@@ August Covid

[Velar Fricative]

Flammable opinion - I feel like it's even too much to stay home for 5+ days (and often 10 when you think about the added quarantine exposure time) if another household member has covid provided other household members have no symptoms and test at home daily.

I think we have more than enough evidence after 2+ years and even with these contagious variants that there is no guarantee that if one household member gets covid, the rest of the household will get it too. I will never understand how this stupid contagious thing avoids spreading even in close quarters many times (like how I got covid in June from some random stranger somewhere but didn't spread it to any of my family members whom I never isolated from), but that's the reality.

However, anytime the rest of us in the household who didn't have covid went out, masks were worn. That's reasonable to me and I wish would be common practice for the flu or other viral illness too.

[erbear]

Aug 19, 2022 11:35:15 GMT -5 dcrunnergirl52 said:

Aug 19, 2022 9:47:38 GMT -5 erbear said:

I agree. A family member with a close contact is far enough away that I am comfortable with that child being in daycare. A family member with Covid in the household feels like a stay home for me (or at the very least, a mask at school).

Related to this, what would you do if your preschool age (4 year old) is fully vaxxed? Do you send them to daycare if there is covid in the home? Our elementary school allows kids to go to school if covid is in the home if they are fully vaxxed. I've been thinking about what we'd do if this daycare situation came up.

My kids are older, but I think I would keep them home for a couple of days if there is Covid in the house. I realize that's cautious, but I'm also a teacher and I've seen how Covid spreads in households (I'm also aware that everyone in my house but me had Covid this summer, so it's not a guarantee). I would keep mine home for a few days just in case (and send them in masks for 10 days if they test negative). Or I would test them every morning before sending them to school (masked). 

I say this from a place of extreme privilege -- my kids are old enough to stay home alone, and if they weren't, DH could work from home or I could stay home without too much effort. I think others might have much less flexibility and I would understand if they choose to test and mask, but not quarantine.

[mskitkat]

Aug 19, 2022 11:35:15 GMT -5 dcrunnergirl52 said:

Aug 19, 2022 9:47:38 GMT -5 erbear said:

I agree. A family member with a close contact is far enough away that I am comfortable with that child being in daycare. A family member with Covid in the household feels like a stay home for me (or at the very least, a mask at school).

Related to this, what would you do if your preschool age (4 year old) is fully vaxxed? Do you send them to daycare if there is covid in the home? Our elementary school allows kids to go to school if covid is in the home if they are fully vaxxed. I've been thinking about what we'd do if this daycare situation came up.

Is it a daycare or a preschool? For a daycare, I would keep home because of the risk to babies. For a prek, I would do what I did with my Kindergartener last year. I tested her before school. If she tested negative and was a symptom, she went to school. When she started showing symptoms, I kept her home.

[Susie]

Aug 19, 2022 11:35:15 GMT -5 dcrunnergirl52 said:

Aug 19, 2022 9:47:38 GMT -5 erbear said:

I agree. A family member with a close contact is far enough away that I am comfortable with that child being in daycare. A family member with Covid in the household feels like a stay home for me (or at the very least, a mask at school).

Related to this, what would you do if your preschool age (4 year old) is fully vaxxed? Do you send them to daycare if there is covid in the home? Our elementary school allows kids to go to school if covid is in the home if they are fully vaxxed. I've been thinking about what we'd do if this daycare situation came up.

My 3 yo is fully vaxxed (as of today!).  I think I would test him daily in the morning, and send masked to preschool as long as it's negative, and as long as we had a negative parent who could take him into the building/classroom.

There is an infant class on a different floor of the building, but they don't have contact so I wouldn't change my decision on account of that.

[dulcemariamar]

Aug 19, 2022 11:46:12 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

Flammable opinion - I feel like it's even too much to stay home for 5+ days (and often 10 when you think about the added quarantine exposure time) if another household member has covid provided other household members have no symptoms and test at home daily.

I think we have more than enough evidence after 2+ years and even with these contagious variants that there is no guarantee that if one household member gets covid, the rest of the household will get it too. I will never understand how this stupid contagious thing avoids spreading even in close quarters many times (like how I got covid in June from some random stranger somewhere but didn't spread it to any of my family members whom I never isolated from), but that's the reality.

However, anytime the rest of us in the household who didn't have covid went out, masks were worn. That's reasonable to me and I wish would be common practice for the flu or other viral illness too.

At least in my experience at my school, I saw several cases where the sibling or parent would test positive and then my student would test positive 4 days later. They would always come to school without a mask and then in most cases pass it on to 1-2 other students. It was extremely frustrating because I know in most cases one of the parents were still working from home so they could have kept them home or at least send them to school wearing a mask.

[dcrunnergirl52]

Aug 19, 2022 12:37:42 GMT -5 mskitkat said:

Aug 19, 2022 11:35:15 GMT -5 dcrunnergirl52 said:

Related to this, what would you do if your preschool age (4 year old) is fully vaxxed? Do you send them to daycare if there is covid in the home? Our elementary school allows kids to go to school if covid is in the home if they are fully vaxxed. I've been thinking about what we'd do if this daycare situation came up.

Is it a daycare or a preschool? For a daycare, I would keep home because of the risk to babies. For a prek, I would do what I did with my Kindergartener last year. I tested her before school. If she tested negative and was a symptom, she went to school. When she started showing symptoms, I kept her home.

It's a daycare but starts at 18 months so no teeny tiny babies.

[erbear]

Aug 19, 2022 14:21:36 GMT -5 dulcemariamar said:

Aug 19, 2022 11:46:12 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

Flammable opinion - I feel like it's even too much to stay home for 5+ days (and often 10 when you think about the added quarantine exposure time) if another household member has covid provided other household members have no symptoms and test at home daily.

I think we have more than enough evidence after 2+ years and even with these contagious variants that there is no guarantee that if one household member gets covid, the rest of the household will get it too. I will never understand how this stupid contagious thing avoids spreading even in close quarters many times (like how I got covid in June from some random stranger somewhere but didn't spread it to any of my family members whom I never isolated from), but that's the reality.

However, anytime the rest of us in the household who didn't have covid went out, masks were worn. That's reasonable to me and I wish would be common practice for the flu or other viral illness too.

At least in my experience at my school, I saw several cases where the sibling or parent would test positive and then my student would test positive 4 days later. They would always come to school without a mask and then in most cases pass it on to 1-2 other students. It was extremely frustrating because I know in most cases one of the parents were still working from home so they could have kept them home or at least send them to school wearing a mask.

Yeah, this kind of policy really depends on parents buying into the community and being honest about symptoms and testing regularly and masking kids when there is a household positive case. And we all know how often parents dose their kids with tylenol and send them in (and are "surprised" when they spike a fever at lunch...). I don't trust most people this much, particularly this far into the pandemic when I know parents are stressed.

[rubytue]

Fascinating study on infectious period, even with a pretty small n. Long story short, not much presympotmatic, but generally infectious greater than 5 days. www.imperial.ac.uk/news/239213/realworld-study-details-average-duration-infectiousness/

I’m putting it this thread because there is more activity, and while I read the article, I may have skimmed parts and maybe there is @ content.

[icedcoffee]

My kid had kindergarten orientation. I found it interesting that Covid was brought up exactly zero times.

Out of maybe 100 people (kids and parents) there were about 15 maybe in masks? Of those 15 at least 5 were wearing them incorrectly which made me LOL because…..why bother? The mask rules are over.

[beerlover]

Aug 19, 2022 19:51:23 GMT -5 icedcoffee said:

My kid had kindergarten orientation. I found it interesting that Covid was brought up exactly zero times.

Out of maybe 100 people (kids and parents) there were about 15 maybe in masks? Of those 15 at least 5 were wearing them incorrectly which made me LOL because…..why bother? The mask rules are over.

It was also brought up zero times at our orientation. Not surprising though- Central PA.

[lo]

Absolutely no chance I’m keeping my preschoolers home if they test negative and have no symptoms if someone else in the house is positive. Covid came into my house 3 times and it didn’t spread, but I also missed like 30 days of work last year. Not happening again. I’ll continue to follow all the rules and guidelines.

[mala]

Anyone still masking/isolating in the household? Little Kid tested positive on Thursday, haven't been making her mask. I started symptoms today and I'm wondering if it's even worth trying to mask around H and Big Kid. H has NO sick time left at work so if he gets sick it is actually going to be an issue.

[statgirl]

mala

I masked and slept away from my husband when I tested positive—but he was positive the next day, along with one kid.

The other kid never tested positive. The positive kid and I wore masks around the negative kid and tried to stay away as much as possible. My husband wore a mask once he started coughing.

If I were your H, I would sleep separately and mask myself to avoid missing work, but he is exposed already so it may be moot at this point.

[Velar Fricative]

Aug 20, 2022 17:01:04 GMT -5 mala said:

Anyone still masking/isolating in the household? Little Kid tested positive on Thursday, haven't been making her mask. I started symptoms today and I'm wondering if it's even worth trying to mask around H and Big Kid. H has NO sick time left at work so if he gets sick it is actually going to be an issue.

I didn’t and didn’t spread it to anyone. DH slept in the basement while I was sick, but I figured he and then kids were exposed a ton by the time I tested positive anyway. I technically was pretty isolated around days 2-4 because I was in bed most of the time, but still came out unmasked every so often. I feel like masking can only help and not hurt though, but it may be too late.

[mala]

This is going to be a weird question, but has anyone noticed a change in urination with covid? particularly this latest round of variants. I noticed it with Little Kid because she still uses a toddler potty. She was going more often with less volume than I'd call normal for her. And it was either very light or very dark. I didn't notice a change in how much she was drinking vs normal. Now that I've got it, I've noticed the same for me. I'd say it was actually the first symptom, as it started the night before my other symptoms started. I mentioned it to my friend who's kiddo goes to daycare with Little Kid and picked it up at the same time and he was doing it too.

[dcn]

Aug 20, 2022 17:01:04 GMT -5 mala said:

Anyone still masking/isolating in the household? Little Kid tested positive on Thursday, haven't been making her mask. I started symptoms today and I'm wondering if it's even worth trying to mask around H and Big Kid. H has NO sick time left at work so if he gets sick it is actually going to be an issue.

My H just had it and he isolated and wore a mask if he left his room and neither the kids nor I got it.

[pixy0stix]

Aug 20, 2022 17:01:04 GMT -5 mala said:

Anyone still masking/isolating in the household? Little Kid tested positive on Thursday, haven't been making her mask. I started symptoms today and I'm wondering if it's even worth trying to mask around H and Big Kid. H has NO sick time left at work so if he gets sick it is actually going to be an issue.

I isolated myself on a completely different floor (finished basement), and my dh wore a kn95 mask and I masked if he had to come down for whatever reason. He tested positive a week after I did. The kid never tested positive even after we stopped isolation/masking.

[StrawberryBlondie]

Aug 21, 2022 7:34:33 GMT -5 mala said:

This is going to be a weird question, but has anyone noticed a change in urination with covid? particularly this latest round of variants. I noticed it with Little Kid because she still uses a toddler potty. She was going more often with less volume than I'd call normal for her. And it was either very light or very dark. I didn't notice a change in how much she was drinking vs normal. Now that I've got it, I've noticed the same for me. I'd say it was actually the first symptom, as it started the night before my other symptoms started. I mentioned it to my friend who's kiddo goes to daycare with Little Kid and picked it up at the same time and he was doing it too.

Without getting into TMI, yes, but this is normal for me when I get sick.

[al dente]

Aug 20, 2022 17:01:04 GMT -5 mala said:

Anyone still masking/isolating in the household? Little Kid tested positive on Thursday, haven't been making her mask. I started symptoms today and I'm wondering if it's even worth trying to mask around H and Big Kid. H has NO sick time left at work so if he gets sick it is actually going to be an issue.

How easy is it to isolate in your house? My 4yr old got it when my H was gone, so I just came to terms that we all were getting it because there was no isolating/being masks 24/7 around each other. But, she's a kid lol. Me and the infant never got sick though, despite taking zero precautions.

[pugz]

mala we did not isolate but it was summer and we had a trip coming up so we really wanted to get it all over with and not have it stretch out over a couple of weeks.

We might isolate now that it's the school year, if it is feasible. Like my husband could work and sleep in the basement.

[mala]

Aug 22, 2022 4:21:12 GMT -5 al dente said:

Aug 20, 2022 17:01:04 GMT -5 mala said:

Anyone still masking/isolating in the household? Little Kid tested positive on Thursday, haven't been making her mask. I started symptoms today and I'm wondering if it's even worth trying to mask around H and Big Kid. H has NO sick time left at work so if he gets sick it is actually going to be an issue.

How easy is it to isolate in your house? My 4yr old got it when my H was gone, so I just came to terms that we all were getting it because there was no isolating/being masks 24/7 around each other. But, she's a kid lol. Me and the infant never got sick though, despite taking zero precautions.

Not easy at all, very small house, and we don't really have areas we can close off.

I've been wearing a mask 90% of the time. I think the goal is more to prevent H from getting sick as long as possible so we're not both sick at the same time. Big kid may be starting some symptoms, but it's too early to really know if she's getting sick or not. She didn't get sick at all in our first round of covid. School doesn't start for a few more weeks here so we have time for her to get sick and recover before she gets thrown to the wolves at school, and maybe having it now will help her not get it at school when it inevitably goes through the class. Little kid is almost fully recovered. She has a little lingering cough. I have been the sickest I can ever remember being, the lightheadedness is by far the worst part. Felt like I was going to pass out several times yesterday.

[InBetweenDays]

Aug 20, 2022 17:01:04 GMT -5 mala said:

Anyone still masking/isolating in the household? Little Kid tested positive on Thursday, haven't been making her mask. I started symptoms today and I'm wondering if it's even worth trying to mask around H and Big Kid. H has NO sick time left at work so if he gets sick it is actually going to be an issue.

We didn't completely isolate but we did mask when DS had it and DH had it (two different time periods). They slept in a room alone with the door closed, and wore a mask when around the rest of us. Except when eating. We did eat together but sat distant (like 15' or so). It didn't spread to anyone else in the house either time.

[sillygoosegirl]

Aug 20, 2022 17:01:04 GMT -5 mala said:

Anyone still masking/isolating in the household? Little Kid tested positive on Thursday, haven't been making her mask. I started symptoms today and I'm wondering if it's even worth trying to mask around H and Big Kid. H has NO sick time left at work so if he gets sick it is actually going to be an issue.

We did recently, but only briefly until we were all positive anyway. We all got exposed by a visiting family member who didn't bother to tell us he was sick until we'd been sharing unmasked space with him for a couple days.

3 months ago masking/semi-isolating at home worked, but we started doing it at the first tickle in the throat (even though it still took 24 hours to show up very faintly on a home test), rather than after 2 days of patient zero sucking on cough drops pretending not to be sick...

[taratru]

The word just came out of Abu Dhabi that all people over the age of 12 returning to schools need a PCR. We are still trying to figure out if that's for all the UAE, just Abu Dhabi, just government schools...

If this happens there are going to be a LOT of kids out the first two weeks, which...ugh. So not ideal (and would throw a wrench into my ENTIRE platform push for the year).

We are also required to mask indoors still, but no social distancing. Which would be great if that were being enforced anywhere else.

[lea]

Biden admin plans to offer updated booster to 12+ after Labor Day

www.nytimes.com/2022/08/23/us/politics/covid-booster-shots-biden.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

CDC says updated booster for younger kids will be available in a short time after. Like…how short, though? School starts next week. I’d like to know if we’re talking “short” like October or “short” like Jan/Feb. Argh.

[arehopsveggies]

How far apart did you space shots 1 and 2 for the under five crowd?
It’s been 4 weeks now. I can find him a Friday after school spot so that would be not quite 5 weeks? But he’s getting over a cold and
Shot 1 made him miserable sick

There are almost no kid appointments around here. Our pediatrician is too small of a clinic to stock it, only the big clinics get it.

[mccallister84]

Aug 23, 2022 21:56:21 GMT -5 arehopsveggies said:

How far apart did you space shots 1 and 2 for the under five crowd?
It’s been 4 weeks now. I can find him a Friday after school spot so that would be not quite 5 weeks? But he’s getting over a cold and
Shot 1 made him miserable sick

There are almost no kid appointments around here. Our pediatrician is too small of a clinic to stock it, only the big clinics get it.

We did Moderna and I think we had to be 4 weeks and we were 4 weeks and a day.

[secretagent]

Aug 23, 2022 19:33:46 GMT -5 lea said:

Biden admin plans to offer updated booster to 12+ after Labor Day

www.nytimes.com/2022/08/23/us/politics/covid-booster-shots-biden.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

CDC says updated booster for younger kids will be available in a short time after. Like…how short, though? School starts next week. I’d like to know if we’re talking “short” like October or “short” like Jan/Feb. Argh.

I was bummed to see this. For some reason I thought they'd be released together. I just talked to my pediatrician about waiting for the new one too (Which she supported fully). My kids were vaccinated in December, and at least some of them had mild Covid in January, so I feel like the clock is ticking on our immunity (or immunity from bad covid?).  

[erbear]

Are there recommendations on how long after the last booster kids should get the new one? I think DD1 was boosted in December or January so she should be good, I think?

[hermione]

Aug 23, 2022 19:33:46 GMT -5 lea said:

Biden admin plans to offer updated booster to 12+ after Labor Day

www.nytimes.com/2022/08/23/us/politics/covid-booster-shots-biden.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

CDC says updated booster for younger kids will be available in a short time after. Like…how short, though? School starts next week. I’d like to know if we’re talking “short” like October or “short” like Jan/Feb. Argh.

Where are you seeing the short time after? This article says, "The new booster campaign could be broadened to younger children later," which feels far off.