Patsy Baloney C's four month regression was almost all nap based. It was soul crushing for me. I had been feeding him to sleep, which made matters worse.
We're pulling the swaddle tonight. It's causing more harm than good, but he's not quite ready at the same time. It's gonna be a long night I suspect.
DD slept at my parents Friday. She slept for 6 hours and then 4 hours. Wtf mom, what are you doing that we aren’t?
We are going to a sleep session put on by a sleep consultant on Friday. Hopefully we will be able to get some ideas how to get her to sleep longer (or at least take naps in the day time).
He only made it until 1145 or so, and then 130 with the assistance of a pacifier popped in. So I ended up getting out of bed like 4 or 5 times by 2 am when I called it. I swaddled him for a two hour stretch. He's been in there an hour again. I needed to get up anyway, which is good because he had pulled it up over his face.
All naps will be with the sleep sack, but he and I are both exhausted and will not be trying tonight, at least for the first stretch.
I would prefer to pull it on a weekend but we are going camping this weekend
The past couple nights DS2 has been doing some good 3-4 hour stretches which is great, but holy shut getting him down for the first stretch is effing impossible. It has been 2-3 hours per night of feed, rock, put down, start crying 5 minutes later, repeat. It is so frustrating. Currently on round 5 of this. I just want to get in bed.
This is where we are. The last few nights he’s finally getting longer between feeds. Last night he went 2, 4 hr stretches, but he’s not freaking sleeping that whole time. It’s like an hour of rock, bounce, lay down and pop awake angry... so really it’s still only 2-3hrs of sleep for us
Post by Patsy Baloney on Sept 3, 2019 10:28:17 GMT -5
We had a 4 month appointment today, too. DS is climbing up in the weight percentiles, which is making me so happy. He was a big guy when he was born (9lbs) but gained only 12 ounces his first month of life while we were trying to figure out the best way to feed him due to his cleft soft palate. He fell down into the 40-something percentiles and we were on twice-weekly weight checks for the first month. He bumped to the 56th percentile at 2 months, and is now in the 60th for 4 months! That's about where his sister sat for her first year of life, so I feel like we're right where we want to be. Hooray for the MIRACLE of speech therapy. I don't know where we would be without all of their knowledge.
He's also in the 85th for height right now, which feels about right, since when I hold him I swear to god I'm just juggling an octopus with arms and legs and bobble-head everywhere.
We meet with our cleft team on October 7 - speech, ENT, plastic surgery, orthodontics. My 4 month old has a team. I feel like I'm mother to a celebrity, lol. Because the cleft appears to just be in his soft palate, I'm hopeful we won't be too complicated of a case. We've met with his plastic surgeon twice now and he thinks the closure will be straightforward, and we'll spend time with speech to get his talking going and mouth moving correctly, will need the ENT for tubes, but probably no orthodontic work. My wallet is VERY HOPEFUL this is the case.
We started sleep training last night, and then I opened up FB this morning to a novel of a post that a friend of a friend wrote to mommy-shame those who dare to CIO (which, to this person, apparently means anything other than always comforting your child the moment they start fussing, because they neeeeeeeed you and if you don't you're going to ruin them forever and they're going to grow up with attachment and trust issues), and now I feel so guilty on top of all of the ways I'm already feeling awful about the whole thing.
Post by Patsy Baloney on Sept 3, 2019 12:26:08 GMT -5
katespade, if you need to hear it - DO NOT FEEL GUILTY.
I really hope sleep training is an awesome experience for your family. Bedtime, I think, becomes so special when you can do your routine, give lots of hugs and kisses, and kiddo cuddles into their crib for a good night's sleep. Parents get their time back and baby is using their awesome skill of sleep.
A good mom-skill your FB friend-of-a-friend needs to learn is that everyone has what works for them, and it's none of your damn business what it is. She can keep running at every cry and figure out sleep for her kid. You can safely sleep train yours. Haters gonna hate, judgey FB friend-of-a-friend!
Patsy Baloney - Last night was the first night of DD's life that I didn't nurse her to sleep, and I honestly think she handled it better than I did. H took the lead in helping her go to sleep and I hid across the house where I couldn't hear her crying. And then I did a lot of crying. I know that we're going to find new, special moments in our bedtime routine to replace what we're giving up, but it's SO hard. This is my first big last time doing something with her that I'll never get to do again, and I miss it so much already. I know it's the right thing to do for her, but that stupid mommy-shaming post this morning just stabbed right where it hurts the most right now. Ugh.
DD has her 4 month appointment/shots this morning. (She turned 4 months ten days ago, but our pedi was on vacation last week.) Last time she got shots she slept for like 12 hours straight overnight, so I’m sort of hoping that happens again! I could realllllly use a night of uninterrupted sleep.
Also, Week 19 has been a doozy. The Wonder Weeks App is proving very true for us. Her overnight sleep hasn’t really changed, but she is such a stage 5 clinger lately! She used to be content to play alone on her activity mat for like 20 minutes, now she wails after being left alone for more than 2. She is back to just wanting to be held constantly.
My son got his 4 months shots last week and ran a fever for 3 days and has been insanely clingy and everything sets him off. I can’t even bend down towards his mat or the swing. His sleep is horrible too. Took me forever to put him down the last 2 nights. I am not used to the long bedtime routine anymore. And the middle of the night is a nightmare. Then he wakes up before 5 for the day. It’s exhausting. I’m not liking this set of changes. I hope our kids outgrow this fast.
melmaria - Our pedi had the same recommendation. He gave us the go-ahead to introduce solids at 4 months, but said we shouldn't feel pressured to start earlier than we're comfortable with and we should focus on having fun with it. He also said the same thing about the allergens - earlier is better, preferably before 7 months. To be honest, we're a little bit behind because we still haven't introduced all of the. We ended up starting solids at around 5 months, but skipped over cereals and purees and went with the baby-led weaning approach.
Post by Patsy Baloney on Sept 3, 2019 12:47:42 GMT -5
For reflux moms - DS got put on Zantac today! I had noticed he was having clear spit-ups, sometimes kind of projectile, a few hours after his bottles. We've also had a few scary moments where it seemed he spit-up, but nothing came up, and he had kind of a panicked, choking face. He'd give a cough and a good cry, and then would go back to normal. Apparently, he's having some reflux. He's normally a pretty happy guy, so I was a little surprised, but glad. I'd hate to think he's got a fire belly most of the time!
Is Zantac one that goes down ok, or is it like steroids where no amount of flavoring ever makes it palatable to a kid? How long were your kids on it? Did you notice a difference right away?
Post by Patsy Baloney on Sept 3, 2019 12:51:51 GMT -5
I had heard that earlier was better for allergens, but my H didn't report our pediatrician giving the go-ahead to introduce them at this morning's appointment. I'll have to ask if they discussed it.
I eat peanut butter for breakfast every day, so I'm just going to hope DS will do ok with that one, since he's probably gotten it smeared on him accidentally at some point already!
Post by Patsy Baloney on Sept 3, 2019 12:55:04 GMT -5
katespade, I'm a second-time mom, and that sentimentality/nostalgia never goes away. The ache for something you can't have again can be unbearable, but it's amazing all of the firsts-and-lasts you'll do with her. My H and I were just talking about DD (she's in 1st grade now) and how we can't believe she was once the same size and age as DS.
I'm working through my own sleep stuff now - I need to start setting DS down to sleep after I sing him his lullaby (just like I did his sister), so he can start learning to settle himself down, but he's so little. Just one more night, maybe. Or maybe we can start that at 5 months. Or six. Seven? I'm totally going to have a sleep monster, lol.
For reflux moms - DS got put on Zantac today! I had noticed he was having clear spit-ups, sometimes kind of projectile, a few hours after his bottles. We've also had a few scary moments where it seemed he spit-up, but nothing came up, and he had kind of a panicked, choking face. He'd give a cough and a good cry, and then would go back to normal. Apparently, he's having some reflux. He's normally a pretty happy guy, so I was a little surprised, but glad. I'd hate to think he's got a fire belly most of the time!
Is Zantac one that goes down ok, or is it like steroids where no amount of flavoring ever makes it palatable to a kid? How long were your kids on it? Did you notice a difference right away?
Ds3 was on it for a week with very little improvement but he did take it with no issue. I highly recommend this for giving babies meds
Post by Patsy Baloney on Sept 3, 2019 13:49:53 GMT -5
namasteak, so that seems relatively quick that we should probably notice any difference, if there is one to be had. What's your DS3 on now, if you don't mind me asking?
Post by dreamcrisp1 on Sept 3, 2019 15:53:23 GMT -5
My newborn is so new that he’s still in that good phase and I’m nervous waiting for the non-good phase that I know is coming to come. Hopefully we get some more days of this good phase while I heal a bit.
namasteak, so that seems relatively quick that we should probably notice any difference, if there is one to be had. What's your DS3 on now, if you don't mind me asking?
Nothing. The ENT who dx the reflux put him in Zantac until we could see a GI about a week later. She took him off because it wasn’t working and suggested a formula switch since she discovered he has CMPI. The reflux is still there but when we went to his follow she said he didn’t need meds because he is doing much better even if it’s not all gone.
My newborn is so new that he’s still in that good phase and I’m nervous waiting for the non-good phase that I know is coming to come. Hopefully we get some more days of this good phase while I heal a bit.
Congratulations!
Edit; just read your birth story. Oh my goodness what an ordeal. Glad you are okay now and baby is well. Hope you recover quickly!
Post by lovelyshoes on Sept 3, 2019 20:14:15 GMT -5
First day of daycare and work was rough on us. I’m currently in hour 3 of trying to put him to bed. I am losing my mind. He won’t fell asleep and I have so much to do to prepare for tomorrow. He’s nursing nonstop. I’m Pissed at daycare. He had 3 1/2 oz bottles and two of them were barely eaten and they said he didn’t want anymore. Maybe it’s wasting from a new person, but I’m having a hard time believing he ate only a bit over an ounce twice. The last bottle she said he cried for more. Of course he did, he barely ate all day. I miss him so much and this broke my heart. I don’t want him to be hungry. I’m going tomorrow to talk to the main teacher. Of course I’ll be late for work again.
lovelyshoes, I have heard from many of my working mom friends that their baby hardly ate/slept the first few days at daycare but that it *does* get better. It’s a big change for them. I hope things get better for you ASAP!
I would definitely speak to your daycare provider about trying to reoffer the bottle before dumping milk. I think once a baby has drunk from a bottle you can leave it out and use it again for up to 2 hours? Or, send more bottles with fewer ounces per bottle to avoid waste, at least until your little one gets used to eating at daycare.
Thank you! This is my second, and it’s still hard. I have to give them a chance, but he looked so sad today. It broke my heart. He didn’t give me his usual smile when he saw me. I’m going to ask her to reoffer the bottle. I need to know he ate. I also came home and spilled milk. I nearly cried.
lovelyshoes Oh man. I’m sorry you both are having a rough day.
I am quite thankful that we’ve gotten so many additional hand me down bibs from friends. DS is much more of a happy spitter than DD was. He apparently also has marvelous timing since he decided to spit up as I was typing this.
lovelyshoes I’m so sorry Day 1 was rough. My second only took 3oz the whole first day. I was a mess. It did get better but man it was so hard and emotional. Dd3 starts next month and I’m dreading it. I hope day 2 is better.
Dropped DD off for her first day of daycare this morning 😭 she was all smiles when I left, but I feel like I should have stuck around longer to make sure she was ok and now I feel like a bad mom. I don't know how to do this.
Dropped DD off for her first day of daycare this morning 😭 she was all smiles when I left, but I feel like I should have stuck around longer to make sure she was ok and now I feel like a bad mom. I don't know how to do this.
Hugs, not a bad mom. It’s so great that she was smiling. I hope that she’s having a great day and that your day improves. Drop offs are hard.
pandorica, never stick around at drop off, that just makes it harder on you both.
Thank you for this. I think I knew this, but it was harder than I expected. I can't wait to pick her up!
Ditto. You never stick around. That makes it harder for the kid instead of easier. "Bye baby I love you I'll pick you up later!" Kiss and out the door. She will cry sometimes, count on it. They go through phases. But most of the time, she'll be all smiles like today.
Dropped DD off for her first day of daycare this morning 😭 she was all smiles when I left, but I feel like I should have stuck around longer to make sure she was ok and now I feel like a bad mom. I don't know how to do this.
Hugs, not a bad mom. It’s so great that she was smiling. I hope that she’s having a great day and that your day improves. Drop offs are hard.