@/TW: Jamie Lynn Spears' Daughter

[debatethis]

Is in critical condition after she flipped on an ATV and was under water for "several minutes".

Absolutely horrifying.


www.usatoday.com/story/life/nation-now/2017/02/06/report-jamie-lynn-spears-daughter-atv-accident/97538404/

[jeaniebueller]

I couldn't get to that link, here is another:

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jamie-lynn-spears-8-year-old-daughter-in-reportedly-critical-condition-after-accident_us_589846e7e4b09bd304bc270a

ATVs are really unsafe and a huge flipping hazard. Those Razr style ATVs are much safe since they have roll bars. I hope she is okay.

[debatethis]

Feb 6, 2017 10:47:51 GMT -5 jeaniebueller said:

I couldn't get to that link, here is another:

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jamie-lynn-spears-8-year-old-daughter-in-reportedly-critical-condition-after-accident_us_589846e7e4b09bd304bc270a

ATVs are really unsafe and a huge flipping hazard. Those Razr style ATVs are much safe since they have roll bars. I hope she is okay.

My BFF in high school lost her nephew to an ATV flip, too. My mom was the med-evac nurse on scene and it really shook her and of course BFF's family to their cores. DS will never ride one. 

[rondonalddo]

How awful :-(

I follow our local conservation office on fb, and they update with ATV accidents all the time. My husband grew up riding 4-wheelers in the woods as a kid, and I didn't even realize how dangerous these are until recently.

[elleblue]

Awful. I hope she's okay.

[CheeringCharm]

She was underwater for several minutes? She must have been so frightened I hope she will be ok.

[mmmomof2]

I used to work for a major manufacturer of ATVs and had to read the details of the lawsuits included in the liability reserves. Some of the details are still with me. No kid of mine will ever ride one. Hope this little girl is OK.

[mryrcn]

I hope she's okay. A friend in high school was killed while riding a 3 wheeler.

[tamarindy]

I grew up in the midwest and everyone rode ATVs. My friend from high school was paralyzed by one. It was almost a regular occurrence to hear that someone around town had been injured or was killed.

So sad for her and hoping that she pulls through. :-(

[amberlyrose]

I hope she's okay My cousin flipped his ATV the summer of our senior year. I was the first person in his phone and the person who found him helped him to call me. Thankfully, he only broke his clavicle, but he was pinned under it for awhile before someone else out riding found him. One of the scariest calls I've ever had to answer.

[Deleted]

That doesn't sound good. I hope she will be okay.

[Deleted]

So many people named Jamie in that article. Jamie Lynn, her H, their friend, and her dad. It's confusing.

I hope she is ok I don't think I'd ever want to ride an ATV or have a family member do that. You hear of so many things like this happening. Are there many safety regulations on them? It seems like an area that could be addressed to prevent stuff like this from happening.

[cattledogkisses]

I hope she's ok.

My boyfriend in high school broke his back, knee, and ankle in a four-wheeler accident. I think many people don't realize how dangerous they are.

[JLV]

I really hope she is OK. What a terrible accident.

[mbcdefg]

I saw that on Yahoo earlier. How frightening for everyone - I hope she'll be all right. 

I'm a city kid so ATVs aren't familiar to me at all. We went to visit some in-laws in rural NY State at their cabin a few years ago. As soon as we pulled up to the cabin there was a huge commotion because one of their other guests had just flipped his ATV and injured himself and had to be rushed to the hospital by the people were actually there to visit ... so we were stuck in the house with a bunch of elderly Italian ladies (we had never met them before) who were sobbing hysterically the entire time. Then a phone call came that he had to be rushed to a larger hospital and there was more wailing. Awkward. (He wound up being OK.)

[mdgirl]

Feb 6, 2017 11:15:56 GMT -5 @buckybells said:

I hope she is ok I don't think I'd ever want to ride an ATV or have a family member do that. You hear of so many things like this happening. Are there many safety regulations on them? It seems like an area that could be addressed to prevent stuff like this from happening.

I'm not really sure what you could do--they're just inherently dangerous machines. Even if there were good laws, due to where they're usually ridden (remote often private property) they'd be next to impossible to enforce. 

[pinkeggs]

I hope she's OK. What a nightmare.

[candreco]

One of my sister's classmates was severely injured in an ATV roll over their senior year high school. He was still in a coma at graduation, and I'm honestly not sure if he ever came out of it and recovered. His parents' faces when they accepted his diploma for him were just absolutely heartbreaking.

[penguingrrl]

I hope she's okay. That's absolutely awful.

[ufcasey]

My nephew's friend died last year in an atv flip, she was six years old. Heartbreaking. I hope Maddie will be ok.

[estrellita]

Hope she will be OK! Also how is her daughter that old already??

[cattledogkisses]

Re: regulations, I think it would be perfectly reasonable to set an age limit for riding ATVS/four wheelers. That's not to say that they're safe for adults, because they're not, but at least an adult (presumably) knows the risks associated with riding and is choosing to make that decision for themselves.

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Feb 6, 2017 11:15:56 GMT -5 @buckybells said:

So many people named Jamie in that article. Jamie Lynn, her H, their friend, and her dad. It's confusing.

I hope she is ok I don't think I'd ever want to ride an ATV or have a family member do that. You hear of so many things like this happening. Are there many safety regulations on them? It seems like an area that could be addressed to prevent stuff like this from happening.

There are a lot of safey regulations of them. But...they are dangerous by nature. The most common type of ATV is top heavy and people use them to navigate trails without regard to the ability of the machine, combine that with speed and failure to wear safety equipment and it's a recipe for disaster.

Some of the newer models have a pretty low center of gravity and it allows for a roll cage and a five point harness. That's the only kind we use and we also wear helmets, but it still takes a good amount of common sense. There's no way I'd let a child drive one. I see people do it at all the time though- harness off, no helmets, too much speed, etc.

[anlo]

I hope she's okay.

[karinothing]

Feb 6, 2017 10:44:11 GMT -5 @majorwife said:

and DH thinks im nuts for not letting the kids ride these

Totally not nuts. I rode a bit when I was younger but I know of 2 children that died in ATV accidents and one adult that had their feet amputated. They are dangerous and folks ride them recklessly.

[earlgreyhot]

Shit.

My brother's have these and we took the kids for rides on them over the holidays. I'm always pretty nervous about these things, but I do trust my DH to ride super slow and cautious. But this makes me second-guess.

However, my SIL took her 18-month old on it and was riding around crazy fast...I was shocked.

These relatives, of course, are all pro-immigration bans so don't even get me started on misplaced risk assessments.

[pinkeggs]

Man, I knew they were dangerous but I didn't realize how common serious injuries and deaths are with them. that's so sad

[Velar Fricative]

Awful. I hope she recovers.

[thejackpot]

So terrible. I hope she will be ok.

[tillie]

Poor thing - I hope she is okay.

DH and his friends went ATVing a couple of weeks ago in the AZ desert. One of his friends flipped his and was knocked unconscious. Luckily he was wearing a helmet and was able to walk away from it after a few minutes. I've been quite a few times and it is fun, but I don't know if I'd be comfortable with kids under 12 or so riding them.