Updated Subject: Recount 2016

[funfetti]

Is anybody tracking the Wisconsin vote audit? Only one county has posted it's corrected numbers. HRC has gained zero additional votes but Trump's total decreased. More votes were counted for President than cast on election night. 
Granted, it could be an anomaly for one county but it'll be interesting to see how the rest of the state lands. 

There's a movement on Twitter asking people to call other battleground states to urge a vote audit. 

Admittedly, I'm trying REALLY hard to not get my hopes up. 

[ringstrue]

How are you tracking it?

[pitta12]

I've seen some of that on Twitter but then I saw this on Snopes that looks like it was just early unofficial counts that were wrong, at least for one county. I'd like to get my tinfoil hat back on, but I'm not convinced yet that there's anything here.

www.snopes.com/audit-the-vote/

[katietornado]

I cannot handle this.

[eclaires]

Jesus. On the one hand please god save us. On the other hand I'm not sure this country can handle a contested election without violence.

But she'd also need PA too though right? MI and WI aren't enough?

[luckyval]

I don't want to get my hopes up, but...

nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/activists-urge-hillary-clinton-to-challenge-election-results.html

[whiskeytails]

Myself and my co-worker (different town) saw strange numbers the morning of the election. We were there when the polls were open and over 200 votes counted. Supposedly they were absentee when we asked?

[luckyval]

I really would be suprised if her legal team wasn't considering this given Russia's involvement.

But the backlash would be unthinkable.

[katietornado]

Nov 22, 2016 19:20:20 GMT -5 eclaires said:

Jesus. On the one hand please god save us. On the other hand I'm not sure this country can handle a contested election without violence.

But she'd also need PA too though right? MI and WI aren't enough?

MI and WI get her to 258.

[cookies]

I was just coming here to post the NY Mag article. Save us, Hillary. Seriously. I don't care about peaceful transition of power if he didn't legitimately win!!!

[silva]

Nov 22, 2016 19:20:42 GMT -5 luckyval said:

I don't want to get my hopes up, but...

nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/activists-urge-hillary-clinton-to-challenge-election-results.html

well...then.  Walker winning three times....hello!!

I can't take this.

[JLV]

I don't think she will ask for them to be audited. She's been through enough.

[leeba25]

What the fuck man.

[pitta12]

Nov 22, 2016 19:22:44 GMT -5 whiskeytails said:

Myself and my co-worker (different town) saw strange numbers the morning of the election. We were there when the polls were open and over 200 votes counted. Supposedly they were absentee when we asked?

One of the tin foil hat theories is that if there was hacking it was likely to the voter registration rolls, with extra absentee ballots requested.  And there were way more absentee ballots in swing states than usual.

[cookies]

Why does she have to be the one to call for the audit? I feel like, given the evidence, this should be initiated by the govt somehow.

[thecatinthehat]

I think the damage from 4yrs of Trump (or 50yrs of Bannon) will be worth it! Why would the govt block this?! Save us Hillary!

[katietornado]

Nate Silver is arguing on Twitter that this is a waste of time.

[cookies]

Nov 22, 2016 19:57:44 GMT -5 katietornado said:

Nate Silver is arguing on Twitter that this is a waste of time.

Shut it, Nate.

[One Girl In All The World]

Nov 22, 2016 19:57:44 GMT -5 katietornado said:

Nate Silver is arguing on Twitter that this is a waste of time.

I hope he's as right about that as he was about the election two weeks ago.

[saz]

I'm torn between thinking this is a waste of time, thinking it's legit but the country would become even more terrifying if the winner switched at this point, and hoping this pans out.

[chickadee77]

Look. I agree with the idea that her contesting this shit is probably messy as hell, considering she said she wouldn't, "we go high," etc.

But also, just. Look. Dems need to start fucking standing up for them(our)selves with this shit. The Republicans wouldn't let this fly. Nowaynohow. The Democrats have been too goddamn nice for too goddamn long.

So if there's a question, it needs to be called. Whether by Clinton, or whoever.

But I'm also terrified of the repercussions (either way - a Trump Presidency [just, fuck] or a Clinton Presidency that was contested, with Congress as R, so nothing happens and some bigger alt-R wingnut asshole is elected in 4 years) . BUT. Again, the R's wouldn't be upset one bit, so part of me is like, look, what's right is right.

I can't believe this is real life.

[eclaires]

I do think the Ds need to play hardball across the board. Look she won the popular vote. And it was insanely close in the EC.

The Ds need to start acting like that's the case and stop being all wahhhh rural white people wahhhhh.

[penguingrrl]

I see no reason it shouldn't be investigated. Why the fuck should we let the person who lost become our president? The Republican Party would leave no stone unturned in this situation, why should the democrats sit and takenit and let the usurper take power? He's not even a Republican, he's a Nazi.

[Jalapeñomel]

The country would probably crumble if HRC called for an audit, let alone actually won the election.

[curbsideprophet]

If that other article about audits was even half way correct audits could and should be done without too much difficulty.

[cookies]

Yep. Shit's going to be bad either way. But if it turns out some fuckers stole this election from her and her right to have her moment of glass shaped confetti falling down from the Javitz center, we need to know. The vote must be audited.

[eb777888]

Nov 22, 2016 20:11:52 GMT -5 One Girl In All The World said:

Nov 22, 2016 19:57:44 GMT -5 katietornado said:

Nate Silver is arguing on Twitter that this is a waste of time.

I hope he's as right about that as he was about the election two weeks ago.

I know it's not Nate's fault but I keep remembering a headline I read on 538 that was something like "Trump has a better chance of becoming president than the Cubs have of winning the World Series..." Statistically, weird year.

[Jalapeñomel]

Nov 22, 2016 20:29:35 GMT -5 eclaires said:

I do think the Ds need to play hardball across the board. Look she won the popular vote. And it was insanely close in the EC.

The Ds need to start acting like that's the case and stop being all wahhhh rural white people wahhhhh.

I feel like they've learned nothing from this fucking disaster.

[anodyne]

Does HRC have to ask personally, or can the DNC or Just Dept (for example) ask for it?
ETA
Just saw this

[RoxMonster]

Yeah this isn't the time to play nice. And honestly, I don't even consider this "going low" or being mean. If there is evidence out there that this might possibly have been fucked with and the person who lost is going to be POTUS, it's the right thing to do to call for an audit.