@@@ June COVID THREAD

[Velar Fricative]

Jun 1, 2022 22:16:03 GMT -5 CallingAllAngels said:

I am sorry to everyone dealing with this. 3 out of 4 in my household had it last week. H and DD are still quarantining. Today is my day 11, so I guess I’m done.

11yo DD (12 next week) had it for the second time. She had it in September, vaxed in November/December, and now covid again in May. The only one who escaped this round is my 14yo DS, who was boosted May 1.

This is the third bout of covid in my house, and every time, anyone who has been vaccinated/boosted in the previous 6 months has avoided testing positive. On one hand, I am grateful for an effective vaccine and mild cases. On the other, I feel like we are going to spend the rest of our lives chasing boosters. Both times DD had covid were right as the vaccine and then booster were approved for her age group. Is she going to get it again in 6 months right before a 2nd booster is approved? DS was the same way, he was vaccinated in May/June last year and then had covid in January right as boosters were approved for his age group. It feels never ending. Fortunately, she turns 12 next week so at least she can get the larger booster dose this time. I think I’m going to wait and get it around the time school starts.

Ugh, I’m sorry you’re dealing with this again.

The booster thing is interesting. DH did get covid 2 months after his booster, but he was only sick for about 24 hours, but was pretty sick for those hours. Today is day 3 (developed symptoms and tested positive at the same time), and I still have symptoms, and my booster was 8 months ago. The body aches and fatigue set in last night, so only dealing with this for 24 hours seems like a dream right now so gimme alllllll the boosters (when I’m eligible for the second one at least, since I’m still not eligible and that’s why it’s been so long since the first one). But yeah, as I mentioned above, I do not want to deal with covid 3-4 times a year. Seems like treatments will be even more important in the future, to help shorten illness. I considered getting Paxlovid but the rebounds freak me out. I can’t fathom feeling better and then having all these symptoms come back.

[magpie]

Jun 1, 2022 11:28:50 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

Everyone else in the house is still negative and I've said for a long time that I will never understand this virus and that is the damn truth. There is no reason besides luck that I'd be the only one with covid given my timeline. DD2 is all over me but of course she's fine.

No one else in our house got covid from DH when he had it a few weeks ago, even though all of us were all over each other. It makes no sense!

I donate blood regularly and they run antibody tests (or they did as of a week ago) and my blood showed high levels of antibodies, so they might be why I didn't get it? Whether those antibodies are from the vaccine or an infection is anyone's guess (my booster was back in January, I think?).

[Velar Fricative]

DH and the kids are still negative. Not a single other person from the hockey tournament has reported a positive test, so I truly have no idea how I got this. Sure, I could have gotten it from a stranger at the hotel or the ice rinks, but we were always together so surely at least one other person among this large group of people would have also gotten infected.

[formerlyak]

The nonprofit I’m the head of supports our school district, so I have been at lots of in-person yearend events. I’m usually one of few masking. We are very mask compliant here, but mandates at schools were just lifted in March so people are happy to not wear them. The one day I didn’t wear them, I was in a three hour meeting in a small conference room with two people I know well. Like they are friends I would not have thought twice about having at my house maskless. So I didn’t wear one. Later that day, one of them tested positive.

I wore a mask at home and slept and showered in another room, ate in a different room from my family for five days. I tested negative daily and the last day did a negative PCR. I wasn’t worried about having it, or even about the kids getting it, but I didn’t want them to get it now and miss all the year end stuff. My youngest is second grade and has never had all the normal fun year-end stuff because of Covid. And the teen has worked too hard to miss finals.

I’m back to feeling like there are windows of time when I want us to get Covid because it works better with our schedules.

ETA: The other person also remained negative, so we decided to play the lottery yesterday. We don’t understand how we both didn’t get it given the close proximity and duration of our exposure.

[Bad Dingo]

DD tested positive yesterday after having a sore throat for two days but testing negative. Woke up yesterday w/almost 103 fever. Alternating meds got it down and her pedi prescribed antivirals. She took the 2nd dose this morning, I hope it starts working quickly. At least this morning her fever was gone and her voice sounded slightly better. She's completely exhausted like I've never seen before.

Her amazing GSA advisor is going to have a google meet for the end of year celebration that she was broken hearted to be missing out on. There's a high school end of year awards ceremony tomorrow and they just announced that it'll be simultaneously livestreamed because of so many cases. Silver linings?

I hope everyone who is sick recovers quickly!!

[dcn]

Jun 2, 2022 7:20:07 GMT -5 formerlyak said:

The nonprofit I’m the head of supports our school district, so I have been at lots of in-person yearend events. I’m usually one of few masking. We are very mask compliant here, but mandates at schools were just lifted in March so people are happy to not wear them. The one day I didn’t wear them, I was in a three hour meeting in a small conference room with two people I know well. Like they are friends I would not have thought twice about having at my house maskless. So I didn’t wear one. Later that day, one of them tested positive.

I wore a mask at home and slept and showered in another room, ate in a different room from my family for five days. I tested negative daily and the last day did a negative PCR. I wasn’t worried about having it, or even about the kids getting it, but I didn’t want them to get it now and miss all the year end stuff. My youngest is second grade and has never had all the normal fun year-end stuff because of Covid. And the teen has worked too hard to miss finals.

I’m back to feeling like there are windows of time when I want us to get Covid because it works better with our schedules.

ETA: The other person also remained negative, so we decided to play the lottery yesterday. We don’t understand how we both didn’t get it given the close proximity and duration of our exposure.

My H avoided getting it when the kids and I had it, and he’s had multiple close contact long exposures at work and still has not had it. It’s so interesting to me.

[shauni27]

The virus is so weird; H had it a couple of weeks ago but S and I stayed negative (according to daily (!!!) pcr tests) even though we felt more sick than him.

We are constantly exposed to it though. We find out every few days that we had a close contact exposure. We do our testing and remain negative. It is insane.

Final numbers are trickling in; for the month of may, our medical center (about 8k employees) had over 600 employees out with covid. The previous month it was 300, and in March it was 125. However, our hospitalizations are still down. I learned today that let's say we have 10 people hospitalized with covid; not all are hospitalized BECAUSE of Covid--they were inpatients for something else and the Covid was an incidental finding. Weird that those numbers are included in state's hospitalization records.

[sonrisa]

Jun 2, 2022 11:50:31 GMT -5 shauni27 said:

I learned today that let's say we have 10 people hospitalized with covid; not all are hospitalized BECAUSE of Covid--they were inpatients for something else and the Covid was an incidental finding. Weird that those numbers are included in state's hospitalization records.

They aren't necessarily as unrelated as the distinction suggest. If someone comes in with a heart attack, they are counted as "with COVID" not because of. Even though COVID causes heart attacks. Because they can't know if COVID caused *that* heart attack. 

[lostrn]

Jun 2, 2022 11:59:58 GMT -5 sonrisa said:

Jun 2, 2022 11:50:31 GMT -5 shauni27 said:

I learned today that let's say we have 10 people hospitalized with covid; not all are hospitalized BECAUSE of Covid--they were inpatients for something else and the Covid was an incidental finding. Weird that those numbers are included in state's hospitalization records.

They aren't necessarily as unrelated as the distinction suggest. If someone comes in with a heart attack, they are counted as "with COVID" not because of. Even though COVID causes heart attacks. Because they can't know if COVID caused *that* heart attack. 

And if someone is hospitalized with covid, they will need to be isolated per protocol, etc. And they would still count as having COVID, even if COVID wasn't what originally sent them to the hospital.

[shauni27]

Jun 2, 2022 12:08:54 GMT -5 lostrn said:

Jun 2, 2022 11:59:58 GMT -5 sonrisa said:

They aren't necessarily as unrelated as the distinction suggest. If someone comes in with a heart attack, they are counted as "with COVID" not because of. Even though COVID causes heart attacks. Because they can't know if COVID caused *that* heart attack. 

And if someone is hospitalized with covid, they will need to be isolated per protocol, etc. And they would still count as having COVID, even if COVID wasn't what originally sent them to the hospital.

That’s a really good point that I did not think about. Duh, shauni.

[RitzyHeifer]

Only seeing this on Twitter so far (but CBS Twitter, not random person): states can start ordering under-5 vaccine soon: t.co/IzCSW1U4X8

[sonrisa]

May I propose we change this back to a weekly or every few days thread? June might be a loooong month for kiddie COVID.

[Susie]

Jun 2, 2022 14:51:10 GMT -5 RitzyHeifer said:

Only seeing this on Twitter so far (but CBS Twitter, not random person): states can start ordering under-5 vaccine soon: t.co/IzCSW1U4X8

Weren't we [rumored to be?] at this stage in like February?  I can't take it if this time isn't "it."

I asked my kids' pedi this morning about any recommendations for timing on vaccination for DS (3), who had covid 2 weeks ago, assuming a June/July EUA, and for DD (6), who didn't get covid but is now able to get a booster.  She basically had no advice at all.  Re: 3, she kind of shrugged and said there's no EUA yet so it's moot, and re: 6, she said eh, bring her in when you have time.  That... does not help!

[lea]

Ha. My kid turns 5 the day before they expect under-5 vaccines to be available.

[tacom]

We were unblinded today in the pfizer trial. Placebo.

Honestly I’m glad we didn’t know this whole time.

Somehow my 3 year old has avoided covid so far despite several close exposures (teachers, classmates, swim instructor), no masks or precautions at school, dad traveling for work conferences, and mom working at the hospital. I began to really think he must have had some protection, which gave me peace.

Guess it’s all just dumb luck.

[sillygoosegirl]

Jun 1, 2022 14:44:49 GMT -5 mskitkat said:

noodleoo the weird thing to me is that it feels like everyone is treating covid like a cold or something. A bug you can just power through and it’s fine. Covid knocked us down hard. My husband couldn’t stay awake at all for a full day and three weeks later, we are still wiped out by basic things. I can’t deal with this 3-4x/year!

I know two people who had COVID in February or March and are suffering from long COVID now. Both vaccinated for sure, and I think boosted too. DH and DD had it very mild, very short, and with no lingering effects, for which we are grateful, but that doesn't mean we want to play the long COVID lottery 3-4x/year, or potentially pass it along to someone who might get it worse. I'm shocked that people are so unconcerned.

[sonrisa]

Jun 3, 2022 14:10:05 GMT -5 sillygoosegirl said:

Jun 1, 2022 14:44:49 GMT -5 mskitkat said:

noodleoo the weird thing to me is that it feels like everyone is treating covid like a cold or something. A bug you can just power through and it’s fine. Covid knocked us down hard. My husband couldn’t stay awake at all for a full day and three weeks later, we are still wiped out by basic things. I can’t deal with this 3-4x/year!

I know two people who had COVID in February or March and are suffering from long COVID now. Both vaccinated for sure, and I think boosted too. DH and DD had it very mild, very short, and with no lingering effects, for which we are grateful, but that doesn't mean we want to play the long COVID lottery 3-4x/year, or potentially pass it along to someone who might get it worse. I'm shocked that people are so unconcerned.

With 1 in 5 adults developing long COVID, I agree. www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7121e1.htm

[mskitkat]

Jun 3, 2022 14:10:05 GMT -5 sillygoosegirl said:

Jun 1, 2022 14:44:49 GMT -5 mskitkat said:

noodleoo the weird thing to me is that it feels like everyone is treating covid like a cold or something. A bug you can just power through and it’s fine. Covid knocked us down hard. My husband couldn’t stay awake at all for a full day and three weeks later, we are still wiped out by basic things. I can’t deal with this 3-4x/year!

I know two people who had COVID in February or March and are suffering from long COVID now. Both vaccinated for sure, and I think boosted too. DH and DD had it very mild, very short, and with no lingering effects, for which we are grateful, but that doesn't mean we want to play the long COVID lottery 3-4x/year, or potentially pass it along to someone who might get it worse. I'm shocked that people are so unconcerned.

Long Covid is my fear. I have a collection of conditions that people are now developing as long covid. I am petrified of going from well managed to fully disabled.

[dulcemariamar]

Jun 3, 2022 14:38:22 GMT -5 sonrisa said:

Jun 3, 2022 14:10:05 GMT -5 sillygoosegirl said:

I know two people who had COVID in February or March and are suffering from long COVID now. Both vaccinated for sure, and I think boosted too. DH and DD had it very mild, very short, and with no lingering effects, for which we are grateful, but that doesn't mean we want to play the long COVID lottery 3-4x/year, or potentially pass it along to someone who might get it worse. I'm shocked that people are so unconcerned.

With 1 in 5 adults developing long COVID, I agree. www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7121e1.htm

Ahhh.... This is so frustrating. I want to treat it like a cold but the long COVID is giving me pause. I have some colleagues that have been out for months now and I would hate that to be me because I have chronic illness and I know what it feels like to be sick for a long period of time and how lonely/frustrating it feels when you see everyone go about their lives.

I wonder how many people will go on disability. My parents are always complaining about how people don’t want to work in the States anymore but now I question if people take into consideration the number of people that lost their lives and also people on disability because of COVID. Has anyone seen any info about that.

I read a Twitter thread of people with long COVID and I had to click off because it is really hard to read. That is very true about the above poster saying that we might get COVID 2-3 times a year and every time it could mean getting long COVID. Omg life is so exhausting. And parenting is super exhausting. Too much responsibility.

[sonrisa]

For us, wearing masks indoors and eating outdoors is going have to continue indefinitely.

[wanderingback]

Jun 3, 2022 14:10:05 GMT -5 sillygoosegirl said:

Jun 1, 2022 14:44:49 GMT -5 mskitkat said:

noodleoo the weird thing to me is that it feels like everyone is treating covid like a cold or something. A bug you can just power through and it’s fine. Covid knocked us down hard. My husband couldn’t stay awake at all for a full day and three weeks later, we are still wiped out by basic things. I can’t deal with this 3-4x/year!

I know two people who had COVID in February or March and are suffering from long COVID now. Both vaccinated for sure, and I think boosted too. DH and DD had it very mild, very short, and with no lingering effects, for which we are grateful, but that doesn't mean we want to play the long COVID lottery 3-4x/year, or potentially pass it along to someone who might get it worse. I'm shocked that people are so unconcerned.

I don’t necessarily think that everyone is unconcerned but it really is asking people a lot for years upon years to radically change their behavior and not socialize. I was always pretty careful, like I haven’t gone without a mask in public at all since March 2020 but I was doing indoor dining, small gatherings with friends, etc, but now I’m back to being super cautious since I’m pregnant. It helps that it’s warm weather so I will eat out but only outside (I cancelled going to dinner twice recently cause bad weather caused the group to eat inside).

Anyway, I don’t know, I’m giving people grace. Not sure how people are expected to share the concern they have to the public. I personally don’t want to talk about covid every single day even though I fully recognize that it is a health threat.
*caveat all of my friends and family are vaccinated and no one thinks covid is a hoax, but they’re still "living their lives almost back to normal."

[sonrisa]

Jun 3, 2022 18:52:05 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

Jun 3, 2022 14:10:05 GMT -5 sillygoosegirl said:

I know two people who had COVID in February or March and are suffering from long COVID now. Both vaccinated for sure, and I think boosted too. DH and DD had it very mild, very short, and with no lingering effects, for which we are grateful, but that doesn't mean we want to play the long COVID lottery 3-4x/year, or potentially pass it along to someone who might get it worse. I'm shocked that people are so unconcerned.

I don’t necessarily think that everyone is unconcerned but it really is asking people a lot for years upon years to radically change their behavior and not socialize. I was always pretty careful, like I haven’t gone without a mask in public at all since March 2020 but I was doing indoor dining, small gatherings with friends, etc, but now I’m back to being super cautious since I’m pregnant. It helps that it’s warm weather so I will eat out but only outside (I cancelled going to dinner twice recently cause bad weather caused the group to eat inside).

Anyway, I don’t know, I’m giving people grace. Not sure how people are expected to share the concern they have to the public. I personally don’t want to talk about covid every single day even though I fully recognize that it is a health threat.
*caveat all of my friends and family are vaccinated and no one thinks covid is a hoax, but they’re still "living their lives almost back to normal."

Not everyone is unconcerned, but there are people who aren't following guidelines.

My kid has COVID because she went to a playdate with a friend - despite the family knowing the friend had a close contact exposure three days earlier - because they did not tell us or take precautions. That friend went home and tested positive. The same family left their other child at a friends house for a sleepover that night. Now all three kids at that playdate and others that the family touched have COVID. And I just saw that same friend out wandering the streets with other kids without a mask (even though she's within the isolation time period). 

So yes, I am shocked at how unconcerned some people are. 

[sonrisa]

Jun 3, 2022 20:51:28 GMT -5 mofongo said:

Jun 3, 2022 20:38:37 GMT -5 sonrisa said:

Not everyone is unconcerned, but there are people who aren't following guidelines.

My kid has COVID because she went to a playdate with a friend - despite the family knowing the friend had a close contact exposure three days earlier - because they did not tell us or take precautions. That friend went home and tested positive. The same family left their other child at a friends house for a sleepover that night. Now all three kids at that playdate and others that the family touched have COVID. And I just saw that same friend out wandering the streets with other kids without a mask (even though she's within the isolation time period). 

So yes, I am shocked at how unconcerned some people are. 

Well, these people just sound like assholes.

Can you tell how pissed I am? lol. Yes. That is how I feel about them, too.

[sonrisa]

who knows. lol. just typing it out has been cathartic, though.

[krystee]

Who can I write hate mail to about the under 5 vaccine delay? Because the three of us who are vaccinated are down to mild colds by day four and never had fevers, but my unvaccinated 4YO has had three nights of fever and now has diarrhea and a worsening cough. Rage.

[sonrisa]

Jun 3, 2022 20:55:37 GMT -5 mofongo said:

Jun 3, 2022 20:53:51 GMT -5 sonrisa said:

Can you tell how pissed I am? lol. Yes. That is how I feel.

I’d be too! what prompted them to come clean?

I spoke too soon. Even though every single thing lines up with their kid being Typhoid Mary, the dad just emailed me to say it wasn't his kid - that my kid was exposed by another random kid mine doesn't even know, let alone spend time with unmasked at a playdate (my kid masks at school and elsewhere). So, no. No acknowledgment. 

[Velar Fricative]

This is the first morning where I didn’t wake up feeling like shit so that’s promising.

No one else has tested positive. But now I’m isolating more because we didn’t bother earlier thinking there was no way only I would get this given our timelines.

Now I’m really curious if DD2 had it recently and we had no idea. She doesn’t give a shit about my covid and acts accordingly, and yet she’s perfectly fine.

[NewOrleans]

I keep dodging it. 🥺 I was with my BIL and SIL a couple weeks ago Friday. Then…

BIL got sick Sunday May 16, fever of 103 Wednesday May 17 and tested positive. He was so, so sick. He went to the ER and was given anti virals. They were very worried that he was so sick even with a booster. He WFH and doesn’t really socialize, so he has no clue where he got it- he thinks unmasked at the store.

His kid 1 tested positive Friday May 20. SIL tested positive May21.

They didn’t come for our kid’s birthday last weekend, thankfully… Because SIL was still testing positive 8 days later. And then— Because FIL watched their kids Tuesday 6/1, got sick that night, and tested positive Wednesday. Now he’s completely laid out. Where did he get it? SIL’s kid 2 was asymptomatic and tested positive Wednesday night. Now we’re waiting for MIL to pop. 😞

The moral of the story is make it 2 weeks if you can for the last person in your house to get clear, as their kid 2 didn’t get it until at least a week after the last person in their house got it and passed it on.

We have a big vacation scheduled this month and I have grounded my entire family until then. Nobody in, nobody out. DH is going to be very upset that we won’t see his dad for Father’s Day but we absolutely can’t risk it.

[vamoose]

My husband tested positive on Tuesday, I tested positive on Thursday. Our three kids have not been isolating from us and all have had some degree of symptoms (for two since Monday, for one since Wednesday) and all have had daily negative home tests plus a negative PCR on Thursday. I assume they have it?? They are coughing. I kept them all home all week. They are so over being home, and the two oldest want to walk to a nearby playground today to get out. I’m leaning toward no?? But it’s so hard to know what to do when they continue to test negative. I think I’ll send them to school Monday with masks? Ughhh

[timorousbeastie]

It’s been a week and a half since H tested positive, almost 2 weeks since his first symptom. Both DD and I have thankfully continued to test negative. H isolated after his positive test, but was coughing in his sleep next to me all night before he tested, so I’m amazed I didn’t get sick. He wound up having a very mild case, so we really lucked out.