Amanda Knox documentary

[just]

anyone watch this yet?

I didn't go in with much knowledge of the case as I didn't follow at the time. I'm going to do some more reading.

Two initial thoughts 
- so much misogyny and slut shaming
- the real villain in the documentary was Nick Pisa. Fuck that guy.

[jennysmitten]

I watched it tonight and those were my exact thoughts.

[miniroller]

Not yet, but I'm subscribing, as it's on my list- hopefully this weekend 👍

[mcmel]

I didn't watch the documentary, but I've followed the case a teensy bit and believe that she was involved, but probably not alone.

How did the documentary lean?

[kirby]

I'm watching right now

[just]

Sept 30, 2016 21:18:20 GMT -5 mcmel said:

I didn't watch the documentary, but I've followed the case a teensy bit and believe that she was involved, but probably not alone.

How did the documentary lean?

It's pro-Knox, but less about solving the murder and more about observing Amanda's experience.

[kirby]

This journalist from The Daily Mail is disgusting.

[loira]

I watched it. I'm sad they couldn't get a journalist from a real paper to talk about it - the Daily Mail is total tabloid trash. Nick Pisa is gross.

Still so many unanswered questions. Maybe I missed something though...

How did the door to Kercher's room get locked? Who locked it and how did they get out?

I still get the sense there's more to the story, but a lot of her "weird behaviours" that led the police commissioner (who is also clearly a sexist pig) to suspect her can be explained by 2 things: 1) she was 20 years old. People do stupid, stupid stuff (like wait to call the police, engage in inappropriate displays of affection with lovers etc) when they are 20. 2) The language barrier. Being bullied by police in your own language is hard enough - in another language you are even more at a disadvantage.

ETA: I have no idea if she was involved or not, just that I can see why someone might behave the way she did under the circumstances.

[just]

Oct 1, 2016 17:20:45 GMT -5 loira said:

I watched it. I'm sad they couldn't get a journalist from a real paper to talk about it - the Daily Mail is total tabloid trash. Nick Pisa is gross.]

I'msure his inclusion was on purpose. The tabloids, particularly the British ones, were a major part of the immediate vilification of Amanda. Nothing could have shown that quite as clearly as having the asshole speaking for himself.

[nursewife]

Where did you guys watch this documentary? Was it on tv, or is it online?

[hopecounts]

Oct 1, 2016 18:54:49 GMT -5 nursewife said:

Where did you guys watch this documentary? Was it on tv, or is it online?

It's a Netflix documentary

[nursewife]

Oct 1, 2016 18:58:19 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

Oct 1, 2016 18:54:49 GMT -5 nursewife said:

Where did you guys watch this documentary? Was it on tv, or is it online?

It's a Netflix documentary

Well then, I guess I know what I'm doing the rest of the evening!!

[DaisyCakes]

Oct 1, 2016 19:00:57 GMT -5 nursewife said:

Oct 1, 2016 18:58:19 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

It's a Netflix documentary

Well then, I guess I know what I'm doing the rest of the evening!!

Me too! Watching now.

[nursewife]

Oct 1, 2016 20:01:26 GMT -5 DaisyCakes said:

Oct 1, 2016 19:00:57 GMT -5 nursewife said:

Well then, I guess I know what I'm doing the rest of the evening!!

Me too! Watching now.

I just turned it on!

[loira]

Oct 1, 2016 18:08:45 GMT -5 just said:

Oct 1, 2016 17:20:45 GMT -5 loira said:

I watched it. I'm sad they couldn't get a journalist from a real paper to talk about it - the Daily Mail is total tabloid trash. Nick Pisa is gross.]

I'msure his inclusion was on purpose. The tabloids, particularly the British ones, were a major part of the immediate vilification of Amanda. Nothing could have shown that quite as clearly as having the asshole speaking for himself.

I'm sure it was, too. His steadfast refusal to take responsibility (or to assign the media responsibility) for how any of it played out made me so angry. I just hate the DM so much... I would never want international viewers to think it was a reputable paper.

[nursewife]

I'm bothered that Trump managed to get into the damn documentary! Leave my murder mystery shows alone Donald!

[mariafromnj]

I have not had time to watch yet. I can't wait to be able to find the time. I followed the story And always felt like she was a part of it. I know this documentary is based pretty much on her point of view so I will see if it changes my mind.

[RoxMonster]

We started it last night and then I fell asleep so I plan to finish it today.

I knew the basics of this case when it happened but did not follow it closely at the time, so it's interesting for me to watch this now. Like I said, we are only about 40 min into so I have no idea what else they cover as it goes on. At first my thought was, "If I showed up to my house and the front door was wide open, I would probably call the cops and not even go in and then absolutely if I saw blood in the sink," but I realize not everyone is like that and she does seem to be just a quirky, different individual overall. My initial instinct is that she was involved somehow, but it will be interesting to see if the rest of the doc changes my mind.

[Violet]

Am I the only one that gagged when her cat walked across the kitchen counter with the food on it?

Also did anyone else read her book? I feel like her story in the book was a bit different, but it's been a few years since I read the book.

[yourmother]

I haven't thought of this case for a long time, so forgive me if this is something I should know. But did the killer say Amanda and her boyfriend were involved? What has he said about them?

[jigsy]

I didn't follow the case when it happened, but there seems to be a startling lack of evidence pointing to Amanda and Raffaele.
I do think its crazy that she saw her front door wide open and still went about her business. Imean, the little blood in the sink wouldnt have set me off too much alone, but the open door would have...but the arrogance of youth is strong.
I dont think her behavior points to guilt. Stress and trauma makes us do weird things. Add in the idea that Raffaele basically saved her life - if she had been home that night, she could have been a victim too - i think its natural for a 20 year old to cling to that person.

[whiskeytails]

Oct 2, 2016 14:53:15 GMT -5 jigsy said:

I do think its crazy that she saw her front door wide open and still went about her business. Imean, the little blood in the sink wouldnt have set me off too much alone, but the open door would have...but the arrogance of youth is strong.

I saw (and ignored) a lot of stupid things in the dorms when I was a CA (or RA, depending where you go) and 20. Things that depending on the circumstance could have ended badly, but I naively assumed that bad things wouldn't happen to me or my residents.

Even when I was 22, living with other people, you just assume that they are awful pigs. Granted, my experience was half-eaten food left on the ground and later found out it was squirrels, but you ignore a lot when you are partying, hungover and in love.

[sugarbear]

Oct 2, 2016 21:32:22 GMT -5 whiskeytails said:

Oct 2, 2016 14:53:15 GMT -5 jigsy said:

Granted, my experience was half-eaten food left on the ground and later found out it was squirrels, but you ignore a lot when you are partying, hungover and in love.

Come again?

[mcmel]

I watched it today and am looking a few things up online. It has opened my mind a bit.

[snorky]

I followed the case a bit when it happened because I always felt like Knox was innocent and that what happened to her could happen to any American student studying abroad. Seeing the interviews with the prosecutor and now knowing that he has been promoted make me sick- he is nothing but a misogynistic pig and he has no business being a public servant.

[RoxMonster]

Finally finished it. My opinion now is that I personally am not ready to say she was 100% innocent and had no knowledge of it but I absolutely don't think she should have been convicted given what they had as evidence.

Eta; And yeah there were a lot of misogynistic assholes surrounding this case.

[whiskeytails]

Oct 2, 2016 21:37:02 GMT -5 sugarbear said:

Oct 2, 2016 21:32:22 GMT -5 whiskeytails said:

Come again?

Yep. Lived with 5 other people who had friends & significant others over all the time. Kept finding half-eaten food on the floor in the kitchen. Thought I just lived with savages--nope. Instead we had squirrels living in the house with us.

[cjcouple]

OK, I think Amanda knows more than she is saying.

I mean come on? She was creeped out after seeing feces in the toilet but not after seeing the fucking door open, followed by blood in sink and on the carpet in the bathroom?

I also find it hard to believe she didn't even go check every room to make sure no one was hiding? But she decides to go shower and not even look anywhere but her room? No way!

I don't think she murdered her. I honestly don't think she was home or anything but she knows more than she is saying. I wouldn't be shocked if the Meredith's bedroom door was open, she saw the room and freaked out, closed the door and panicked.

why she would shower? only she knows.

[sugarbear]

Oct 3, 2016 4:32:17 GMT -5 whiskeytails said:

Oct 2, 2016 21:37:02 GMT -5 sugarbear said:

Yep. Lived with 5 other people who had friends & significant others over all the time. Kept finding half-eaten food on the floor in the kitchen. Thought I just lived with savages--nope. Instead we had squirrels living in the house with us.

Well, that's actually a relief. I thought you were (mistakenly?) eating squirrels.

[mrssandro]

I watched the documentary yesterday as well. She was so young and silly. I felt like the investigator had it in for her. He did not like how she was strong willed and that she was a "anarchist" and he wanted to look like a super star. The journalist involved wanted to sell papers. It was a perfect storm. I feel bad that it ruined her life.