Haiti (@ mentions)

[jamaicam]

I havent seen anything about Haiti recently on here. It is such a complicated issue, but I found this article very interesting. Like most of these issues, the solutions need to be found within the country rather than being imposed by external powers. 

US-backed foreign intervention has led to the disaster in Haiti

[shauni27]

I heard a story on NPR this morning about the situation in Haiti and was brought to tears listening to one mother talk about what she is facing with gang violence.
www.npr.org/2022/10/24/1130944796/haiti-is-dealing-with-multiple-crises-is-international-intervention-the-answer

[basilosaurus]

Democracy Now! has very good coverage.

A couple recent pieces from just a couple days ago:
www.democracynow.org/2024/3/11/haiti_update
www.democracynow.org/2024/3/12/haiti_pm_ariel_henry_resignation

But I'd say the history that led to this is the entire history of the country from the late 18th century to now.

[basilosaurus]

First charter flight was finally able to leave from cap haitien, although getting there is still fraught with danger. It's heart breaking.

amp.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/haiti/article286799990.html

[erbear]

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I teach the Haitian Revolution so we've been following this closely in class. It's heartbreaking to trace what's happening now back so far in history.

[jamaicam]

Mar 18, 2024 7:59:51 GMT -5 erbear said:

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I teach the Haitian Revolution so we've been following this closely in class. It's heartbreaking to trace what's happening now back so far in history.

The Haitian Revolution is such a detailed and complicated part of history, and has a major impact on the rest of the region. The Western world has a lot of answer for in how Haiti is now - from the 'damages' that were paid to France for hundreds of years to the role of the US in the Papa/Baby Doc era


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My 11 y.o. has actually been learning about the Haitian Revolution as part of our national curriculum here. They look at Jamaica, Cuba and Haiti and the different paths to the end of slavery and Independence in those countries. 

erbear, what level is the class you teach on the Haitian Revolution?

[erbear]

Mar 18, 2024 9:49:35 GMT -5 jamaicam said:

Mar 18, 2024 7:59:51 GMT -5 erbear said:

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I teach the Haitian Revolution so we've been following this closely in class. It's heartbreaking to trace what's happening now back so far in history.

The Haitian Revolution is such a detailed and complicated part of history, and has a major impact on the rest of the region. The Western world has a lot of answer for in how Haiti is now - from the 'damages' that were paid to France for hundreds of years to the role of the US in the Papa/Baby Doc era


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My 11 y.o. has actually been learning about the Haitian Revolution as part of our national curriculum here. They look at Jamaica, Cuba and Haiti and the different paths to the end of slavery and Independence in those countries. 

erbear, what level is the class you teach on the Haitian Revolution?

It is such a complicated history (my 8th graders struggle with it). I’m shocked that it’s not taught most places though — I didn’t learn about it until I started teaching it (and then only bc I teach the French Revolution and they relate).

[basilosaurus]

I learned a fair amount growing up in s fl and Bahamas and knowing many Haitian refugees. Like having a bay of pigs former pow as my Spanish teacher taught memore than curriculum.

But it was in college when I took Iberian history roughly early 1500s to 1850 in the Americas that I learned so much more, including reading all souls rising.

I'm impressed it's part of middle school curriculum. My education was very informal and mostly due to people I knew talking about personal experiences.

The more I learn the more I'm shocked and the more I realize we're right back in the late 18th century again but worse because we should know and do better.

[raleighnc]

Mar 18, 2024 10:13:47 GMT -5 basilosaurus said:

I learned a fair amount growing up in s fl and Bahamas and knowing many Haitian refugees. Like having a bay of pigs former pow as my Spanish teacher taught memore than curriculum.

But it was in college when I took Iberian history roughly early 1500s to 1850 in the Americas that I learned so much more, including reading all souls rising.

I'm impressed it's part of middle school curriculum. My education was very informal and mostly due to people I knew talking about personal experiences.

The more I learn the more I'm shocked and the more I realize we're right back in the late 18th century again but worse because we should know and do better.

In our district (largest in NC), it's taught in 7th grade as part of the "Age of Revolutions" - American, French, Haitian, and Industrial. It was much better than learning about them separately like when I was in school (and of course we didn't even mention Haiti). They could still do a better job relating the current state of affairs in Haiti to the terrible actions of the US and France, but it's a start. Every story I read is heartbreaking.