Do we really think public transportation will be a major factor? Tech bros tend to lean libertarian and hate public transit - see what has happened with Google and other tech companies in the Bay Area and private transit for employees.
Post by secretlyevil on Jan 18, 2018 10:31:01 GMT -5
Honestly, it would have been nice to keep Detroit on the list. I believe it would have forced the state to get their shit together and do better by the citizens. It would have been a push the economy really needed.
Pittsburgh's public transit sucks and the downtown is NOT close to the airport.
I have a feeling that if Amazon were to come to Pittsburgh, this would be a good thing for my family because my husband works in tech and we already own a house within commuting distance of the city. Our own community, which is where my husband grew up and is also where his parents and grandparents grew up (which is why we live there), is trying to recover from decades of economic decline and mill closings.
At the same time, our community is low cost of living, and I worry that this will bump up the COL here.
All of this. I can see the appeal for Amazon, but Pgh would almost need to expand the T/metro beyond the South Hills to make this work. A line out West toward Robinson and the airport, a line out East (which would hopefully alleviate some of the issues on 376), and a line North to Cranberry.
We have the educational institutions cranking out a shit ton of graduates and LCOL, but there are so many really depressed areas still decades after the mills closing - especially once you drive more than 10 minutes outside of the city.
Do we really think public transportation will be a major factor? Tech bros tend to lean libertarian and hate public transit - see what has happened with Google and other tech companies in the Bay Area and private transit for employees.
True. Columbus received a huge grant (last year? ) to start designing/investing in updating roads/infrastructure for self-driving cars. I could see that being a hit with the tech bros.
Do we really think public transportation will be a major factor? Tech bros tend to lean libertarian and hate public transit - see what has happened with Google and other tech companies in the Bay Area and private transit for employees.
True. Columbus received a huge grant (last year? ) to start designing/investing in updating roads/infrastructure for self-driving cars. I could see that being a hit with the tech bros.
So has Pgh. It's not just Uber using autonomous vehicles in the city but there's a big push with innovative technology at Robert Morris and by the DOT.
3 finalists in the DMV area?? goodness, don’t let them come to NoVa, please. housing is already ridiculous.
I'm with you, but I'm also selling a house in Loudoun in May/June and I'd like the money. (We've already signed on the price of the house we're moving into in July.)
I would prefer the MoCo location if it comes here.
me too, if only because i'm assuming it's not going to be located at an endline station (they said white flint early, but that was never officially confirmeed as the final bid), so it'll be more efficient in terms of transit access.
The ride from Loudoun on the metro from DC is going to hella long. I can't even imagine.
I would guess Nova proposed it somewhere between Loudoun and Reston so it's not the last stop on the metro.
me too, if only because i'm assuming it's not going to be located at an endline station (they said white flint early, but that was never officially confirmeed as the final bid), so it'll be more efficient in terms of transit access.
The ride from Loudoun on the metro from DC is going to hella long. I can't even imagine.
I would guess Nova proposed it somewhere between Loudoun and Reston so it's not the last stop on the metro.
I'm guessing its in the same space they were looking at for a new stadium. It's fairly close to the airport.
Everyone I know in LoCo that commutes to DC by metro takes a commuter bus straight to West Falls Church. No silver line. That would take forever.
Post by Velar Fricative on Jan 18, 2018 10:50:18 GMT -5
Also, maybe it's just me, but I think Amazon's time will be up soon enough. Not because I'll probably cancel my Prime membership soon because I'm no longer getting anything out of it while other companies are upping their game, but because they've jumped the shark in terms of the shopping experience. Eventually a lot more people are going to be annoyed by the cheap (in price and in quality) stuff that pops up all over the search results.
I mean, I guess they can just buy a lot more companies like they did with WaPo and Whole Foods and still be successful but who knows.
I would prefer the MoCo location if it comes here.
me too, if only because i'm assuming it's not going to be located at an endline station (they said white flint early, but that was never officially confirmeed as the final bid), so it'll be more efficient in terms of transit access.
It's going to be such a clusterfuck if it's MoCo though. White Flint area traffic is absolutely horrendous and it's gotten worse recently with the addition of Pike and Rose and will get even worse once the whole replacement for White Flint Mall goes up. I can't even imagine the traffic if Amazon went there.
If it did win though I'd really regret selling our condo in White Flint 4 years ago. Haha
I'd be ok with them putting Amazon in further up 270 though. White Flint just seems like a bad choice.
Also, maybe it's just me, but I think Amazon's time will be up soon enough. Not because I'll probably cancel my Prime membership soon because I'm no longer getting anything out of it while other companies are upping their game, but because they've jumped the shark in terms of the shopping experience. Eventually a lot more people are going to be annoyed by the cheap (in price and in quality) stuff that pops up all over the search results.
I mean, I guess they can just buy a lot more companies like they did with WaPo and Whole Foods and still be successful but who knows.
I tend to agree. Amazon has forced other companies to have better customer service (Target had free shipping in December, Gap has free returns) which is a good thing and why I've never felt the need to join Prime.
me too, if only because i'm assuming it's not going to be located at an endline station (they said white flint early, but that was never officially confirmeed as the final bid), so it'll be more efficient in terms of transit access.
It's going to be such a clusterfuck if it's MoCo though. White Flint area traffic is absolutely horrendous and it's gotten worse recently with the addition of Pike and Rose and will get even worse once the whole replacement for White Flint Mall goes up. I can't even imagine the traffic if Amazon went there.
If it did win though I'd really regret selling our condo in White Flint 4 years ago. Haha
I'd be ok with them putting Amazon in further up 270 though. White Flint just seems like a bad choice.
NO. STOP IT WITH THIS. OK...LOOK PEOPLE. there is not a place to put this sort of campus that isn't going to be a "traffic clusterfuck" but if one more person suggests that farther out from the center of density in an already overly vehicle dependent area is a BETTER idea in terms of traffic I'm going to ragequit.
Pittsburgh's public transit sucks and the downtown is NOT close to the airport.
I have a feeling that if Amazon were to come to Pittsburgh, this would be a good thing for my family because my husband works in tech and we already own a house within commuting distance of the city. Our own community, which is where my husband grew up and is also where his parents and grandparents grew up (which is why we live there), is trying to recover from decades of economic decline and mill closings.
At the same time, our community is low cost of living, and I worry that this will bump up the COL here.
All of this. I can see the appeal for Amazon, but Pgh would almost need to expand the T/metro beyond the South Hills to make this work. A line out West toward Robinson and the airport, a line out East (which would hopefully alleviate some of the issues on 376), and a line North to Cranberry.
We have the educational institutions cranking out a shit ton of graduates and LCOL, but there are so many really depressed areas still decades after the mills closing - especially once you drive more than 10 minutes outside of the city.
Pittsburgh sucks big steel balls. I’ll be so pissed if they get the HQ’s.
Also, maybe it's just me, but I think Amazon's time will be up soon enough. Not because I'll probably cancel my Prime membership soon because I'm no longer getting anything out of it while other companies are upping their game, but because they've jumped the shark in terms of the shopping experience. Eventually a lot more people are going to be annoyed by the cheap (in price and in quality) stuff that pops up all over the search results.
I mean, I guess they can just buy a lot more companies like they did with WaPo and Whole Foods and still be successful but who knows.
I'm thinking about canceling Prime too. 2 day shipping is almost always 3 days for me right now. I had to yell at a customer service agent last week because nothing in my cart actually met the 2 day requirement and initially they were just ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ we are still recovering from the holiday rush what do you expect? I EXPECT THE 2 DAY DELIVERY THAT I PAID FOR.
Yeah, Boston would be insane. I am kind of sad Providence dropped off, it would have been perfect. I also would have loved to see the Central MA locations aren't in the running, that would have been good too. But please not Boston.
The more I think of it, the more I wonder if this was simply strategic on Amazon's part to name some of these cities. Like, they would be insane to actually pick Boston, IMO. High taxes, high salaries, shitty public transportation and traffic, inaccessible housing...I love Boston but I just don't see how it would be a good choice.
But by naming Boston as a finalist, Amazon gets almost all of NE super excited about the possibility and invested in the company. It's basically free advertising, regardless of whether to not they'll actually ever come here.
A lot of my downtown neighbors are thrilled. I assume mostly at the prospect of our property values rising even higher. As someone who would eventually like to move to the suburbs and will have to join in on the already insane commute, however, it makes me feel sick to my stomach. We're so overcrowded here as it is, and this area doesn't have the kind of infrastructure needed to deal with a massive population.
I don't think it will happen. This area just doesn't make sense.
Post by mrs.jacinthe on Jan 18, 2018 11:12:41 GMT -5
Sacramento's out - which is unfortunate for my career (I'm a realtor) but really, fortunate for the city. We do not have the infrastructure to support the mass transit needs of a company like Amazon. Traffic would become an absolute bay-area-level nightmare and it's already bad.
Post by karinothing on Jan 18, 2018 11:15:36 GMT -5
I don't think Amazon has reached its peak yet. I think they are making the shopping part irrelevant. They have their own production company now (producing music and TV). They opened a restaurant delivery service. They are going to continue to add more and more parts to their business that have nothing to do with shopping for products.
Do we really think public transportation will be a major factor? Tech bros tend to lean libertarian and hate public transit - see what has happened with Google and other tech companies in the Bay Area and private transit for employees.
I don't. We have a shitton of companies here an piss poor public transit. Also regarding the traffic here in Atlanta. If they pick a location on the South-side, like Porsche did, the traffic will be fine.
That's too bad. I think Detroit would have been a great choice in a lot of ways. I know Amazon wanted a place that has good public transportation and Detroit definitely does not. But it would have been cool if this had motivated a wide-scale public transportation project to get underway.
I don't think Amazon has reached its peak yet. I think they are making the shopping part irrelevant. They have their own production company now (producing music and TV). They opened a restaurant delivery service. They are going to continue to add more and more parts to their business that have nothing to do with shopping for products.
I considered this, but I still feel like they're going to have shopping as their bread and butter. They're constructing a huge warehouse in my borough and I think that would be a stupid move if they are going to prioritize everything else but shopping. I guess they could eventually repurpose the warehouse and others they may be constructing elsewhere for something else...but repurpose it to what?
I don't think Amazon has reached its peak yet. I think they are making the shopping part irrelevant. They have their own production company now (producing music and TV). They opened a restaurant delivery service. They are going to continue to add more and more parts to their business that have nothing to do with shopping for products.
I considered this, but I still feel like they're going to have shopping as their bread and butter. They're constructing a huge warehouse in my borough and I think that would be a stupid move if they are going to prioritize everything else but shopping. I guess they could eventually repurpose the warehouse and others they may be constructing elsewhere for something else...but repurpose it to what?
Who knows? I just assume they are going to take over. They will probably become USPS one day.