It depends on if my foreign BS in Engineering counts as a "foreign bachelor's" or as a "foreign professional degree in engineering". It's enough to qualify for EIT programs in multiple countries, so I would consider it a professional degree, but there is insufficient clarity on it.
Lol no. For either of us. I have 2 stem degrees with professional licensure, but only at the bs level. In demand job depending on location, but not $.
H is also a no, and he's a military officer with a masters and advanced training(s). US govt has probably invested over a million in his training and education. Easy. Not good enough to immigrate!
I read this option "U.S. professional degree or doctorate in science, technology, engineering, or mathematics" to mean either a professional degree (i.e. JD/MBA) OR a doctorate in STEM.
In any event, even if I select bachelors degree instead of that option, i still can come in. Yay?
Yes, but just barely (31), since I have a professional degree from a US institution (that's how I'm viewing my Master's in counseling psychology). If that doesn't count as a professional degree, then I'm screwed.
I read this option "U.S. professional degree or doctorate in science, technology, engineering, or mathematics" to mean either a professional degree (i.e. JD/MBA) OR a doctorate in STEM.
In any event, even if I select bachelors degree instead of that option, i still can come in. Yay?
This is how I read it as well. Otherwise it would be redundant. The only professional degrees in STEM are doctorate degrees (MD, DO, PharmD, DDS, DMD). Although, a Wikipedia sentence with 6 citations is telling me that U.S. professional degrees are not considered doctoral level internationally, sooo, maybe it's not redundant?
Either way, I'm in! Woohoo!
Also, this is stupid policy. Immigration makes us stronger.
By 1 point, and by 0 points next month when I hit the next age bracket.
It actually really sucks because I work for a company with offices all over the world and we can't even recruit certain candidates because it's hard to get work visas and we have some other offices that are slow while we are really busy but the people there can't even come to the US for a couple weeks to help us.
Post by goldengirlz on Aug 8, 2017 21:47:34 GMT -5
Yes.
But my friend who's been waiting for a green card wouldn't. She's been waiting so long and has gone through so many hoops already. So many good, deserving people would be in limbo.
Nope. Too old and don't make enough money. Neither would my sister or our parents. At this point, my BIL would qualify, by virtue of his income. But his first language is Arabic, so that may disqualify him. Good thing he is already a citizen.
I'm so glad I was born here because I'd be screwed on almost every level. DH gets in based on education and income. 31 if we say his highest degree is a bachelors, because lawyers don't count as real professionals.
I got 39. At the time I finished grad school I would have gotten 41 based on my age.
That said I do think some of you are getting caught up on the wrong things. The difference with Trump's immigration plan is that it chops off the people who can qualify as family for immigration purposes.
This portion of the plan seems to be a modification of the employment based system and if it were just this piece without the elimination of certain family members, it would be fine.
This piece actually is easier and more transparent than the current method of getting an employment based visa.
Under the current plan people with degrees that there are an abundance of in the US - like JDs are not eligible. You have to have a job and you have to advertise the job in a number of public venues and all people who meet the minimum criteria MUST be interviewed. Further, those Americans who qualify for MINIMUM requirements after interviewing must be given a job or the petition to hire an immigrant must be abandoned. At the time of my application I had a PhD and 6 years industry experience. My job was advertised as requiring an MS with 3 years of experience. Had the market been then, as it is now in my industry, I would not be in this country.
There are many other pieces of this plan that are clearer than currently exists. It is also very easy if you have a job in a high demand field. I have a stem PhD and it took 2 + years for me to complete the entire green card approval process and receive a green card in hand. A friend who is an oncology nurse had hers in hand in under 6 months.
Folks with Noble Prizes or are very high specialty and in demand currently have their own employment category. I think those with Olympic medals qualify under this or another category.
All that to say, I think the focus on this piece of the "fix" is misguided.
This is a red herring from all angles because it doesn't replace that family based immigration category, it's a fix for another piece of the immigration issue. On the right it's a sop to their base who think all these low skilled workers are stealing their jobs. On the left you should focus on the fact that entire categories were lopped off family based immigration. This thing that is being discussed is just simplification and honestly more transparent than the current EB visa process and it's a distraction from the actual problem with the plan.
There is also the rich folks visa that currently exists where if you invest like $500k and hire 10 people TADA! Green card!
Thank you. It also does nothing about/for all the Indians who have been waiting for their green cards since the mid 2000s because of huge back logs. I'm all for eliminating the diversity lottery visa, though I know people who have benefited from it and are now doing well here. It just doesn't make sense anymore. Ideally what I'd prefer is a system where the applicant can apply for themselves rather than be at the mercy of their employer.
Post by katieinthecity on Aug 9, 2017 7:04:33 GMT -5
I qualify by one point now, but after my birthday in October I'll be SOL. My masters degree (in public policy) is apparently useless. Though heaven knows 45 could use someone who understands policy.
@246baje , you have been through the process so I am going to defer to you. However, we frequently sponsor people so may I sit here and complain about the hiring managers who wanted a FUCKING guarantee someone was going to get a H1B? ^o)