I haven’t read the whole thread so this has probably been discussed but I was really sad about Diamond’s reaction to Carlton’s sexuality. I’ve been in his position and it would’ve wrecked me if my H responded like that.
Except Carlton had tons of time to tell her before meeting and didn’t. And when he did tell her, he didn’t even give her a second to process it. He freaked out on her.
But he did a very genuine apology to her on the reunion.
He was saying some very not nice things about her on IG, he apologized to her when she called him on it, he kept saying mean stuff on IG, she found out again and cut communication with him, then he apologies at the reunion show with a ring? Why a ring? For sympathy points from viewers is my guess. He treated her horribly on the Mexico trip and was throwing red flags everywhere. That guy is toxic and manipulative AF and I hope she doesn’t buy another fake apology and just cuts contact for good.
Except Carlton had tons of time to tell her before meeting and didn’t. And when he did tell her, he didn’t even give her a second to process it. He freaked out on her.
But he did a very genuine apology to her on the reunion.
He was saying some very not nice things about her on IG, he apologized to her when she called him on it, he kept saying mean stuff on IG, she found out again and cut communication with him, then he apologies at the reunion show with a ring? Why a ring? For sympathy points from viewers is my guess. He treated her horribly on the Mexico trip and was throwing red flags everywhere. That guy is toxic and manipulative AF and I hope she doesn’t buy another fake apology and just cuts contact for good.
I don’t follow any drama outside the show, so it seemed genuine to me. 🤷🏼♀️
I don’t think she has any desire to have a relationship with him.
I’m not at the wedding episode(s) yet but I’m getting bored with it. Cameron, Lauren, Kenny, and Diamond set a high bar for partner potential. Barnett ended up redeeming himself into future potential. Everyone else just needs to go find therapists. Kelly is a lower key Jessica. I can respect her ability to keep her cards closer to her chest.
I also dated guys like Mark so that must be why I’m reacting so strongly to him. It isn’t sweet, it’s codependent. I felt for Jessica when she wanted to go back to pod life, where he wasn’t smothering her. The age difference was the one thing she could latch on to that wasn’t personal - I think she was aware enough to know that she didn’t want to savage his personality on TV. Knowing he had a girlfriend IRL makes me madder that she got the bitch edit.
Post by litskispeciality on Mar 11, 2020 15:08:00 GMT -5
Bah I finally finished...what a let down! I was a little shocked by Kelly and whoever, and Gia and Damian, but not really. G and D are a bad match. I think he's attractive, but he's just as dramatic, just let's G do all the camera drama. I could totally see her just wanting more reality tv fame.
After reading some of the comments about Jessica I'll give her a little pass, but I have to feel like some of it's there naturally. I've always felt she wasn't that into Mahk from the beginning, she just wanted to stay on the show. It's interesting to see that they were contractually bound to make it to a wedding. I kinda feel like the should have let them choose to host a wedding, don't waste the guests time, but then it wouldn't be as interesting?
I don't like Amber's blond hair, it's not really a good look for her.
I'm glad they hosted the reunion a year later, I hate when they do it right after.
Last thing, did Mark have a girlfriend during the show and didn't disclose? I saw a comment above and now I'm curious.
I have no idea how to link, but if you need a laugh during this pandemic, find Leslie Jones on Twitter talking about this show. She was done after about 10 min, but I think she’s giving it a second chance.
Amber was being very strange about Mark. She always came across as a pick me. I want to like her and Barnett but she was reaching a lot defending Mark about the LC situation.
And Damian bringing the Too Hot to Handle girl was dumb.
I watched. What the heck is Gi still doing with Damian? He's obviously got one foot out the door and frankly she could do so much better.
I don't like Amber. She's 100% the kind of woman who can't be friends with other women. I also don't like Barnett because I got the impression he liked all the attention Jessica was giving him and that he enjoyed creating drama between 2 women.
Still love Lauren and Cameron together. They are adorable and I love how their families have come together too.
I watched it and my thoughts are: Giannina is much more invested in the relationship than Damian. He acts like a victim in their situation, wonders at why it doesn't work, when the element that doesn't work in their relationship is him. Also, He couldn't acknowledge his hurtful behavior at the reunion.
Cameron really loves Lauren and it is so sweet to see, and Lauren receives that love in a very warm way, but their dynamic seems a little imbalanced. She called him her baby and that rang true; he seems more tender and vulnerable than she is. It must work for them.
Jessica was looking for redemption and forgiveness; I didn't see that that really happened.
The single people were all sad to me. They all seemed to be longing for love and were all loose ends in that regard. They were all pretty equal. I hope the love they are looking for finds them or they find it.
This show seemed poorly crafted. The way they put people together was awkward. The birthday dinner for Lauren. Damian's lunch out. Giannina and Jessica getting ready for the reunion. I think a documentary-style look at their actual lives would have been more authentic. I thought the individual interviews provided the most insight and the get togethers rang false.
One more thought I have is how disgusted I was at the way Amber's MIL spoke to her about accepting her lack of agency in choosing when to have a baby. That was nasty patriarchal bullshit if I ever heard any.
I have watched 1.5 episodes and it feels painfully contrived.
I loathe Damian, but I find Gianna so obnoxiously dramatic, so it is difficult to be sympathetic. They need to go their separate ways and grow up.
I really don’t like Barnett, but I found myself on his side more than Amber’s in the baby discussion. But WTF with his mother saying he gets the final say because he is head of the household. Gross.
Overall, I simultaneously hate this show and look forward to watching the rest of it tonight!
Also, Jessica's surgeon boyfriend is thirsty as hell on Instagram, someone she'd been with for maybe 3-4 months when they filmed, a podiatrist, and--let me say it again--thirsty as HELL on insta. As in shirtless photos of himself doing push-ups with one of his (admittedly cute) kids on his back.
I’m not quite sure I saw true love in either couple after 2 years. Amber and Barnett don’t seem to have gotten far, just sort of treading water as a couple.
I would have liked more updates in general. I did not get the Mark drama. Who cares?
I said at the end of the season “if I ever see Jess cry again it’ll be too soon.” Yet here I am, watching this bitch cry…4 times??
Damian and Gia need to break up for good and move on. They are a toxic dumpster fire. Francesca showing up for a fancy party in beige yoga pants and a giant fleece sweatshirt was…just excellent. She touches her hair so much and it drives me crazy.
I was honestly surprised to hear about Mark and LC. Mark seems like quite the family man on insta, but who knows what’s actually happening.
Cameron and Lauren are very sweet but it’s clear he’s super comfortable in his emotions and she’s not. It makes for awkward moments.
Barnett’s mom’s comment about how he’s the “head of the household” made me gag.
Also, Jessica's surgeon boyfriend is thirsty as hell on Instagram, someone she'd been with for maybe 3-4 months when they filmed, a podiatrist, and--let me say it again--thirsty as HELL on insta. As in shirtless photos of himself doing push-ups with one of his (admittedly cute) kids on his back.
I’m always ready to mock dudes who seem like they’re looking for fame but that pic was at the beach and it was more than a year ago. I was expecting much worse haha.
Damian and Gia need to break up for good and move on. They are a toxic dumpster fire. Francesca showing up for a fancy party in beige yoga pants and a giant fleece sweatshirt was…just excellent. She touches her hair so much and it drives me crazy.
That and the blinking. She seems super fake to me and like they just planted her into this storyline for drama. Unless Damian wanted to break up with GiGi by embarrassing her, there was absolutely no reason to bring her into this at all.
Still can’t stand Amber. Watching Barnet walk on eggshells is cringe. Also, she made zero sense arguing with Diamond and LC.
I was reminded that Damian is just as awful as Giannina. She’s extremely immature, but looks like his gaslighting only fans the flames. He’s worst in this situation by pulling his manipulative BS with her. They need a permanent break from each other.
Cameron and Lauren are cute together, but I wonder what she really thinks about his emotional personality. It would wear me down.
I was so happy to see Kenny so happy with his fiancé! They were cute together.
Also, Jessica's surgeon boyfriend is thirsty as hell on Instagram, someone she'd been with for maybe 3-4 months when they filmed, a podiatrist, and--let me say it again--thirsty as HELL on insta. As in shirtless photos of himself doing push-ups with one of his (admittedly cute) kids on his back.
I’m always ready to mock dudes who seem like they’re looking for fame but that pic was at the beach and it was more than a year ago. I was expecting much worse haha.
I saw several! Also, I fully admit that I am 100% convinced that anyone willing to date Jessica must be as thirsty as she is.
Still can’t stand Amber. Watching Barnet walk on eggshells is cringe. Also, she made zero sense arguing with Diamond and LC.
I was reminded that Damian is just as awful as Giannina. She’s extremely immature, but looks like his gaslighting only fans the flames. He’s worst in this situation by pulling his manipulative BS with her. They need a permanent break from each other.
Cameron and Lauren are cute together, but I wonder what she really thinks about his emotional personality. It would wear me down.
I was so happy to see Kenny so happy with his fiancé! They were cute together.
Damian is a serious gaslighter. He brought Fran and then tried to convince G he did it to show her they were only friends and it was a harmless relationship. Except!!!he told Fran that they could go as friends and see where it landed at the end of the night. He’s a piece of shit. G is whiny and immature but she could do so much better.
I love Cam and Lauren. I get defensive when people say she’s not into him bc she isn’t overly emotional like he is. They have different personality types and I think they are well suited.
I was happy to see Kenny happy.
Diamond needs to do some work on herself. She’s a mess. Carleton too.
I think amber and Barnett are a good match. I don’t particularly like either of them but they seem to make it work. It was cringe when he avoided Jessica bc he made it so much about how he was told he couldn’t talk to her instead of being an adult and just not engaging. He could have respected Amber’s boundary without throwing her under the bus. I wouldn’t want to socialize with Jessica either.
The mark storyline was was too much. He’s a player. Ok. Move on.
Post by thedutchgirl on Jul 31, 2021 12:13:58 GMT -5
I binged the follow-up episodes last night, and I totally agree with everyone. Damian is awful. I'm sure some of it is producer shenanigans, but his gaslighting of G was horrible.
Amber and Barnett are perfect trash for each other.
I actually sort of respect Mark for not going, but he's also a shady guy.
And I just kept being shocked that Jessica is only 36, and probably only 35 when this was filmed--late June birthday. Stay out of tanning beds, folks! I'm 43 and I look younger than she does.
Yeah, Jessica looks like she has aged a lot in the last couple of years. I guess stress can do that to you, though. She probably had a rough year last year after the show came out. I am surprised she is still insisting that she was in love with Mark at one point. Maybe she was, but they sure didn't make that very convincing on the show.
Amber and Barnett do seem like a good match. I don't want to hang out with either of them, but they seem to have fun together and are both a lot to handle, which might be hard if they tried to be with someone who was less like that.