WWYD salon experience

[RoxMonster]

What? How are you surprised this is the reaction your posts have gotten? You think it's OK to support and be friends with a racist because you donate to Planned Parenthood afterward?

[miniroller]

She legitimately did think we'd cheer her on for "fighting the good fight" guys

[05heel]

Dec 17, 2016 17:54:38 GMT -5 @natariru said:

I'm legit chuckling at throwing shade at highlights. Racists friends? No problem. Highlights? HOW DARE YOU.

how much do you want to bet that homegirl's hair isn't even cute? Lol. Over here showing out for no good reason.

WHITE FUCKING NONSENSE

[laurenpetro]

Look: I can't change where I live. I can't change the fact that I live in a red town. I can't change the fact that my friends and neighbors voted for Trump. My options are to cut myself off from everyone here and accomplish absolutely nothing or I can work to change them. If someone has an option 3 please feel free to put it out there.

[laurenpetro]

Dec 17, 2016 18:00:24 GMT -5 miniroller said:

She legitimately did think we'd cheer her on for "fighting the good fight" guys

Yes. That's exactly what I thought. You're so smart.

[05heel]

Dec 17, 2016 18:04:46 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

Look: I can't change where I live. I can't change the fact that I live in a red town. I can't change the fact that my friends and neighbors voted for Trump. My options are to cut myself off from everyone here and accomplish absolutely nothing or I can work to change them. If someone has an option 3 please feel free to put it out there.

is this the part where we're supposed to thank you?

[laurenpetro]

Dec 17, 2016 18:07:40 GMT -5 05heel said:

Dec 17, 2016 18:04:46 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

Look: I can't change where I live. I can't change the fact that I live in a red town. I can't change the fact that my friends and neighbors voted for Trump. My options are to cut myself off from everyone here and accomplish absolutely nothing or I can work to change them. If someone has an option 3 please feel free to put it out there.

is this the part where we're supposed to thank you?

Do you have an option 3 for me? I'm guessing you don't.

[05heel]

Dec 17, 2016 18:08:32 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

Dec 17, 2016 18:07:40 GMT -5 05heel said:

is this the part where we're supposed to thank you?

Do you have an option 3 for me?

I have a lot of suggestions for you. But you're grown and apparently doing what you want, so you just keep right the hell on. You have to know that I couldn't care less about you and the racists you hold dear.

Option 3. Bitch, please. Only one of us is that simple, and it sure isn't me.

[laurenpetro]

Dec 17, 2016 18:10:51 GMT -5 05heel said:

Dec 17, 2016 18:08:32 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

Do you have an option 3 for me?

I have a lot of suggestions for you. But you're grown and apparently doing what you want, so you just keep right the hell on. You have to know that I couldn't care less about you and the racists you hold dear.

Option 3. Bitch, please. Only one of us is that simple, and it sure isn't me.

Ok then.

[05heel]

Dec 17, 2016 18:12:06 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

Dec 17, 2016 18:10:51 GMT -5 05heel said:

I have a lot of suggestions for you. But you're grown and apparently doing what you want, so you just keep right the hell on. You have to know that I couldn't care less about you and the racists you hold dear.

Option 3. Bitch, please. Only one of us is that simple, and it sure isn't me.

Ok then.

stay mad though!

[thejen626]

I live in a rural area of a blue state. Immediately after the election, I organized a meeting with about 40 women that live in my area, with speakers from Planned Parenthood and Moms Demand Action. We're going to make it a quarterly event to discuss where we can volunteer, who needs our donations the most, etc.

That's something you can do.

[cville]

Dec 17, 2016 18:04:46 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

Look: I can't change where I live. I can't change the fact that I live in a red town. I can't change the fact that my friends and neighbors voted for Trump. My options are to cut myself off from everyone here and accomplish absolutely nothing or I can work to change them. If someone has an option 3 please feel free to put it out there.

Sure.  But working to change people's racist views does not necessarily entail paying them for the privilege of being engulfed by their bigotry.  While they wield scissors near your face.

There are people in my family who are racist.  I maintain an open dialogue with the ones (the very, very few--like 2) with whom I think there is half a chance of changing their views.  But I don't pay them for it.  Hell, I don't even pay to travel to them.  

[05heel]

Dec 17, 2016 18:19:30 GMT -5 cville said:

Dec 17, 2016 18:04:46 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

Look: I can't change where I live. I can't change the fact that I live in a red town. I can't change the fact that my friends and neighbors voted for Trump. My options are to cut myself off from everyone here and accomplish absolutely nothing or I can work to change them. If someone has an option 3 please feel free to put it out there.

Sure.  But working to change people's racist views does not necessarily entail paying them for the privilege of being engulfed by their bigotry.  While they wield scissors near your face.

There are people in my family who are racist.  I maintain an open dialogue with the ones (the very, very few--like 2) with whom I think there is half a chance of changing their views.  But I don't pay them for it.  Hell, I don't even pay to travel to them.  

sorry, she only deals in extremes. This perfectly reasonable option will never do.

[laurenpetro]

Dec 17, 2016 18:14:27 GMT -5 thejen626 said:

I live in a rural area of a blue state. Immediately after the election, I organized a meeting with about 40 women that live in my area, with speakers from Planned Parenthood and Moms Demand Action. We're going to make it a quarterly event to discuss where we can volunteer, who needs our donations the most, etc.

That's something you can do.

I already work with our Dem club. I've recruited many new members, I donate to local and national organizations.

This is one of the worst parts of living here. But until my son is 21 and we're out from under this house we're staying where we are.

[laurenpetro]

Dec 17, 2016 18:19:30 GMT -5 cville said:

Dec 17, 2016 18:04:46 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

Look: I can't change where I live. I can't change the fact that I live in a red town. I can't change the fact that my friends and neighbors voted for Trump. My options are to cut myself off from everyone here and accomplish absolutely nothing or I can work to change them. If someone has an option 3 please feel free to put it out there.

Sure.  But working to change people's racist views does not necessarily entail paying them for the privilege of being engulfed by their bigotry.  While they wield scissors near your face.

There are people in my family who are racist.  I maintain an open dialogue with the ones (the very, very few--like 2) with whom I think there is half a chance of changing their views.  But I don't pay them for it.  Hell, I don't even pay to travel to them.  

This particular person is a crazy gun rights advocate (something I didn't know until recently) and an evangelical Christian. Judging by the mutual friends we have it extremely presumptive to assume she's a racist. That's something other people in this thread have said, not me.

[JLV]

Dec 17, 2016 18:28:27 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

Dec 17, 2016 18:19:30 GMT -5 cville said:

Sure.  But working to change people's racist views does not necessarily entail paying them for the privilege of being engulfed by their bigotry.  While they wield scissors near your face.

There are people in my family who are racist.  I maintain an open dialogue with the ones (the very, very few--like 2) with whom I think there is half a chance of changing their views.  But I don't pay them for it.  Hell, I don't even pay to travel to them.  

This particular person is a crazy gun rights advocate (something I didn't know until recently) and an evangelical Christian. Judging by the mutual friends we have it extremely presumptive to assume she's a racist. That's something other people in this thread have said, not me.

Have we not had this conversation many times? That Trump voters are racist or so complacent with racism that they can overlook it and vote for him?

[laurenpetro]

Dec 17, 2016 18:30:50 GMT -5 @246baje said:

Dec 17, 2016 18:28:27 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

This particular person is a crazy gun rights advocate (something I didn't know until recently) and an evangelical Christian. Judging by the mutual friends we have it extremely presumptive to assume she's a racist. That's something other people in this thread have said, not me.

Give me a non-racist reason someone would have for voting for someone who has said as many racist things as Trump has said.

And a true Christian would be really horrified by a pussy grabbing president.

I didn't say she's a true Christian, I said she's an evangelical Christian, which I'm pretty sure is a group that went like 85% for DT.

She believed the bullshit that HRC was going to take her guns. She also wanted a businessman to run the country because she hates the ACA.

[05heel]

Dec 17, 2016 18:30:50 GMT -5 @246baje said:

Dec 17, 2016 18:28:27 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

This particular person is a crazy gun rights advocate (something I didn't know until recently) and an evangelical Christian. Judging by the mutual friends we have it extremely presumptive to assume she's a racist. That's something other people in this thread have said, not me.

Give me a non-racist reason someone would have for voting for someone who has said as many racist things as Trump has said.

And a true Christian would be really horrified by a pussy grabbing president.

it's almost as if we've never discussed this before...

But no, this clown thinks we need to come correct to her without assuming, and with a list of "options" for her to choose from.

Unbelievable.

[bohemianmango]

Dec 17, 2016 18:24:03 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

Dec 17, 2016 18:14:27 GMT -5 thejen626 said:

I live in a rural area of a blue state. Immediately after the election, I organized a meeting with about 40 women that live in my area, with speakers from Planned Parenthood and Moms Demand Action. We're going to make it a quarterly event to discuss where we can volunteer, who needs our donations the most, etc.

That's something you can do.

I already work with our Dem club. I've recruited many new members, I donate to local and national organizations.

This is one of the worst parts of living here. But until my son is 21 and we're out from under this house we're staying where we are.

Option 3, go to your friends at the Dem club and ask for stylist recs. You might find also that the club members are people you can hang out with instead of your stylist and other friends.

[meganew]

Dec 17, 2016 18:28:27 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

Dec 17, 2016 18:19:30 GMT -5 cville said:

Sure.  But working to change people's racist views does not necessarily entail paying them for the privilege of being engulfed by their bigotry.  While they wield scissors near your face.

There are people in my family who are racist.  I maintain an open dialogue with the ones (the very, very few--like 2) with whom I think there is half a chance of changing their views.  But I don't pay them for it.  Hell, I don't even pay to travel to them.  

This particular person is a crazy gun rights advocate (something I didn't know until recently) and an evangelical Christian. Judging by the mutual friends we have it extremely presumptive to assume she's a racist. That's something other people in this thread have said, not me.

"Raging Trump supporter" kinda speaks for itself

[meganew]

Dec 17, 2016 18:37:17 GMT -5 bohemianmango said:

Dec 17, 2016 18:24:03 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

I already work with our Dem club. I've recruited many new members, I donate to local and national organizations.

This is one of the worst parts of living here. But until my son is 21 and we're out from under this house we're staying where we are.

Option 3, go to your friends at the Dem club and ask for stylist recs. You might find also that the club members are people you can hang out with instead of your stylist and other friends.

Nope, she has NO CHOICE guys. And finding a salon and other small businesses run by people who don't support racism/misogyny/islamaphobia is like, really time consuming.

[kicks]

Dec 17, 2016 18:02:35 GMT -5 05heel said:

Dec 17, 2016 17:54:38 GMT -5 @natariru said:

I'm legit chuckling at throwing shade at highlights. Racists friends? No problem. Highlights? HOW DARE YOU.

how much do you want to bet that homegirl's hair isn't even cute? Lol. Over here showing out for no good reason.

WHITE FUCKING NONSENSE

OMG 

[laurenpetro]

Dec 17, 2016 18:37:17 GMT -5 bohemianmango said:

Dec 17, 2016 18:24:03 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

I already work with our Dem club. I've recruited many new members, I donate to local and national organizations.

This is one of the worst parts of living here. But until my son is 21 and we're out from under this house we're staying where we are.

Option 3, go to your friends at the Dem club and ask for stylist recs. You might find also that the club members are people you can hang out with instead of your stylist and other friends.

The current president of the club goes to my stylist and 2 of the members work at the salon. So no. Welcome to farm town life.

I'd also like to say that you all (not the specific poster I'm replying to, a general you) really went off on a tangent of assumptions in this thread. I said I'm friends with my stylist and all of a sudden it's like I'm having weekly dinner with her and shopping on the weekends.

I am friends with people in the dem club. We hang out much more often than I do with my stylist. But there are many, many people there that did vote for him. It's not logistically possible for me to cut all of them out of my life.

[bugandbibs]

I'm so fucking sick of white people saying that because they live in a red area they HAVE to be friends with racists. Like hell you do. You choose easy and comfortable instead of looking at the hard truth. Guess what, you're racist too! Otherwise you wouldn't be able to overlook it.

[laurenpetro]

Dec 17, 2016 18:58:42 GMT -5 @barefootbarista said:

Dec 17, 2016 18:50:11 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

The current president of the club goes to my stylist and 2 of the members work at the salon. So no. Welcome to farm town life.

I'd also like to say that you all (not the specific poster I'm replying to, a general you) really went off on a tangent of assumptions in this thread. I said I'm friends with my stylist and all of a sudden it's like I'm having weekly dinner with her and shopping on the weekends.

I am friends with people in the dem club. We hang out much more often than I do with my stylist. But there are many, many people there that did vote for him. It's not logistically possible for me to cut all of them out of my life.

Girl, bye. 
Im trying to find where people implied that you have weekly dinner. You know enough to know her core beliefs, and you staunchly defended your friendship. 
So keep paying the racist to do your hair, no fucks will be given.  
Congratulations, you played yourself.

I know her beliefs because we debate on FB. Which is how she knows mine.

[highbythebeach]

Dec 17, 2016 18:50:11 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

Dec 17, 2016 18:37:17 GMT -5 bohemianmango said:

Option 3, go to your friends at the Dem club and ask for stylist recs. You might find also that the club members are people you can hang out with instead of your stylist and other friends.

The current president of the club goes to my stylist and 2 of the members work at the salon. So no. Welcome to farm town life.

I'd also like to say that you all (not the specific poster I'm replying to, a general you) really went off on a tangent of assumptions in this thread. I said I'm friends with my stylist and all of a sudden it's like I'm having weekly dinner with her and shopping on the weekends.

I am friends with people in the dem club. We hang out much more often than I do with my stylist. But there are many, many people there that did vote for him. It's not logistically possible for me to cut all of them out of my life.

So why not switch stylists to one of the friends from your Dem club? You wouldn't even have to drive out of your way to find someone new. 

[laurenpetro]

Dec 17, 2016 19:24:16 GMT -5 highbythebeach said:

Dec 17, 2016 18:50:11 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

The current president of the club goes to my stylist and 2 of the members work at the salon. So no. Welcome to farm town life.

I'd also like to say that you all (not the specific poster I'm replying to, a general you) really went off on a tangent of assumptions in this thread. I said I'm friends with my stylist and all of a sudden it's like I'm having weekly dinner with her and shopping on the weekends.

I am friends with people in the dem club. We hang out much more often than I do with my stylist. But there are many, many people there that did vote for him. It's not logistically possible for me to cut all of them out of my life.

So why not switch stylists to one of the friends from your Dem club? You wouldn't even have to drive out of your way to find someone new. 

It's kind of a complicated story but changing stylists at this particular salon doesn't change their income. I know that most salons rent chairs but this one's landlord doesn't allow subletting so changing stylists doesn't change their income, kwim? I've also talked to them about this and they don't take each other's clients as a general rule so as not to cause tensions.

[Dig Ophelia]

Sweet fucking hell, this again?!

Justify it all you want, but anyone who voted for Trump, also voted for racism and bigotry.  

Who you choose to surround yourself with is a reflection of who you are.  

If you tolerate a person who tolerates racism and bigotry, then you tolerate racism and bigotry.  


For fucks sake, can we get off this merry-go-round of foolishness?  

[pugz]

Round and round it goes

[tacokick]

Dec 17, 2016 19:33:07 GMT -5 laurenpetro said:

Dec 17, 2016 19:24:16 GMT -5 highbythebeach said:

So why not switch stylists to one of the friends from your Dem club? You wouldn't even have to drive out of your way to find someone new. 

It's kind of a complicated story but changing stylists at this particular salon doesn't change their income. I know that most salons rent chairs but this one's landlord doesn't allow subletting so changing stylists doesn't change their income, kwim? I've also talked to them about this and they don't take each other's clients as a general rule so as not to cause tensions.

There is no salon anywhere within driving distance you can go to? Surely in "farm country" you are used to driving far to get services and goods. And since you scorn highlights I'm sure you are only going 4x year tops.

I almost dumped my hair dresser who I love because she was a Bernie fan. Luckily, she switched and publicly supported Hilary at the election. I wouldn't want to go to a third party voter much less a Trump lover.