Wednesday vents - because it seems too late to add to Monday

[mae0111]

akafred, I'm sorry to hear this. I hope it works out better than you expect.

k3am, that sucks about your client, but I'm glad you had a little notice. Maybe there's something you can do to win them back?

2chatter, it's a really good thing to know that you couldn't do the 8-6 plus commute. You deserve a lot of credit for knowing that. I fought against that for years, and it was disastrous for me. Every time DH traveled, I was cutting my day short, racing home, and rushing the kids to bed to get back to work or get on a conference call. I ran myself ragged, stressed myself out, and finally burnt out. I know it's tough, but embrace the 'easy' job for a little while if you can.

[k3am]

mae0111, sorry about the cracker eating going on in your life. Tell YH that your workouts are just as important as his. And that you want 2/week, not a measly one. (assuming YOU want more than 1!)

We're not winning them back. We had a lovely conversation where I'm pretty sure my boss burned some bridges. At least with the CFO. He also let her know that he would be discussing how things went down with the CEO, the investment bankers, and her BOD.

Key nuggets from the conversation: "I'm not saying this to make you feel worse than you already should based on your lack of ability to manage this process in a professional manner" may have been uttered several times. I would hate to be his kid. Oh and "you have nothing to worry about during the transition - we take pride in our ability to manage our business in a professional manner, so we'll make sure it goes smoothly for you. You should take notes."

[mae0111]

k3am, my mouth is hanging open. I kind of want to hug your boss. Because that's awesome.

[k3am]

mae0111, I have never seen him so angry before. He's angry on a personal level.

[mustardseed2007]

k3am, daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang. That's cold...


So this is small in comparison, but DS' birthday party is coming up and he really really wants a Phineas and Ferb party. Which, is very 5 years ago. Although you can still get a 9 dollar mylar balloon on Amazon. And spend 10 dollars on a pack of 8 cake plates.

I'm going to try to talk him into Pokemon tonight.

[traveltheworld]

k3am, wow. I like your boss' style.

[judyblume14]

This article has some really interesting interactive graphic. The subject matter is depressing, including this zinger:

"The median salary for women working full-time is about 80 percent of men’s. That gap, put in other terms, means women are working for free 10 weeks a year.So, if you’re a woman ...

... you started working for free 13 hours ago."

www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/business/women-pay-gap/?utm_term=.7771ef619826

[waverly]

I always wondered about this, if I am experiencing the same pay gap. The reason I am wondering is because I am in a female dominated profession, and I am a manager. I make more than 99% of any job postings that I see, and I really don't make that much comparatively speaking.

But the whole industry could be lower because it is a female dominated industry, but how do you compare industry to industry? I mean I definitely don't make as much as if I were in business, but the men in my profession don't either. But I am sure that we are overall paid less because we are social sciences/ education/ non-profit female dominated etc.

ETA- I did find my profession and men earn $2 more an hour, but they don't have managers on there, so I earn more than the man non-managers, but I don't know what the male managers make... And I can't tell by job postings. 

Not classified elsewhere, I make more than the women, but less than the men.  

[2chatter]

I’ve been working for free since October 14th.

I absolutely buy into this as I know the men I managed outearned me. They probably still do because I got them promoted. It’s discouraging.

[mae0111]

My former company just entered into a settlement with the DOL for underpaying female VPs and SVPs. The study named specific people, but it was redacted when released. So I'm waiting to see if I get a letter and a check. My odds are very good based on the timeframe. But it was only for a 2 year period, and I was underpaid for at least 15. Still, something would be better than nothing.

[twinmomma]

I probably make less than a man would, because I knowingly suck at negotiating and took a pay cut to come here. But for me, the benefits, perks, and overall mental health improvements were worth it. Although now, my raises are not getting me back up to an amazing place, they're just getting me level with where I was.

[judyblume14]

Oct 26, 2017 14:35:51 GMT -5 twinmomma said:

I probably make less than a man would, because I knowingly suck at negotiating and took a pay cut to come here. But for me, the benefits, perks, and overall mental health improvements were worth it. Although now, my raises are not getting me back up to an amazing place, they're just getting me level with where I was.

But that's the thing that sucks.  A man doing you job would have the same benefits and same perks... but a much heftier paycheck.  Even IF that man had the exact same negotiating skills.  

I think in the same way sometimes. I have a comfortable salary. A decent work/life balance. I'm challenged. I'm happy.
...but I'd be happier if i wasn't paid SEVENTEEN PERCENT LESS than my male counterparts.

[twinmomma]

judyblume14, Totally agree. And according to that chart, I started working for free on September 22nd. So that's just... gross.

[saraml13]

Reasons my 3 year old is crying:
He wanted veggies instead of meat on his taco, and Mommy didn't put enough peas on his tortilla.

[sandandsea]

Oct 25, 2017 17:05:49 GMT -5 traveltheworld said:

k3am, wow. I like your boss' style.

Seriously. I would love to pull those out sometime!!!