Another ridiculous house

[sonrisa]

www.redfin.com/CA/Tiburon/5080-Paradise-Dr-94920/home/1299313

I don't even know how this is legal.  I know the east coast plays these games, but in CA everything up to the high tide line is public access.

[pixy0stix]

One google search later, and it's clear that anyone buying that house is an idiot - medium.com/the-ark-newspaper/slow-moving-emergency-4f29e25add6e

That article is from 2018. There's official county documents that make it obvious that the area is in danger. Especially for a house that's already hanging over the water.

[sonrisa]

Jun 7, 2023 10:24:30 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

One google search later, and it's clear that anyone buying that house is an idiot - medium.com/the-ark-newspaper/slow-moving-emergency-4f29e25add6e

That article is from 2018. There's official county documents that make it obvious that the area is in danger. Especially for a house that's already hanging over the water.

And it's earthquake country. You have the risk of rising king tides *and* the big one to bring you down low.

They leaned heavily into it being a "weekend retreat" (to suburbia). I guess someone could buy it as a tear down and expand the one bedroom instead. 

[wawa]

it's not the only one like that in the area. The others don't exactly appear to be in great repair - so I imagine the fact that they're not actually viable long term habitation anymore is....known?

google map link

there's a "streetview" via boat so you can see everything from the water if you're nosey.

That said - just so everybody is clear, I'm 99.9% sure these houses were built over the water from the jump. it's not like the NC houses where the water has come to get the house, these have I'm sure flooded and will continue to flood, but they were built on top of the water from the get-go. The water just didn't used to come quite so high quite so often.

[sonrisa]

Jun 7, 2023 14:58:29 GMT -5 wawa said:

it's not the only one like that in the area. The others don't exactly appear to be in great repair - so I imagine the fact that they're not actually viable long term habitation anymore is....known?

google map link

there's a "streetview" via boat so you can see everything from the water if you're nosey.

That said - just so everybody is clear, I'm 99.9% sure these houses were built over the water from the jump. it's not like the NC houses where the water has come to get the house, these have I'm sure flooded and will continue to flood, but they were built on top of the water from the get-go. The water just didn't used to come quite so high quite so often.

There are houseboats in the area, too. But those are supposed to float (and are their own folly).

These are well into the interior of the bay so no waves/storm waves, just tidal fluctuation of water level. It looks like the photo is close to high tide (given the seaweed line).

From the listing, it seems it was built in 1968 - four years before the 1972 California Coastal Act. That means it can't be built/rebuilt in that foot print. That's probably why similar google view are in disrepair. 

[puppylove64]

I’d buy it if I had that kind of money.

[pixy0stix]

Jun 7, 2023 16:41:23 GMT -5 puppylove64 said:

I’d buy it if I had that kind of money.

A fool and their money...

[wawa]

Jun 7, 2023 15:12:12 GMT -5 sonrisa said:

Jun 7, 2023 14:58:29 GMT -5 wawa said:

it's not the only one like that in the area. The others don't exactly appear to be in great repair - so I imagine the fact that they're not actually viable long term habitation anymore is....known?

google map link

there's a "streetview" via boat so you can see everything from the water if you're nosey.

That said - just so everybody is clear, I'm 99.9% sure these houses were built over the water from the jump. it's not like the NC houses where the water has come to get the house, these have I'm sure flooded and will continue to flood, but they were built on top of the water from the get-go. The water just didn't used to come quite so high quite so often.

There are houseboats in the area, too. But those are supposed to float (and are their own folly).

These are well into the interior of the bay so no waves/storm waves, just tidal fluctuation of water level. It looks like the photo is close to high tide (given the seaweed line).

From the listing, it seems it was built in 1968 - four years before the 1972 California Coastal Act. That means it can't be built/rebuilt in that foot print. That's probably why similar google view are in disrepair. 

This is totally not relevant, I'm just curious - Does your bay not get choppy/wind wavy if the wind comes in the long way?  Like this house if the wind is coming out of the NE has a solid 15 mile fetch to work up some good chop. Still not at all the same as huge ocean waves in a storm, but will do damage if the water is already high.

The chesapeake doesn't have waves like the ocean, but in a good storm it'll still smack the shit out of stuff.  And if the wind is pushing the same direction as the tide it'll push the water level up noticeably.  We actually just had one of those...steady north wind overlapping with a full moon high tide and the water was up over my IL's pier despite the fact that they're as protected as protected can be (up a creek that's off a cove that's off a river off the bay)