here? The fact that this board has harbored racist for years?
Because that is what fucking concerns me.
I am confused. Are you trying to target specific people who you think haven't read the threads? Or are you trying to demand a collective silence on all unrelated topics?
I completely understand how the other posts ring hollow right now, but lots of posters have been posting as normally on other boards all week. There is no way to know who is reading, thinking, processing, reaching out privately, examining, etc.
I think silence and taking a break would be good for many/most of us right now, but I don't think this is the best way to accomplish that.
The above is what I posted in your thread. I suppose my "concerns" were simply about your tactics, never your intentions or your heart.
Yes, you were absolutely right.
I am not trying to defend my participation or any of my actions. I do not want to make any excuses or run away.
Wow, this is really shameful. I feel sick thinking about how Natariru (and other WOC posters) must feel reading that and honestly don't blame her one bit for leaving. Some kind of friends!
WHAT THE FUCK WITH THIS BULLSHIT? Every time we hit a new low, we manage to find a way to sink even lower. Not that it is ever okay to treat ANYONE this way, but @natariru, of all people, who is kind, funny and supportive to everyone. And this is the shit she gets in return???
Someone complained that tami taylor was being the board police in regards to the racial issues. A bunch of the simpletons agreed.
Then, I guess someone was like oh shit, natariru is still in the group, I better remove her. Probably hoping no one would notice.
Then someone was nice enough to speak up and say hey guys why was she removed from the group? Then, back pedaling in regards to they thought she was going to go tell Tami Taylor what happened, so that's why she was removed.
Let me guess....at least half (probably all) those simpletons were among the chorus of "I'm here, I'm listening. I'll do better."
I may not be the most involved person in these talks, but at least when I say something I'm not talking out of both sides of my mouth depending on who I'm talking to.
Damn.
You know it. I searched, and sure enough, this fool was all about "listening" and "I'll do better." And then, what, not even a week later she puts her foolishness on display in a group, a safe space free of board policing allies? That's grade A tomfoolery right there, of racist variety.
What concerns did you have about my posts? The fact that I was right? That we have a bigotry problem here? The fact that this board has harbored racist for years?
Because that is what fucking concerns me.
I am confused. Are you trying to target specific people who you think haven't read the threads? Or are you trying to demand a collective silence on all unrelated topics?
I completely understand how the other posts ring hollow right now, but lots of posters have been posting as normally on other boards all week. There is no way to know who is reading, thinking, processing, reaching out privately, examining, etc.
I think silence and taking a break would be good for many/most of us right now, but I don't think this is the best way to accomplish that.
The above is what I posted in your thread. I suppose my "concerns" were simply about your tactics, never your intentions or your heart.
Yes, you were absolutely right.
I am not trying to defend my participation or any of my actions. I do not want to make any excuses or run away.
Obviously my tactics were not "extreme" and "militant" enough because SAME SHIT DIFFERENT DAY! IM ABOUT TO GO FULL ON MARTIAL LAW! *TIC OBVIOUSLY
I can barely keep up around here. This post alone grew by two pages while I was reading it and will probably grow another page while I type but this is bullshit. I am actively trying to learn (thank you Jonathan Holloway for your open Yale course) because my white privilege definitely affects me, but this two-faced back-stabbing racist fuckery is both heart breaking and infuriating.