who watched Below Deck??

[cleo29]

It was gooooood. caroline definitely re-writes things in her head, which should make for a good reunion.

Next week will have the man (Ashton) overboard incident.

[mrsd2006]

I told DH that's not at all what happened!! It was stupid for Kate and Josiah to put on the speaker. I mean, they should have just let the Capt. handle it if she wouldn't leave.

Rylee needs to chill. I really want to like her but she makes it hard. Looks like her and Ross get flirty next week too.

Kaye and Josiah are on WWHL tonight.

[aliciabella]

I don't think Caroline was wrong. Fuck Kate and Josiah because that was some bullshit lying about the captain saying she has an hour and blasting music Pike that. That was straight up fucking bullying.

[cleo29]

Recording WWHL tonight.

I agree about the speakers, but the rest of it Caroline painted a completely incorrect picture. She also has no awareness of how much slack they picked up with her foot issues and even when she could work she was a fucking basket case and made tons of mistakes. Were they sometimes snarky? Yes, but overall I think Kate treated her well, especially compared to past charters.

[cleo29]

Nov 27, 2018 22:42:41 GMT -5 aliciabella said:

I don't think Caroline was wrong. Fuck Kate and Josiah because that was some bullshit lying about the captain saying she has an hour and blasting music Pike that. That was straight up fucking bullying.

Um, no. lol She gave them two days notice. When they realize she was not out working, Josiah goes to her door to see when she was coming out and she says, Ummm, I'm not. and he says, but you gave us two days and she says, Yeah, I changed my mind. And all with an attitude.

THEN they retaliated. I am not saying that they should have taken it to that level. I think telling her, listen, if you are not going to fulfill your two days, then you need to leave now is understandable. I don't agree with the rest. Caroline painted an incomplete and incorrect picture to the captain.

[chchchia]

Caroline quit the job and then proceeded to lay in bed! That’s not how it’s done. That’s not how any of it’s done. You quit, you leave.
Immature to blast the speakers but funny.
Rhylee, something is off with her.

[cleo29]

Nov 27, 2018 22:55:01 GMT -5 chchchia said:

Caroline quit the job and then proceeded to lay in bed! That’s not how it’s done. That’s not how any of it’s done. You quit, you leave.
Immature to blast the speakers but funny.
Rhylee, something is off with her.

Yeah, Rhylee needs to dial it down a notch. She is so quick or ready for someone to offend her, that I think she is sometimes seeing or hearing it where there is none. I also think she has to stop assuming that the tasks they give her are any different than any other 3rd or 4th deckhand.

[vanillacourage]

Rhylee needs to realize that if she’s having the same issues with Chandler...and Kate...and Ross...and Adrian... and even Ashton at times, that the consistent factor is HER. She’s the problem. 

Kate and Josiah should not have played the music or gotten bitchy (“are you ever going to leave?”). It made them lose credibility when I’m sure the captain would have supported giving Caroline a short timeline to GTFO. 

[cleo29]

Nov 27, 2018 23:06:10 GMT -5 vanillacourage said:

Rhylee needs to realize that if she’s having the same issues with Chandler...and Kate...and Ross...and Adrian... and even Ashton at times, that the consistent factor is HER. She’s the problem. 

Kate and Josiah should not have played the music or gotten bitchy (“are you ever going to leave?”). It made them lose credibility when I’m sure the captain would have supported giving Caroline a short timeline to GTFO. 

I totally agree. They let their frustration and anger get the best of them. I get it. You carried her ass through each charter and now she is pretty much giving you the finger on the way out. It would irritate, no doubt. They should have handled it better.

[aliciabella]

Nov 27, 2018 22:47:12 GMT -5 cleo29 said:

Nov 27, 2018 22:42:41 GMT -5 aliciabella said:

I don't think Caroline was wrong. Fuck Kate and Josiah because that was some bullshit lying about the captain saying she has an hour and blasting music Pike that. That was straight up fucking bullying.

Um, no. lol She gave them two days notice. When they realize she was not out working, Josiah goes to her door to see when she was coming out and she says, Ummm, I'm not. and he says, but you gave us two days and she says, Yeah, I changed my mind. And all with an attitude.

THEN they retaliated. I am not saying that they should have taken it to that level. I think telling her, listen, if you are not going to fulfill your two days, then you need to leave now is understandable. I don't agree with the rest. Caroline painted an incomplete and incorrect picture to the captain.

No, that isn't how the real world behaves. The captain left the boat for one fucking hour. You wait until he gets back to deal with it. If you are the boss you don't yell through the door, blast music, no, fuck that, that bullying.

[morecoffeeplease]

Caroline is kinda dragging the captain on twitter.

[tamarindy]

Caroline was such an embarrassment. No, Kate and Josiah shouldn’t have played the music but they weren’t about to let her just sleep after she quit, and I don’t blame them. Josiah was perfectly civil and she was such a bitch to him. She fucked them over royally, multiple times. She wasn’t bullied.

It would be like me quitting my teaching job, then telling my boss off, leaving my class with no coverage, then heading to the school café to enjoy some lunch and a nap on the football field. They’d call the cops on me for trespassing.

Rhylee should follow the other two out the door, ASAP.

[meowmaps]

Kate makes for good TV and she seems to be very competent at her job. She reminds me of a high school friend. She was great to me, but she could be really mean to people not in her circle. I always thought, geez, I'm glad I'm on her good side. So I can sympathize with Caroline on that point but she was unprofessional, frantic, and overall, not great at her job. If she hadn't quit I think they should've let her go.

An aside about Kate, she should really tone down the heavy makeup. She looks way older than her years.

Rhylee's bad attitude is just out of control. She's lucky to have any job.

Glad to see Chandler go. I'm sort of surprised at how uneventful his firing was. I guess I don't understand why he didn't just quit if he was so relieved to be let go.

[cleo29]

Nov 27, 2018 23:22:30 GMT -5 aliciabella said:

Nov 27, 2018 22:47:12 GMT -5 cleo29 said:

Um, no. lol She gave them two days notice. When they realize she was not out working, Josiah goes to her door to see when she was coming out and she says, Ummm, I'm not. and he says, but you gave us two days and she says, Yeah, I changed my mind. And all with an attitude.

THEN they retaliated. I am not saying that they should have taken it to that level. I think telling her, listen, if you are not going to fulfill your two days, then you need to leave now is understandable. I don't agree with the rest. Caroline painted an incomplete and incorrect picture to the captain.

No, that isn't how the real world behaves. The captain left the boat for one fucking hour. You wait until he gets back to deal with it. If you are the boss you don't yell through the door, blast music, no, fuck that, that bullying.

It is also not the real world to give two days notice and then decide, nope I am just going to sleep instead. It is not like she was packing and told them,  "you know what, I just can't. I am packing and waiting to see the captain on the way out." Also, she gave her notice to Kate, not Captain Lee the night before.

I am not saying the blasting of music was ok or anything, but you can't sit there and say she did nothing wrong either. And she was not honest when telling how things went down when talking with Ross or the Captain. She was only the innocent victim which is bullshit.

[spindle92]

The loud music was ridiculous but I did laugh at Kate yelling "You have 1 hour to get off the boat. Are you EVER going to leave?" That was comedy gold.

Rylee needs to go. If I hear one more time "I was a fishing boat captain", I might hurl.
I have seen Alaskan fishing boats and it is like saying "You are no longer in Kansas anymore". A luxury yacht is just a TAD bit different than a fishing boat. Even down to how you dock it. Hell, fishing boats rarely even use bumpers.

and I also find it odd how Rylee is chewing Ross out one minute and then the previews for next week show her making out with him. She does the same thing with Ashton.

[cleo29]

Nov 28, 2018 14:06:32 GMT -5 spindle92 said:

The loud music was ridiculous but I did laugh at Kate yelling "You have 1 hour to get off the boat. Are you EVER going to leave?" That was comedy gold.

Rylee needs to go. If I hear one more time "I was a fishing boat captain", I might hurl.
I have seen Alaskan fishing boats and it is like saying "You are no longer in Kansas anymore". A luxury yacht is just a TAD bit different than a fishing boat. Even down to how you dock it. Hell, fishing boats rarely even use bumpers.

and I also find it odd how Rylee is chewing Ross out one minute and then the previews for next week show her making out with him. She does the same thing with Ashton.

Maybe the fighting turns her on?  But yeah, she needs to pump the breaks on her reactions. 

[frlcb]

Supposedly Kate and Josiah were yelling pretty nasty stuff through the door at Caroline. Who knows if it is true?

allaboutthetea.com/2018/11/27/chandler-brooks-fired-caroline-bedol-quits/

[morecoffeeplease]

I just finished the episode. Why didn’t Caroline quit to the captain. And it’s weird she gave two days notice and then decided not to work the next day. She didn’t even see Kate and Josiah in between quitting and the next day. It’s all so weird.

Kate and Josiah were wrong but I don’t really believe she said what the article said. That doesn’t sound like Kate. Kate is more passive aggressive.

[morecoffeeplease]

And I think Caroline is a bit more off than we saw on the show. She goes on these twitter tirades.

[cleo29]

Nov 28, 2018 20:24:15 GMT -5 frlcb said:

Supposedly Kate and Josiah were yelling pretty nasty stuff through the door at Caroline. Who knows if it is true?

allaboutthetea.com/2018/11/27/chandler-brooks-fired-caroline-bedol-quits/

I think a lot of that is bullshit. And you have crews filming enough, heck they already showed that the story Caroline told Ross and the Captain was not accurate at all.

I think she has a lot going on and was not suited to this work. Things frazzled her so easily, she could not get drinks right, and on and on and on. And she was pretty much dead weight for most of the trip and I don't think she ever really acknowledged that.

I don't know. I do not have much sympathy for her. I don't agree with the music, etc, but she totally fucked them over in quitting when and how she did.

[cleo29]

Nov 28, 2018 20:33:44 GMT -5 morecoffeeplease said:

And I think Caroline is a bit more off than we saw on the show. She goes on these twitter tirades.

What are some of the things she is saying?

[NomadicMama]

Nov 28, 2018 21:34:46 GMT -5 cleo29 said:

Nov 28, 2018 20:33:44 GMT -5 morecoffeeplease said:

And I think Caroline is a bit more off than we saw on the show. She goes on these twitter tirades.

What are some of the things she is saying?

This seems to capture a bit of the Twitter situation: www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/struggling-restaurants-might-not-survive-2019.html/

[aliciabella]

Nov 28, 2018 20:24:15 GMT -5 frlcb said:

Supposedly Kate and Josiah were yelling pretty nasty stuff through the door at Caroline. Who knows if it is true?

allaboutthetea.com/2018/11/27/chandler-brooks-fired-caroline-bedol-quits/

Yeah, they showed some of it. I am still shocked people aren't outraged with Kate. Listen, Caroline was a hot mess and too sensitive for this show but if I had walked in on my boss talking shit about me the 2nd day there, questioning my injury and clearly being a condescending mean girl with Josiah I would be upset too.

Kate is supposed to be her boss and if anyone here had a boss constantly talking shit about you, banging on your door and lying about the captain kicking her off, calling her fucking crazy several times through the door then blasting music, we would be outraged. Kate also seemed to time this reaction for the exact hour the captain was off the boat which was no coincidence. Also, they are halfway across the world so it wasn't like she could pack up her items and drive home. I am sure production was involved but they still had to get her a ticket, etc.

Calling someone, who openly stated her mother and herself suffer from MH issues, crazy over and over then blasting music to make her crazy from your BOSS is fucked up. Bosses have many shitty employees and she was one but treating someone like that is unacceptable.

I still love all of you like-minded reality nuts, like myself, but I respectfully disagree that Caroline's treatment was appropriate

[morecoffeeplease]

Nov 28, 2018 21:34:46 GMT -5 cleo29 said:

Nov 28, 2018 20:33:44 GMT -5 morecoffeeplease said:

And I think Caroline is a bit more off than we saw on the show. She goes on these twitter tirades.

What are some of the things she is saying?

I don't remember specifically but she goes on and on during the airing of the shows. It's against her castmates and this week it was against Capt. Lee. It's like she can't stop herself. 

She says Kate set her up to fail when it came to the sugar but people asked her if that meant Kate moved the sugar but she ignored the question.

edit to add: she seems to delete  lot of her tweets afyer the fact

[morecoffeeplease]

aliciabella I don't think Kate is blameless at all. I think the music thing was over the top and unacceptable especially because Caroline really seemed to be losing it at that time. I just question the stuff the tea article says Kate says. I followed the whole saga about Ashley/Thomas/Patricia on the tea website and it came out a lot of stories are put out there by the person who wants to look good. So I don't think they are unbiased and I think they'll run with whatever is given to them, true or not.

I do think it was strange that Caroline knew she wasn't going out and knew she was going to quit and quit in front of the crew first and not to Lee. I don't think Caroline was blameless this season too.

Everyone, especially Kate, should have done better but I don't believe all of the stuff in that article.

[tamarindy]

Nov 29, 2018 1:23:51 GMT -5 aliciabella said:

Nov 28, 2018 20:24:15 GMT -5 frlcb said:

Supposedly Kate and Josiah were yelling pretty nasty stuff through the door at Caroline. Who knows if it is true?

allaboutthetea.com/2018/11/27/chandler-brooks-fired-caroline-bedol-quits/

Yeah, they showed some of it. I am still shocked people aren't outraged with Kate. Listen, Caroline was a hot mess and too sensitive for this show but if I had walked in on my boss talking shit about me the 2nd day there, questioning my injury and clearly being a condescending mean girl with Josiah I would be upset too.

Kate is supposed to be her boss and if anyone here had a boss constantly talking shit about you, banging on your door and lying about the captain kicking her off, calling her fucking crazy several times through the door then blasting music, we would be outraged. Kate also seemed to time this reaction for the exact hour the captain was off the boat which was no coincidence. Also, they are halfway across the world so it wasn't like she could pack up her items and drive home. I am sure production was involved but they still had to get her a ticket, etc.

Calling someone, who openly stated her mother and herself suffer from MH issues, crazy over and over then blasting music to make her crazy from your BOSS is fucked up. Bosses have many shitty employees and she was one but treating someone like that is unacceptable.

I still love all of you like-minded reality nuts, like myself, but I respectfully disagree that Caroline's treatment was appropriate

Unless it’s an editing thing, Caroline decided to quit while “Cappy” (ugh, cringeworthy) was off. So Kate wouldn’t have timed anything out. She didn’t doubt her injury either, she said “I don’t think she’s lying.” She made her appointments three times, and Caroline didn’t help flip the boat once. She gives “two days” and then totally gives Josiah an attitude in the morning and decided to quit. Nothing had happened overnight (except her dream according to her - come on) and she decides she’s out. She came off on the show as extremely manipulative, lazy, unwilling to take responsibility, and, yes, a “hot mess.” No, they shouldn’t have put the music on but damnit I would be reaching my breaking point. They did all they could to help her all while she earned the same money as they did each trip. She couldn’t even look up how to make a Bloody Mary.

[cleo29]

Nov 29, 2018 1:23:51 GMT -5 aliciabella said:

Nov 28, 2018 20:24:15 GMT -5 frlcb said:

Supposedly Kate and Josiah were yelling pretty nasty stuff through the door at Caroline. Who knows if it is true?

allaboutthetea.com/2018/11/27/chandler-brooks-fired-caroline-bedol-quits/

Yeah, they showed some of it. I am still shocked people aren't outraged with Kate. Listen, Caroline was a hot mess and too sensitive for this show but if I had walked in on my boss talking shit about me the 2nd day there, questioning my injury and clearly being a condescending mean girl with Josiah I would be upset too.

Kate is supposed to be her boss and if anyone here had a boss constantly talking shit about you, banging on your door and lying about the captain kicking her off, calling her fucking crazy several times through the door then blasting music, we would be outraged. Kate also seemed to time this reaction for the exact hour the captain was off the boat which was no coincidence. Also, they are halfway across the world so it wasn't like she could pack up her items and drive home. I am sure production was involved but they still had to get her a ticket, etc.

Calling someone, who openly stated her mother and herself suffer from MH issues, crazy over and over then blasting music to make her crazy from your BOSS is fucked up. Bosses have many shitty employees and she was one but treating someone like that is unacceptable.

I still love all of you like-minded reality nuts, like myself, but I respectfully disagree that Caroline's treatment was appropriate

I think most of us have said that we did not agree with the blasting of music, etc. I don't. But I don't think they were wrong then telling her that she had an hour to get packed and leave. Caroline never really pulled her weight, even before the injury, and now she was shitting on them on her way out. So I don't think they were wrong to not want her lounging in bed while they turned the boat around.

Caroline talked shit about people on the boat, they just did not catch her at it.

And I think they questioned her foot because more often than not, she was walking just fine on it and then would sometimes limp. When the person who was never really doing a great job at their job does that, I think it would be normal to wonder if they are playing things up a bit. Not that she was not injured, her foot was clearly swollen, but how painful it was, etc.

[cleo29]

Nov 29, 2018 5:35:39 GMT -5 morecoffeeplease said:

aliciabella I don't think Kate is blameless at all. I think the music thing was over the top and unacceptable especially because Caroline really seemed to be losing it at that time. I just question the stuff the tea article says Kate says. I followed the whole saga about Ashley/Thomas/Patricia on the tea website and it came out a lot of stories are put out there by the person who wants to look good. So I don't think they are unbiased and I think they'll run with whatever is given to them, true or not.

I do think it was strange that Caroline knew she wasn't going out and knew she was going to quit and quit in front of the crew first and not to Lee. I don't think Caroline was blameless this season too.

Everyone, especially Kate, should have done better but I don't believe all of the stuff in that article.

Yes, she should have talked with Captain Lee and then she could tell the crew.

[jackie011]

The thing that I keep coming back to is that this isn’t a normal job. You don’t want to go out to lunch with your annoying coworkers? No big deal, you just eat at your desk. Had a rough day and want to go home and unwind? Easy- leave work and do that. This doesn’t happen on a yacht. You cannot escape! Even in their down time, they are together. You have very little time to reset/recharge when something’s bothering you, and in very close quarters. I’m not saying either side is blameless, I’m just saying you cannot compare this to an average job. Plus, it’s a reality TV show edited for dramatic effect.

I feel like Kate & Josiah gave her a lot of chances and covered for her multiple times. Kate has very high expectations and 3 is a tricky dynamic. I don’t think they needed to blast the music outside her door, but Caroline was also being childish at the time. As with any reality show I always wonder why the people seem to forget someone is filming your every move and can either prove or disprove whatever you’re saying.

[ECB]

So my jumble of thoughts:

Kate is kate is kate. if you've watched this show and then want to be ON the show, you need to go in with eyes wide open. Kate can be a bitch. I also think she's damn good at her job. But - she can absolutely be a bitch. I'm not excusing her - but Caroline shouldn't be oh-so-shocked at how Kate acted sometimes. This is WHO this woman is.

NOW, that being said, if that article is true, if Kate said the things she said about Caroline's mom- that's beyond gross and disgusting and Kate absolutely needs more than a slap on the wrist for that behavior.

And then Caroline- clearly she isn't cut out for this kind of work, for one. And damn... that girl spun EVERYTHING incorrectly. There were numerous times throughout the season where someone would say something to her and her interpretation of it was SO wildly off. So - her recollection of what happened - she actually flat out lied about some of it. She was making it sound like she said "I'm not working" then IMMEDIATELY Kate and Josiah flipped out on her, which is NOT what happened at all.

And for someone who gets pissed about not getting respect, she gave no respect either. She was ENTIRELY flippant with Josiah when he asked if she was coming to work. "Nope - I decided not to" and when he pushed, she was really rude and flip with him.

She's that millennial who gives millennials a bad name! She wants to be coddled and have her hand held, but then she feels she can be snippy and rude to people and not have it blow back on her. And when it does, she cries and flips out.

And lastly- Rhylee. Good lord. As someone above said, I WANT to like her. I really do. But she cops a damn attitude about EVERYTHING. As much as Chandler was a douche, the fact that on day 1 with Ross as bosun, she's pulling the same shit with him, clearly she was absolutely a part of the problem with Chandler. And for ALL her talk of being a boat captain, she of anyone should understand rank and file and sometimes you just need to shut up and do what you're told.