Week of Feb 17

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Feb 21, 2019 0:21:02 GMT -5 wise_rita said:

Good egg count from my retrieval (11).

I'm blown away by the huge numbers I see online, 20-30 is not unheard of. They're much more conservative here with meds and what they want to see (6-15 is a good number).

Glad to see my trigger screwing up didn't do any harm!

That’s about where I landed the first two go rounds (13 then 8). They upped my dosages significantly for my last and I think it was 17, but they dwindled down to 4 blasts. Higher numbers are often people with PCOS or maybe more meds. FX they all fertilize and grow beautifully. Rest up!

[G22]

PIO injections start today. I've been mentally preparing myself for this since the start of this cycle.

[msmerymac]

Feb 22, 2019 9:27:19 GMT -5 G22 said:

PIO injections start today. I've been mentally preparing myself for this since the start of this cycle.

Good luck! My doc has me on PIO at night and crinone in the morning, and they both suck in different ways, lol.

[G22]

Feb 22, 2019 10:34:26 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Feb 22, 2019 9:27:19 GMT -5 G22 said:

PIO injections start today. I've been mentally preparing myself for this since the start of this cycle.

Good luck! My doc has me on PIO at night and crinone in the morning, and they both suck in different ways, lol.

Thanks! I've only been on oral or vaginal progesterone in the past, so you absolutely have my sympathies being on both options at the same time!

[stellelinds25]

Feb 22, 2019 10:50:33 GMT -5 G22 said:

Feb 22, 2019 10:34:26 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Good luck! My doc has me on PIO at night and crinone in the morning, and they both suck in different ways, lol.

Thanks! I've only been on oral or vaginal progesterone in the past, so you absolutely have my sympathies being on both options at the same time!

I was absolutely dreading the PIO, but it really hasn’t been as bad as I was anticipating. However, I definitely have some extra padding in that area, so maybe that helps lol.

[G22]

Feb 22, 2019 11:31:47 GMT -5 stellelinds25 said:

Feb 22, 2019 10:50:33 GMT -5 G22 said:

Thanks! I've only been on oral or vaginal progesterone in the past, so you absolutely have my sympathies being on both options at the same time!

I was absolutely dreading the PIO, but it really hasn’t been as bad as I was anticipating. However, I definitely have some extra padding in that area, so maybe that helps lol.

Ha I dont have a ton of padding back there but it wasnt too bad. I'm thankful I have injection training from being a medical assistant and have given plenty of IM shots to patients, otherwise this would be so much more stressful. I just had to get out of my own head and over doing it to myself. I definitely was dreading the first shot today!

[seeyalater52]

Feb 22, 2019 10:34:26 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Feb 22, 2019 9:27:19 GMT -5 G22 said:

PIO injections start today. I've been mentally preparing myself for this since the start of this cycle.

Good luck! My doc has me on PIO at night and crinone in the morning, and they both suck in different ways, lol.

I also have to do both every cycle. Worst of both worlds lol. 

[chocolatepie]

Feb 22, 2019 12:49:05 GMT -5 G22 said:

Feb 22, 2019 11:31:47 GMT -5 stellelinds25 said:

I was absolutely dreading the PIO, but it really hasn’t been as bad as I was anticipating. However, I definitely have some extra padding in that area, so maybe that helps lol.

Ha I dont have a ton of padding back there but it wasnt too bad. I'm thankful I have injection training from being a medical assistant and have given plenty of IM shots to patients, otherwise this would be so much more stressful. I just had to get out of my own head and over doing it to myself. I definitely was dreading the first shot today!

I was overly dramatic about mine but *knock on wood* they don't even hurt. i just feel a slight pinch and that's it. But I totally do the ice prior with the med under my armpit and then heating pad after. I've been doing it for just over a week but so far, no soreness or knots.

But the good Lord has blessed/burdened me with some junk in the trunk so I'm sure that helps...

OH! And I reward myself with frozen chocolate chips after each shot. I calorie count so it's a total splurge for me. 

[G22]

Feb 22, 2019 19:10:44 GMT -5 chocolatepie said:

Feb 22, 2019 12:49:05 GMT -5 G22 said:

Ha I dont have a ton of padding back there but it wasnt too bad. I'm thankful I have injection training from being a medical assistant and have given plenty of IM shots to patients, otherwise this would be so much more stressful. I just had to get out of my own head and over doing it to myself. I definitely was dreading the first shot today!

I was overly dramatic about mine but *knock on wood* they don't even hurt. i just feel a slight pinch and that's it. But I totally do the ice prior with the med under my armpit and then heating pad after. I've been doing it for just over a week but so far, no soreness or knots.

But the good Lord has blessed/burdened me with some junk in the trunk so I'm sure that helps...

OH! And I reward myself with frozen chocolate chips after each shot. I calorie count so it's a total splurge for me. 

You total earn and deserve those chocolate chips after each shot! You need something to look forward to after each one!

Today didnt hurt much, a pinch like you said. I used heat before and after, warmed up the oil between my boobs and then massaged the crap out of the area after. I did my right side today, because that is the easier one to reach. Tomorrow will be interesting trying the left side!

[seeyalater52]

My little sisters baby shower invite just landed in my inbox this morning. I cried for an hour. I have no idea how I’m going to be able to keep it together.

[G22]

Feb 23, 2019 9:16:42 GMT -5 seeyalater52 said:

My little sisters baby shower invite just landed in my inbox this morning. I cried for an hour. I have no idea how I’m going to be able to keep it together.

I'm so sorry Baby showers invitations were right up there with pregnancy announcements for me. I turned down so many shower invites last time we were struggling to get pregnant, but I have no idea how I would have handled one I couldn't avoid like a sibling.


Cry as much as you need, and feel free to step away during if it gets too painful. If you need to vent, you know we are here ((hugs))

[seeyalater52]

Feb 23, 2019 9:24:55 GMT -5 G22 said:

Feb 23, 2019 9:16:42 GMT -5 seeyalater52 said:

My little sisters baby shower invite just landed in my inbox this morning. I cried for an hour. I have no idea how I’m going to be able to keep it together.

I'm so sorry Baby showers invitations were right up there with pregnancy announcements for me. I turned down so many shower invites last time we were struggling to get pregnant, but I have no idea how I would have handled one I couldn't avoid like a sibling.


Cry as much as you need, and feel free to step away during if it gets too painful. If you need to vent, you know we are here ((hugs))

Thank you. I want to turn it down so badly, but I’m sure that’s not possible. It is a co-ed shower and I’m 99% sure the vast majority of couples attending will be bringing their infant children with them. As if it wasn’t bad enough the normal way.

[G22]

Feb 23, 2019 9:26:42 GMT -5 seeyalater52 said:

Feb 23, 2019 9:24:55 GMT -5 G22 said:

I'm so sorry Baby showers invitations were right up there with pregnancy announcements for me. I turned down so many shower invites last time we were struggling to get pregnant, but I have no idea how I would have handled one I couldn't avoid like a sibling.


Cry as much as you need, and feel free to step away during if it gets too painful. If you need to vent, you know we are here ((hugs))

Thank you. I want to turn it down so badly, but I’m sure that’s not possible. It is a co-ed shower and I’m 99% sure the vast majority of couples attending will be bringing their infant children with them. As if it wasn’t bad enough the normal way.

Ugh, because it can't be "simple" can it? Do you have some time to mentally prepare for the shower? I hope so! 

[msmerymac]

seeyalater52, I'm so sorry. I urge you not to go. You need to do what's right for your mental health.

*Loss mentioned*

When I had my second loss I ended up in the ER, since it was unexpected and I was at work at the time. I knew what was happening, but urgent care wasn't able to do anything (they don't have ultrasound equipment - not like you can DO anything, except bleed all over the hospital's sheets instead of your own). When I got to check-in at the ER and was telling the intake nurse I was having a miscarriage, she asked if I was seeing an OB-GYN yet. I said no, and RE. She asked if I used IVF. I told her yes. She asked if I had been pregnant before. I said once. She asked if I had any children. I said no. The poor nurse's face practically crumpled. Anyway, she told me about a local doctor she used to conceive her daughter (who a few people I now know through RESOLVE use). She told me how absolutely hard it was to go through IF. She told me, "I didn't even go to my sister's baby shower. And nobody understands. My sister actually did, but my other sister didn't at all." Anyway, after that literally everyone I talked to that day from the billing specialist to the doctor had some experience with IF because I know that nurse found those people in particular to come deal with my case.

[fairfax]

Feb 23, 2019 9:16:42 GMT -5 seeyalater52 said:

My little sisters baby shower invite just landed in my inbox this morning. I cried for an hour. I have no idea how I’m going to be able to keep it together.

I’m so sorry. Can you be sick that day? I think you’ll be coming down with something...

[seeyalater52]

Feb 23, 2019 15:33:59 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

seeyalater52, I'm so sorry. I urge you not to go. You need to do what's right for your mental health.

*Loss mentioned*

When I had my second loss I ended up in the ER, since it was unexpected and I was at work at the time. I knew what was happening, but urgent care wasn't able to do anything (they don't have ultrasound equipment - not like you can DO anything, except bleed all over the hospital's sheets instead of your own). When I got to check-in at the ER and was telling the intake nurse I was having a miscarriage, she asked if I was seeing an OB-GYN yet. I said no, and RE. She asked if I used IVF. I told her yes. She asked if I had been pregnant before. I said once. She asked if I had any children. I said no. The poor nurse's face practically crumpled. Anyway, she told me about a local doctor she used to conceive her daughter (who a few people I now know through RESOLVE use). She told me how absolutely hard it was to go through IF. She told me, "I didn't even go to my sister's baby shower. And nobody understands. My sister actually did, but my other sister didn't at all." Anyway, after that literally everyone I talked to that day from the billing specialist to the doctor had some experience with IF because I know that nurse found those people in particular to come deal with my case.

So true. And you and fairfax are right, I probably should turn it down. Maybe we will see how I feel then (it’s not until the end of March.) My sister and I have had such a rocky go of it. We went from being best friends and her lack of sensitivity and understanding about infertility and the losses has really put a wedge between us, and she’s distanced herself from me because she sees me as a dark cloud taking away from what is supposed to be a joyful time for her, so she hasn’t offered any sort of support. At the same time, my family expects me to be there to support her and has been angry that I’ve not been able to do so.

I know that’s on them for being the worst, but I’m not sure how much I’m willing to give up permanently on my relationship with them, and if I dont go to the shower I think we might never recover from that.

[vmars]

seeyalater52, I am sorry your sister isn’t supportive I am the youngest in my family and my sister had a miscarriage with her first pregnancy. She is 8 years older than me so we were no where near any sort of competition to start a family.. I remember asking my mom if I should take off work to go be with her when she needed her d&c. My mom basically told me she didn’t want me there, that she was dealing with it privately so I dropped it. I felt awful that she didn’t want me there. She never knew that happened and got mad at me years later for not being supportive during that time. I explained I thought I was honoring her wishes and we were able to forgive each other. She is very supportive of what is going on with me and I have been sharing everything with her.

[seeyalater52]

Feb 23, 2019 18:15:24 GMT -5 vmars said:

seeyalater52, I am sorry your sister isn’t supportive I am the youngest in my family and my sister had a miscarriage with her first pregnancy. She is 8 years older than me so we were no where near any sort of competition to start a family.. I remember asking my mom if I should take off work to go be with her when she needed her d&c. My mom basically told me she didn’t want me there, that she was dealing with it privately so I dropped it. I felt awful that she didn’t want me there. She never knew that happened and got mad at me years later for not being supportive during that time. I explained I thought I was honoring her wishes and we were able to forgive each other. She is very supportive of what is going on with me and I have been sharing everything with her.

I’m so sorry, that kind of game of telephone is so tough, especially when you were young. It sounds like your instincts were so kind to want to be there for your sister.

The things she has said about my losses have just been... kind of breathtakingly awful. And I’ve been pretty communicative about what what would be helpful and she has been equally communicative that she can’t be there for me right now because she wants to enjoy her pregnancy in peace. And my response to that has essentially been to say that I understand, and that given this, she should understand that I too am not in a place to be supportive of her during her pregnancy. She and my mom both think I’m a selfish drama queen because the losses weren’t far enough along and don’t count (my sister has said multiple times that she doesn’t think they count as pregnancies at all.) So we are kind of at an impasse on it.

[vmars]

seeyalater52, that is beyond awful. I have heard people say terrible things about early losses and that they do not count. They couldn’t be more wrong.

Alsox she can absolutely be sympathetic to you and still enjoy her pregnancy. The fact that she would say that makes my blood boil. I would not attend the shower and wouldn’t feel guilty about it. She’s being a drama queen by not supporting her sister during a difficult time in her life.

[fairfax]

Feb 23, 2019 18:21:11 GMT -5 seeyalater52 said:

Feb 23, 2019 18:15:24 GMT -5 vmars said:

seeyalater52, I am sorry your sister isn’t supportive I am the youngest in my family and my sister had a miscarriage with her first pregnancy. She is 8 years older than me so we were no where near any sort of competition to start a family.. I remember asking my mom if I should take off work to go be with her when she needed her d&c. My mom basically told me she didn’t want me there, that she was dealing with it privately so I dropped it. I felt awful that she didn’t want me there. She never knew that happened and got mad at me years later for not being supportive during that time. I explained I thought I was honoring her wishes and we were able to forgive each other. She is very supportive of what is going on with me and I have been sharing everything with her.

I’m so sorry, that kind of game of telephone is so tough, especially when you were young. It sounds like your instincts were so kind to want to be there for your sister.

The things she has said about my losses have just been... kind of breathtakingly awful. And I’ve been pretty communicative about what what would be helpful and she has been equally communicative that she can’t be there for me right now because she wants to enjoy her pregnancy in peace. And my response to that has essentially been to say that I understand, and that given this, she should understand that I too am not in a place to be supportive of her during her pregnancy. She and my mom both think I’m a selfish drama queen because the losses weren’t far enough along and don’t count (my sister has said multiple times that she doesn’t think they count as pregnancies at all.) So we are kind of at an impasse on it.

I totally get that you may not want to commit (in their eyes) the unforgivable sin of not attending. And who knows, maybe when it comes time you will feel like you can attend and make nice for an hour.

But, given the absolutely horrible way they’ve treated you, I vote you send a lovely gift and then get a case of food poisoning that morning. Screw anyone who says those things - they don’t deserve your company.