Tell me what you think of my skin care regime

[nursewife]

Since starting my medical esthetics course, I've been self conscience and have amped up my skin care regime. Since there are so many skin gurus out there, can you give me an opinion? I have combination skin, that leans to the side of oily.

AM
- toner
- moisturizing serum
- sunscreen (physical)

PM
-fash wash (Eau Thermale Avene)
-toner
- serum (collagen serum) 
-2% retinol serum
-Latisse
-benefit eye cream (willing to change since I don't notice much of a benefit to it)
-Laneige water sleeping mask

Is there anything I should be adding or taking away?

[jaycee]

I haven't found much benefit to toner. Maybe I'm just using the wrong one. I don't use it in the morning, just at night.

Would you be opposed to taking to a dermatologist for a prescription for retin-a? It is many times stronger than the retinol that you're using. I have been very pleased with the results I've seen from using retin-a from my dermatologist.

I tried Laneige products but couldn't stand the added perfume.

Looks like an excellent routine to me - especially the sunscreen part.

[ijack]

what are your skin concerns?

[nursewife]

Nov 10, 2016 12:33:13 GMT -5 ijack said:

what are your skin concerns?

My skin is pretty good, and I want to keep it that way. I also get botox (for migraines), so that helps keep any forehead or crows feet wrinkles at bay. I don't want to develop any fine lines or what not. We had a speaker come into our esthetics course, and she was my age (33), and looked so much older. If I had to guess her age, I would have guessed 45. Ever since then I want to do as much as possible to avoid looking so aged. 

I do have a bit of acne and redness on my cheeks, but besides that, my skin is pretty good (I think).

[ijack]

My advice would be
a separate sunscreen every day (not just spf in your makeup or lotion), this is my fave
some sort of acid - retinol or vit C (and you definitely need a sunscreen if you're using these)

whoops, I just saw that you already have these in your routine. Your routine looks good to me. I don't know what kind of toner you're using but I would probably make sure it's not super harsh. What does your am serum have in it? You might just want to add some vitamins to your routine (through skincare products).

[nursewife]

Nov 11, 2016 10:49:43 GMT -5 ijack said:

My advice would be
a separate sunscreen every day (not just spf in your makeup or lotion), this is my fave
some sort of acid - retinol or vit C (and you definitely need a sunscreen if you're using these)

whoops, I just saw that you already have these in your routine. Your routine looks good to me. I don't know what kind of toner you're using but I would probably make sure it's not super harsh. What does your am serum have in it? You might just want to add some vitamins to your routine (through skincare products).

My morning serum is a La Roche Posay posay moisturizing serum. Do you have any suggestions on what products to use to add some vitamins?

[ijack]

A couple options
ordinaries.com/product/rdn-niacinamide-10pct-zinc-1pct-30ml
ordinaries.com/product/rdn-hyaluronic-acid-2pct-b5-30ml
ordinaries.com/product/rdn-buffet-30ml
www.amazon.com/Ferulic-NuFountain-Vitamin-Youthful-Complexion/dp/B0039LZW78
www.amazon.com/Cosrx-Galactomyces-Whitening-Power-Essence/dp/B00OZE57XW

[nursewife]

Nov 11, 2016 16:31:26 GMT -5 ijack said:

A couple options
ordinaries.com/product/rdn-niacinamide-10pct-zinc-1pct-30ml
ordinaries.com/product/rdn-hyaluronic-acid-2pct-b5-30ml
ordinaries.com/product/rdn-buffet-30ml
www.amazon.com/Ferulic-NuFountain-Vitamin-Youthful-Complexion/dp/B0039LZW78
www.amazon.com/Cosrx-Galactomyces-Whitening-Power-Essence/dp/B00OZE57XW

Would you use this in the am or pm? And what order would you put it in with my current regime? I feel so clueless about skin care!!

[ijack]

I do all my "extras" at night because I'm lazy. Though none of those have a long waiting time, aside from the vit C, so you could do them in the morning too.
Vitamin C goes on clean skin and you have to wait 20 minutes before you next product - I always do it at night.
My routine is like this
am -
wash
toner
essence
serum
moisturizer
sunscreen

pm -
double wash
vit C
toner
essence
serum
oil
moisturizer
sleep pack

BUT if you're happy with how your skin is now, you definitely don't need anything else. I'm trying to correct some issues, not just maintain so I feel like it's a little heavier. But niacinamide and vit C can help maintain beautiful skin - as do some of the other antioxidants.

[nursewife]

Nov 11, 2016 16:46:15 GMT -5 ijack said:

I do all my "extras" at night because I'm lazy. Though none of those have a long waiting time, aside from the vit C, so you could do them in the morning too.
Vitamin C goes on clean skin and you have to wait 20 minutes before you next product - I always do it at night.
My routine is like this
am -
wash
toner
essence
serum
moisturizer
sunscreen

pm -
double wash
vit C
toner
essence
serum
oil
moisturizer
sleep pack

BUT if you're happy with how your skin is now, you definitely don't need anything else. I'm trying to correct some issues, not just maintain so I feel like it's a little heavier. But niacinamide and vit C can help maintain beautiful skin - as do some of the other antioxidants.

Thanks so much for all the suggestions! There is no way I could have went through the other skin care thread without getting completely overwhelmed!

[namasteak]

ijack What do you use for vitamin c?

[nursewife]

Nov 11, 2016 21:09:25 GMT -5 namasteak said:

ijack What do you use for vitamin c?

Absolutely nothing right now, but have used the Ole H serum in the last. Where would I fit it into my current regime? 

[nursewife]

By the way I picked up a Peter Thomas Roth peel (firmx peel) at Costco today and it was pretty awesome! I'll definitely keep up using it. I love how smooth it's made my skin feel!

[bluestreet]

Nov 11, 2016 16:31:26 GMT -5 ijack said:

A couple options
ordinaries.com/product/rdn-niacinamide-10pct-zinc-1pct-30ml
ordinaries.com/product/rdn-hyaluronic-acid-2pct-b5-30ml
ordinaries.com/product/rdn-buffet-30ml
www.amazon.com/Ferulic-NuFountain-Vitamin-Youthful-Complexion/dp/B0039LZW78
www.amazon.com/Cosrx-Galactomyces-Whitening-Power-Essence/dp/B00OZE57XW

When would you use the last one--the Cosrx whitening power? Would that be considered an active? Can I use it along with retinoid or AHA? Or in alternation with?

Thanks for all your info!

[dcannie]

nursewife , where are all of your injections placed for migraine prevention?
i have been getting botox regularly for a few years now and i get the V above my brows and super minimal crows feet injections to help open up my eyes. my practitioner doesn't want to do the lines on my upper forehead because they really aren't there yet and i'm already dealing with very heavy lids so she doesn't want to counteract the lift i get from the current placement.

i think the placement i have seen for migraines includes that upper portion of the forehead and i've also seen some in the hairline and neck/back of the head.

eta:meant to say i have noticed no migraine prevention benefits with current botox placement. i feel like i get more cluster headaches, but who knows if it's even correlated. 

[nursewife]

Nov 12, 2016 9:51:49 GMT -5 dcannie said:

nursewife , where are all of your injections placed for migraine prevention?
i have been getting botox regularly for a few years now and i get the V above my brows and super minimal crows feet injections to help open up my eyes. my practitioner doesn't want to do the lines on my upper forehead because they really aren't there yet and i'm already dealing with very heavy lids so she doesn't want to counteract the lift i get from the current placement.

i think the placement i have seen for migraines includes that upper portion of the forehead and i've also seen some in the hairline and neck/back of the head.

eta:meant to say i have noticed no migraine prevention benefits with current botox placement. i feel like i get more cluster headaches, but who knows if it's even correlated. 

She does the temples, mid forehead, between eye brows, then different spots on the head. If you google botox for migraines, you should be able to find a diagram of where the injections go. The next part of my course is on Botox and injectables. If I get a good diagram I'll let you know! The Botox works awesome for migraines. I swear it's like a miracle drug for me!

[wawa]

Nov 12, 2016 9:13:00 GMT -5 bluestreet said:

Nov 11, 2016 16:31:26 GMT -5 ijack said:

A couple options
ordinaries.com/product/rdn-niacinamide-10pct-zinc-1pct-30ml
ordinaries.com/product/rdn-hyaluronic-acid-2pct-b5-30ml
ordinaries.com/product/rdn-buffet-30ml
www.amazon.com/Ferulic-NuFountain-Vitamin-Youthfxul-Complexion/dp/B0039LZW78
www.amazon.com/Cosrx-Galactomyces-Whitening-Power-Essence/dp/B00OZE57XW

When would you use the last one--the Cosrx whitening power? Would that be considered an active? Can I use it along with retinoid or AHA? Or in alternation with?

Thanks for all your info!

I use that one in the morning as a first essence type thing. As far as I know it is fine to mix with actives, thiugh I don't since I use my AHA and BHA in the PM. I feel like it made a noticible difference in my skin tone after a few weeks. I feel glowy.

[wawa]

Oh, I lie, it's got niacinimide. So don't mix witg Vit C.

[ijack]

Nov 12, 2016 9:13:00 GMT -5 bluestreet said:

Nov 11, 2016 16:31:26 GMT -5 ijack said:

A couple options
ordinaries.com/product/rdn-niacinamide-10pct-zinc-1pct-30ml
ordinaries.com/product/rdn-hyaluronic-acid-2pct-b5-30ml
ordinaries.com/product/rdn-buffet-30ml
www.amazon.com/Ferulic-NuFountain-Vitamin-Youthful-Complexion/dp/B0039LZW78
www.amazon.com/Cosrx-Galactomyces-Whitening-Power-Essence/dp/B00OZE57XW

When would you use the last one--the Cosrx whitening power? Would that be considered an active? Can I use it along with retinoid or AHA? Or in alternation with?

Thanks for all your info!

No, not an active. You can put it on at any time (toward the beginning of the routine since it's really thin)

[ijack]

Nov 11, 2016 21:09:25 GMT -5 namasteak said:

ijack What do you use for vitamin c?

The nufountain that I linked above. It's fine. I think I'll try the ordinary next.