Article: “The Karen who cried kidnapping.” @related content

[jeaniebueller]

www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/a39589245/the-karen-who-cried-kidnapping/


This is why I’m always so skeptical of any social media story where a mom (usually white) is breathlessly reporting that her kids were ‘almost’ kidnapped.

[ECB]

I’m skeptical about a LOT of social media posts. People care more about selling their “brand” (whatever that brand is) than telling the truth.

This woman deserves everything they can find to charge her with. She could have really destroyed these peoples lives.

[underwaterrhymes]

White women commandeering the human trafficking movement infuriates me.

Human trafficking is a real and awful thing. But, as the article points out, it’s mostly economically and socially vulnerable children who are trafficked by people known to them, not strangers taking white kids from a Target parking lot. Instead of focusing on the very real problem and working to provide widely available community resources and services that would actually combat human trafficking, they instead make up stories to center themselves and their privileged children in some false narrative, which actually does further harm.

[maudefindlay]

I've seen these posts on local community FB pages and never believe them. They are always written so erratically with so much over the top emotion and definitely more imagined scenarios than actual events. Sadie and Eddie deserve all the good things. They are to be commended for their response and for actively working towards making change.

[Velar Fricative]

She picked the wrong people to go after (because she probably assumed that brown skin = no way they have the means to fight back legally). But...what if she didn't? What if the people she targeted didn't have the means to hire a lawyer, join a community group, or have a network of friends that can help? This was already awful enough for the Martinez family who had all of that ability, so it would have been even more destructive to the lives of people who wouldn't have been able to do anything about it.

It is incredible how much attention certain social media accounts/posts get. Reminds me of how "Plandemic" got so much attention so quickly.

[missva]

Most trafficking is actually forced / underpaid work from (typically) undocumented immigrants. This whole save the children thing, or "watch out white women, people will snatch your children from under your car" crap infuriates me because it detracts from the actual issues.

[wanderingback]

Apr 11, 2022 8:01:44 GMT -5 missva said:

Most "trafficking" is actually forced / underpaid work from (typically) undocumented immigrants. This whole save the children thing, or "watch out white women, people will snatch your children from under your car" crap infuriates me because it detracts from the actual issues.

Why did you put trafficking in quotes?

[kath16]

i very much appreciate the acronym she helped picked for the CAREN Act

[missva]

Apr 11, 2022 8:05:05 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

Apr 11, 2022 8:01:44 GMT -5 missva said:

Most "trafficking" is actually forced / underpaid work from (typically) undocumented immigrants. This whole save the children thing, or "watch out white women, people will snatch your children from under your car" crap infuriates me because it detracts from the actual issues.

Why did you put trafficking in quotes?

I shouldn't have. Edited.

[Deleted]

I think pulling attention and resources away from the underserved populations most affected by human trafficking is EXACTLY why rich white women do this kind of shit.

[AJL]

Fuck this woman. I hope she's prosecuted to the fullest extent. I hate this white victim bullshit.

[ECB]

Oh! You want to be even more angry? I found this:

www.gofundme.com/f/dzfj3-legal-support-for-katie

THANK GOD they only raised $2,300 out of the $50k they asked for, but isn't this even more entitled, white-woman tears behavior?!?! She's the fucking instigator and her mother is still painting her to be the victim when she almost RUINED this other family's lives.

[shauni27]

Apr 11, 2022 9:28:44 GMT -5 ECB said:

Oh! You want to be even more angry? I found this:

www.gofundme.com/f/dzfj3-legal-support-for-katie

THANK GOD they only raised $2,300 out of the $50k they asked for, but isn't this even more entitled, white-woman tears behavior?!?! She's the fucking instigator and her mother is still painting her to be the victim when she almost RUINED this other family's lives.

I saw this when I was googling for information about this crazy woman. I could not believe it.

[bronxgirl]

So disturbing how this woman targeted innocent strangers to boost her crappy blog with white women tears and fear mongering. I can only imagine how many similar victims there may be who don't have the resources the Martinez family does. It's refreshing to hear that this women is facing legal charges, I hope that she's convicted and sentenced appropriately. And it's pretty damn disgusting that her mother is playing along with her victim crap.

[Deleted]

This bitch must have had the generic white woman check list she worked through:

Tries to make money as an influencer - Check
MLM pusher - Check
Rachel Hollis fan - Check

[StrawberryBlondie]

Every single time I have commented on a "story" on social media that, no, that person wasn't following you to kidnap and traffic your kid from Ikea last weekend, someone responds with "you never know, you can never be too careful." Or "but it's near a freeway, so a known trafficking corridor.

Ma'am, we live in the suburbs. Everywhere is near a freeway.

[frlcb]

Apr 11, 2022 12:51:36 GMT -5 StrawberryBlondie said:

Every single time I have commented on a "story" on social media that, no, that person wasn't following you to kidnap and traffic your kid from Ikea last weekend, someone responds with "you never know, you can never be too careful." Or "but it's near a freeway, so a known trafficking corridor.

Ma'am, we live in the suburbs. Everywhere is near a freeway.

Same. I always point out that this is not how trafficking works. People aren't snatching young white toddlers from stores. If that was actually happening it would be ALL over the news all the time. Instead, sadly, the real trafficking victims are rarely mentioned, which is why they are targeted in the first place most likely. 

[quesyrah]

Apr 11, 2022 12:51:36 GMT -5 StrawberryBlondie said:

Every single time I have commented on a "story" on social media that, no, that person wasn't following you to kidnap and traffic your kid from Ikea last weekend, someone responds with "you never know, you can never be too careful." Or "but it's near a freeway, so a known trafficking corridor.

Ma'am, we live in the suburbs. Everywhere is near a freeway.

Same! The “you can never be too careful” response drives me nuts. Of course you should be aware of your surroundings! That’s common sense. But suburban shopping centers are pretty safe.

I remember when this happened and saw her videos before she deleted them.

One of the worst parts of these mom influencer stories are all of the other people who share the story and then go on to share some “scary incident” that happened to them to prove that this is a bigger issue than it is (not human trafficking, affluent white women’s children being targets). My favorite was the person who said a man at Panera asked her how old her kid was. Every interaction with strangers is not a kidnapping attempt!

[basilosaurus]

Apr 11, 2022 12:51:36 GMT -5 StrawberryBlondie said:

Every single time I have commented on a "story" on social media that, no, that person wasn't following you to kidnap and traffic your kid from Ikea last weekend, someone responds with "you never know, you can never be too careful." Or "but it's near a freeway, so a known trafficking corridor.

Ma'am, we live in the suburbs. Everywhere is near a freeway.

You know "trust your gut" is on that bingo card. 

My sister once said this to me with a straight face. I about had a conniption. 

[bronxgirl]

Apr 11, 2022 13:41:12 GMT -5 basilosaurus said:

Apr 11, 2022 12:51:36 GMT -5 StrawberryBlondie said:

Every single time I have commented on a "story" on social media that, no, that person wasn't following you to kidnap and traffic your kid from Ikea last weekend, someone responds with "you never know, you can never be too careful." Or "but it's near a freeway, so a known trafficking corridor.

Ma'am, we live in the suburbs. Everywhere is near a freeway.

You know "trust your gut" is on that bingo card. 

My sister once said this to me with a straight face. I about had a conniption. 

You have to add, Momma to the end.
"Trust your gut, Momma"

so annoying.

[StrawberryBlondie]

Apr 11, 2022 13:12:29 GMT -5 quesyrah said:

Apr 11, 2022 12:51:36 GMT -5 StrawberryBlondie said:

Every single time I have commented on a "story" on social media that, no, that person wasn't following you to kidnap and traffic your kid from Ikea last weekend, someone responds with "you never know, you can never be too careful." Or "but it's near a freeway, so a known trafficking corridor.

Ma'am, we live in the suburbs. Everywhere is near a freeway.

Same! The “you can never be too careful” response drives me nuts. Of course you should be aware of your surroundings! That’s common sense. But suburban shopping centers are pretty safe.

I remember when this happened and saw her videos before she deleted them.

One of the worst parts of these mom influencer stories are all of the other people who share the story and then go on to share some “scary incident” that happened to them to prove that this is a bigger issue than it is (not human trafficking, affluent white women’s children being targets). My favorite was the person who said a man at Panera asked her how old her kid was. Every interaction with strangers is not a kidnapping attempt!

Also, I think there actually is such a thing as "too careful."

Back when it first opened, people were convinced that this super bougie grocery store was a hotspot for traffickers and the entire reasoning was that it is 1. Right off the freeway, and 2. Across the street from a hotel.

[mbcdefg]

Apr 11, 2022 12:51:36 GMT -5 StrawberryBlondie said:

Every single time I have commented on a "story" on social media that, no, that person wasn't following you to kidnap and traffic your kid from Ikea last weekend, someone responds with "you never know, you can never be too careful." Or "but it's near a freeway, so a known trafficking corridor.

Ma'am, we live in the suburbs. Everywhere is near a freeway.

I remember a news story about a hysterical white woman claiming that a man was following her and her kid(s) at IKEA, and one of the first comments was, “It’s IKEA. The floor plan FORCES you to follow the people ahead of you.”

[rubytue]

Apr 11, 2022 13:12:29 GMT -5 quesyrah said:

Apr 11, 2022 12:51:36 GMT -5 StrawberryBlondie said:

Every single time I have commented on a "story" on social media that, no, that person wasn't following you to kidnap and traffic your kid from Ikea last weekend, someone responds with "you never know, you can never be too careful." Or "but it's near a freeway, so a known trafficking corridor.

Ma'am, we live in the suburbs. Everywhere is near a freeway.

Same! The “you can never be too careful” response drives me nuts. Of course you should be aware of your surroundings! That’s common sense. But suburban shopping centers are pretty safe.

I remember when this happened and saw her videos before she deleted them.

One of the worst parts of these mom influencer stories are all of the other people who share the story and then go on to share some “scary incident” that happened to them to prove that this is a bigger issue than it is (not human trafficking, affluent white women’s children being targets). My favorite was the person who said a man at Panera asked her how old her kid was. Every interaction with strangers is not a kidnapping attempt!

This one gets me. In the same breath, they will go off about breakdowns in society. But yet, you view everyone with suspicions?!

I got into it with someone (on FB, yeah… know better) about carrying a gun in one of these situations. I kept saying no, I was not scared of everything and a gun would not make me feel better. In, not a great moment, I pulled in some “living in fear” lines. But… for real… Why the fuck is wearing a mask living in fear, but carrying a gun around in case a homeless man walks by your car while you are in the drive tru line…. Reasonable?!  Sorry… tangent. 

[neverfstop]

Apr 11, 2022 14:25:39 GMT -5 StrawberryBlondie said:

Apr 11, 2022 13:12:29 GMT -5 quesyrah said:

Also, I think there actually is such a thing as "too careful."

Agreed....I'm in the high-risk tolerance camp, in that I'm pretty happy to let my kids wander, explore, be alone, go on adventures much more than my husband or many of my friends are comfortable letting their kids.  I feel our kids are waaay too sheltered these days & we're extremely over-protective. I remember younger babysitters, staying home alone, walking to school, and lots of other things that would generally be considered abnormal or too lenient these days.

[Deleted]

Apr 11, 2022 15:10:27 GMT -5 rubytue said:

Apr 11, 2022 13:12:29 GMT -5 quesyrah said:

Same! The “you can never be too careful” response drives me nuts. Of course you should be aware of your surroundings! That’s common sense. But suburban shopping centers are pretty safe.

I remember when this happened and saw her videos before she deleted them.

One of the worst parts of these mom influencer stories are all of the other people who share the story and then go on to share some “scary incident” that happened to them to prove that this is a bigger issue than it is (not human trafficking, affluent white women’s children being targets). My favorite was the person who said a man at Panera asked her how old her kid was. Every interaction with strangers is not a kidnapping attempt!

This one gets me. In the same breath, they will go off about breakdowns in society. But yet, you view everyone with suspicions?!
;

I don’t think they view EVERYONE with suspicions. Just, you know, black people, brown people, poor people, anyone with an accent, Muslims, hippies, liberals….you know. Anyone except Chads and Karens.

[mouse]

Apr 11, 2022 7:59:01 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

She picked the wrong people to go after (because she probably assumed that brown skin = no way they have the means to fight back legally). But...what if she didn't? What if the people she targeted didn't have the means to hire a lawyer, join a community group, or have a network of friends that can help? This was already awful enough for the Martinez family who had all of that ability, so it would have been even more destructive to the lives of people who wouldn't have been able to do anything about it.

It is incredible how much attention certain social media accounts/posts get. Reminds me of how "Plandemic" got so much attention so quickly.

Yes, what if they’d been undocumented immigrants and too scared to come forward because any attention could put them in jeopardy?

I think it spreads so fast because this what people want to believe. Which is horrifying.