Why would this come out now? Because Warren is dead in the water and she and her campaign are grasping at straws. I don’t believe in the least this is how this went down, and I’ve lost a lot of respect for Warren for doing it.
Why would this come out now? Because Warren is dead in the water and she and her campaign are grasping at straws. I don’t believe in the least this is how this went down, and I’ve lost a lot of respect for Warren for doing it.
Someone drank the koolaid. Do you even hear yourself? This is ridiculous.
I'll tell you, this spat is getting me fired up for Warren, so if the haters are right and this is just some calculating move by a duplicitous, shrill old lady hellbent on grabbing power whatever the cost, it still fucking worked.
fuck men. Gimme a billionaire hating T-shirt. I'm with her.
Also seriously do not care if this was all a plan by her to gain ground from behind. Maybe it was. Whatever! I welcome this moment. It's high time Bernie gets vetted.
ESF , "Ol' Saint Maple Walnut" has me cackling at my desk.
His campaign 100% started this. Whatever.
Oh I completely believe this was all his campaign. I'm just saying that the people calling her out for it aren't really making the point they think they are making. There's a LOT of people that want to see Bernie go down in flames and have been itching for other democrats to really come for him.
ESF , "Ol' Saint Maple Walnut" has me cackling at my desk.
His campaign 100% started this. Whatever.
Oh I completely believe this was all his campaign. I'm just saying that the people calling her out for it aren't really making the point they think they are making. There's a LOT of people that want to see Bernie go down in flames and have been itching for other democrats to really come for him.
I COMPLETELY agree with you! Sorry if that wasn't clear.
I think I’ll just reply to every Bro who says they will stay home if Warren or anyone but Bernie gets the nom with “Does a 7-2 Conservative SCOTUS for the rest of your life sound like a better alternative?” Because I’m really sick of people not caring about the big picture.
Most of the Bros I've encountered are cis white men, so a 7-2 conservative SCOTUS doesn't impact them* all that much.
* Except for things like mass shootings and weed, but unless they own guns or get high, that's all still part of the "big picture" that they don't seem to give a damn about.
After I posted here, I encountered a tweet with the #RefundWarren hashtag from someone I realized I went to school with. And you’re exactly right...cis white male Bernie Bros aren’t moved by SCOTUS because they are safe.
Why would this come out now? Because Warren is dead in the water and she and her campaign are grasping at straws. I don’t believe in the least this is how this went down, and I’ve lost a lot of respect for Warren for doing it.
Bernie Sanders is the one who has said multiple times that you can’t just say, “I’m a woman, vote for me,” even though literally no woman has ever said that’s THE reason you should vote for her. He wrote rape fantasy essays IN HIS THIRTIES. His 2016 campaign didn’t have a SINGLE WOMAN among his top 10 paid staffers.
A tweet (so hiding) but sharing because of how it conveys my anger & frustration so Spot Freakin’ On & might fill others with comfort that we’re not the only ones who understand:
I'll tell you, this spat is getting me fired up for Warren, so if the haters are right and this is just some calculating move by a duplicitous, shrill old lady hellbent on grabbing power whatever the cost, it still fucking worked.
fuck men. Gimme a billionaire hating T-shirt. I'm with her.
She has said she is fine with billionaires existing, but she has the best shirt, so. VOTES TIME!
I think I’ll just reply to every Bro who says they will stay home if Warren or anyone but Bernie gets the nom with “Does a 7-2 Conservative SCOTUS for the rest of your life sound like a better alternative?” Because I’m really sick of people not caring about the big picture.
Most of the Bros I've encountered are cis white men, so a 7-2 conservative SCOTUS doesn't impact them* all that much.
* Except for things like mass shootings and weed, but unless they own guns or get high, that's all still part of the "big picture" that they don't seem to give a damn about.
They don't care. If you think about voting for anyone but Bernie you're a neo-liberal corporate shill who supports the ESTABLISHMENT.
This shit is why, despite my significant other suggesting i lay off following politics to help my sanity.... this is why we need to stay involved and engaged.
Why would this come out now? Because Warren is dead in the water and she and her campaign are grasping at straws. I don’t believe in the least this is how this went down, and I’ve lost a lot of respect for Warren for doing it.
I have seen this narrative all over twitter and I have yet to see evidence for it. This is what the source you linked says about him "begging" her to run...
“Somebody had to do it, and if somebody else did it, fine,” Press said. “If Elizabeth Warren had run, I’m pretty confident in saying Bernie Sanders never would have run.”
From a radio host who interviewed him before his 2016 run. This doesn't even indicate Bernie talked to her about running let alone begged her to.
Why would this come out now? Because Warren is dead in the water and she and her campaign are grasping at straws. I don’t believe in the least this is how this went down, and I’ve lost a lot of respect for Warren for doing it.
I have seen this narrative all over twitter and I have yet to see evidence for it. This is what the source you linked says about him "begging" her to run...
“Somebody had to do it, and if somebody else did it, fine,” Press said. “If Elizabeth Warren had run, I’m pretty confident in saying Bernie Sanders never would have run.”
From a radio host who interviewed him before his 2016 run. This doesn't even indicate Bernie talked to her about running let alone begged her to.
It's revisionist history at its worst. And honestly if the only reason he ran in 2016 is because the field was slim and no one else was running, what is his excuse this year? If Elizabeth Warren is an acceptable substitute, why not just drop out when it was clear she was running this time?
Why would this come out now? Because Warren is dead in the water and she and her campaign are grasping at straws. I don’t believe in the least this is how this went down, and I’ve lost a lot of respect for Warren for doing it.
Did you even read this article? Do you even know what “literally” means?
I'll tell you, this spat is getting me fired up for Warren, so if the haters are right and this is just some calculating move by a duplicitous, shrill old lady hellbent on grabbing power whatever the cost, it still fucking worked.
fuck men. Gimme a billionaire hating T-shirt. I'm with her.
She has said she is fine with billionaires existing, but she has the best shirt, so. VOTES TIME!
Thank you, erose.
In real life, I don't know any cult-of-personality-don't-bother-with-the-substance-only-the-superficial Bernie bros. But thanks to your posts today I now understand people on this board better. I only personally saw this type of fact free Bernie obsession in the last election season.
I'll tell you, this spat is getting me fired up for Warren, so if the haters are right and this is just some calculating move by a duplicitous, shrill old lady hellbent on grabbing power whatever the cost, it still fucking worked.
fuck men. Gimme a billionaire hating T-shirt. I'm with her.
Right? If you're going to say stupid sexist shit you'd best be prepared to be called out on it. I'm flabbergasted that people are pissed that Warren didn't just put up and shut up like apparently women are supposed to do when men run their mouths. Bernie could've kept his nonsense to himself and avoided the whole situation, but no, this is all Warren's fault.
She has said she is fine with billionaires existing, but she has the best shirt, so. VOTES TIME!
Thank you, erose.
In real life, I don't know any cult-of-personality-don't-bother-with-the-substance-only-the-superficial Bernie bros. But thanks to your posts today I now understand people on this board better. I only personally saw this type of fact free Bernie obsession in the last election season.
If you think this is bad, imagine if we actually talked about the gulf in their policies.
In real life, I don't know any cult-of-personality-don't-bother-with-the-substance-only-the-superficial Bernie bros. But thanks to your posts today I now understand people on this board better. I only personally saw this type of fact free Bernie obsession in the last election season.
If you think this is bad, imagine if we actually talked about the gulf in their policies.
Like how when Bernie is not voting for gun manufacturer immunity or environmental racism, he shouts out talking points, the substance of which he's never questioned on, but Warren needs to produce a white paper of research and numbers on every idea she's ever uttered only be to smeared as both a centrist and a budget-busting commie?
In real life, I don't know any cult-of-personality-don't-bother-with-the-substance-only-the-superficial Bernie bros. But thanks to your posts today I now understand people on this board better. I only personally saw this type of fact free Bernie obsession in the last election season.
If you think this is bad, imagine if we actually talked about the gulf in their policies.
Do you actually contribute anything of substance here? So far in this thread you've made baseless and false claims, posted an article you snatched from google, and misrepresented the content of that article, all while refusing to engage substantively with any posters who have responded to you or with any of our other posts on this subject.
I could talk policy ALL DAY LONG but I'm not going to do it with someone who is engaging in bad faith, which you appear to be.
In real life, I don't know any cult-of-personality-don't-bother-with-the-substance-only-the-superficial Bernie bros. But thanks to your posts today I now understand people on this board better. I only personally saw this type of fact free Bernie obsession in the last election season.
If you think this is bad, imagine if we actually talked about the gulf in their policies.
Like how Warren released a student loan forgiveness plan that was progressive but also reasonable, with caps on income and amount forgiven, to ensure that the benefits mostly went to the middle class?
And then Sanders released a policy a few days later of "Loan forgiveness for everybody!1!1!", even though it would cost twice as much, and most of the increased cost would benefit the wealthy?
In real life, I don't know any cult-of-personality-don't-bother-with-the-substance-only-the-superficial Bernie bros. But thanks to your posts today I now understand people on this board better. I only personally saw this type of fact free Bernie obsession in the last election season.
If you think this is bad, imagine if we actually talked about the gulf in their policies.
Did Warren vote to send nuclear waste to a poor predominately Hispanic town in Texas?
If you think this is bad, imagine if we actually talked about the gulf in their policies.
Do you actually contribute anything of substance here? So far in this thread you've made baseless and false claims, posted an article you snatched from google, and misrepresented the content of that article, all while refusing to engage substantively with any posters who have responded to you or with any of our other posts on this subject.
I could talk policy ALL DAY LONG but I'm not going to do it with someone who is engaging in bad faith, which you appear to be.
Not a single one of you is capable of anything but a bad faith argument when it comes to Bernie.
This is why Democrats will continue to lose. Largely affluent liberals are a menace. At least republicans are honest. Liberals act like they actually give a shit about people and then continue to vote for oligarchs. Have fun with that.