Hence the whistleblower coming forward because of aforementioned head explosion!
I’m aghast at the flipping spin & if I see John Neely Kennedy on one more MSNBC/ CNN show both-side comparing Hunter Biden with this corrupt BS my head might, literally, explode.
Exactly, it’s a false equivalence. 1) Hunter Biden is not a sitting president nor is he currently running for president. 2) Both parties can be wrong. The Bidens can be wrong (and truthfully, I hope that whole family takes a seat now) and Trump can also be very, very wrong. And two wrongs don’t make a right here.
There is also no evidence of any wrongdoing. Both Ukraine and the US investigated this and found nothing. Yet the message out there now is that Biden did something wrong. Why do they beat us on messaging every single time?
Exactly, it’s a false equivalence. 1) Hunter Biden is not a sitting president nor is he currently running for president. 2) Both parties can be wrong. The Bidens can be wrong (and truthfully, I hope that whole family takes a seat now) and Trump can also be very, very wrong. And two wrongs don’t make a right here.
There is also no evidence of any wrongdoing. Both Ukraine and the US investigated this and found nothing. Yet the message out there now is that Biden did something wrong. Why do they beat us on messaging every single time?
I really don't think the Republicans are that much stronger on messaging. It's because the press has to "both sides" everything, so it doesn't look like they're taking a side. It's absolutely ridiculous.
Post by Bad Dingo on Sept 25, 2019 10:07:12 GMT -5
They spelled Zelensky wrong in the OFFICIAL transcript. The whole transcript sounds like Trump wrote it. Z made sure to point out that he stayed at Trump Tower when he visited NYC. Trump not only asked for Biden to be investigated, but asked for the DNC servers that he heard Ukraine had possession of. HOW IS ANY OF THIS OK?
I can't even function any more, I can only sit around in a stunned, confused, mumbling stupor.
Post by carmenere on Sept 25, 2019 10:10:30 GMT -5
Zelensky: We want to buy javelin missiles Trump: I want you to do me a favor and investigate the Bidens
Corrupt af.
Comparatively unimportant: it sounded like Zelensky had to explain to Trump that he didn't just win a presidential election (his party won the parliamentary election). What an idiot.
Also, did anyone catch the part where Trump said that the former ambassador to Ukraine (Maria Yovanovitch, whose name he got wrong) is "going to go through some things"??
Interesting that the transcript said he'd have Guiliani and Barr talk to Zelensky further. Guiliani has been flapping his trap about this for a week, and if Barr was involved, he would have said so. I gotta wonder if Barr was like, "no sir, that's too much criming, even for me."
OMG and did they spell Zelensky wrong or is it supposed to be spelled with two y's??
No. No, it is not spelled with two Ys.
And this is why Betsy DeVos is in charge of education.
I'm going to confirm in a few but it may not be wrong. When you transliterate from Cyrillic, there are some sounds/letters that can be written in multiple ways in the Roman alphabet. I am honestly not sure what Zelensky favors himself but I have seen a double-y at the end before. It could still be wrong though, I'm just not ready to jump on that just yet.
And this is why Betsy DeVos is in charge of education.
I'm going to confirm in a few but it may not be wrong. When you transliterate from Cyrillic, there are some sounds/letters that can be written in multiple ways in the Roman alphabet. I am honestly not sure what Zelensky favors himself but I have seen a double-y at the end before. It could still be wrong though, I'm just not ready to jump on that just yet.
#totallynotthepointjustimpeachthemotherfucker
To be fair, I am purely going by a Google search. I didn't pick up on the misspelling myself because I don't actually have any idea how his name is spelled.
Post by Velar Fricative on Sept 25, 2019 10:28:36 GMT -5
Actually, it's officially Zelenskyy on his English-language governmental website since June. His spokesperson confirmed it but he isn't offended by Zelensky in the media (but I'm always personally a fan of sticking to what the person actually prefers). But that's okay, we have no shortage of things to be pissed off at the WH about!
"Dear colleagues, this [Zelenskyy] is the official form of the last name that the President has in his passport. This was decided by the passport service of Ukraine. The President won’t be offended if BBC standards assume different transliteration"
If you are just waking up and scrolling through the news the headlines don’t say “Transcript shows no quid pro!!!” They all say “Transcript shows Trump pressures Ukraine on Biden Investigation.” That is damning alone! But we know only the beginning!
I just realized, this was their getting ahead of the message material. This was the best they could give us to stomp on expectations.
That means the whistleblower information is going to be particularly damaging. This is what they used to get ahead of it and control public expectations.
So the transcript implicates Barr and Colludy Rudy in Trump's little plan to get Ukraine to do their election dirty work. If we get to watch Kamala question these two under oath? Counting.the.minutes.
So the transcript implicates Barr and Colludy Rudy in Trump's little plan to get Ukraine to do their election dirty work. If we get to watch Kamala question these two under oath? Counting.the.minutes.
I just realized, this was their getting ahead of the message material. This was the best they could give us to stomp on expectations.
That means the whistleblower information is going to be particularly damaging. This is what they used to get ahead of it and control public expectations.
YES. Their spin is about how he didn’t overtly articulate a quid pro quo. I haven’t heard anything (yet) saying that the actual request /what he asked them to do is a-ok.
So the transcript implicates Barr and Colludy Rudy in Trump's little plan to get Ukraine to do their election dirty work. If we get to watch Kamala question these two under oath? Counting.the.minutes.
The house is running the investigation.
It's my dream that my Rep, Katie Porter gets to question them (I don't think she's on the right committees so I realize that's never going to happen but it would be amazing).
Also, did anyone catch the part where Trump said that the former ambassador to Ukraine (Maria Yovanovitch, whose name he got wrong) is "going to go through some things"??
Yes, yes I sure did. From his mouth that is fucking sinister.