Salary Question

[mrsd2006]

PDQ- will DD later

thanks for the suggestions

[cricketwife]

I don’t have any experience in your field and couldn’t guess at what your salary should be, but I think looking elsewhere is a good idea. If nothing else, it will give you negotiating power if they want to keep you/you want to stay.

[dr.girlfriend]

I would start with some of the websites -- glassdoor, salary.com, etc. to get a sense of what's standard for your title and region.

If you're prepared to make a change that's a good negotiating position. Equity has been a big issue at my workplace too -- with inflation and rising housing prices the starting salary needed to attract new people has skyrocketed and left people who were hired 20 years ago in the dust even with regular minimal increases.

My current salary is LITERALLY 3 times what my starting salary was, in an industry for which 3% is usually the max yearly increase. Honestly, I'm thrilled when new people get hired and negotiate well because it bumps us all up. But that's because they are regularly assessing equity and making adjustments; your workplace may need a push (or even a shove).

[AdaraMarie]

I found myself in a similar situation last year. I used job postings at my company and similar companies to figure out what I was worth as well as cost data I had access to from project proposals. Not sure if that is possible for you- salary range has to be included on job postings here. I was not even threatening to walk but I asked for an 18% raise and got a 15% one.
So frustrating to know you've been underpaid for who knows how long.

[Deleted]

The whole "fours aren't being given out..." enrages me. They got money to hire people making 11k more than you but no merit increase? Sounds like my old job that was toxic AF. I would get a 3-4% merit increase per year and then also cost of living increase "most" years.

Like others said, research, state your value, follow thru on leaving if demands are not met.

[AdaraMarie]

I'm not sure the experience of the new hires or how it works in your industry, but I have 18 years of experience as an engineer and now make around 35-40% more than the people with 1-2 years experience.

[mpm]

I’m in your industry and the way this game is played at my company is go get another offer and demand they match it. It’s entirely dysfunctional, but I have yet to see this work another way.

[sadlebred]

I'd also bring a list of unique things you add to the company. I have X years of experience doing Y for the company. I spearheaded the effort to upgrade the ABC last year and so on.

[mrsd2006]

Great ideas, thanks. To make matters worse I just got a fancy certificate in the mail celebrating my 5 year anniversary. The start date is listed as 2019... I've been here 19 years 😅😅😅 HR is a joke.

[mofongo]

Jun 24, 2023 17:28:37 GMT -5 mrsd2006 said:

Great ideas, thanks. To make matters worse I just got a fancy certificate in the mail celebrating my 5 year anniversary. The start date is listed as 2019... I've been here 19 years 😅😅😅 HR is a joke.

Ha, we should go celebrate together! I just got my 5yr pin, I’ve been there 18yrs!

[wildrice]

Jun 24, 2023 17:28:37 GMT -5 mrsd2006 said:

Great ideas, thanks. To make matters worse I just got a fancy certificate in the mail celebrating my 5 year anniversary. The start date is listed as 2019... I've been here 19 years 😅😅😅 HR is a joke.

Aww, that sucks that they are not helpful. I was going to suggest talking to HR about your pay and asking for an equity review. I wouldn't say "Jane is making more than me now!" but something like "my pay hasn't kept pace with current market rate for my position and experience, and I'd like to have it reviewed to ensure I am being compensated fairly". If they refuse, find a new job. But some (maybe a lot?) of companies will do a salary adjustment.

They should be doing that anyway so it's not a great sign if they are hiring people for above what they know they pay you... but depending on the size of the company they just may not do regular reviews and assume if they don't hear anything, everything is cool.

This all assumes you like your job otherwise and want to stay. Otherwise I'd just look for a new job!

[mrsd2006]

Jun 25, 2023 12:38:08 GMT -5 mofongo said:

Jun 24, 2023 17:28:37 GMT -5 mrsd2006 said:

Great ideas, thanks. To make matters worse I just got a fancy certificate in the mail celebrating my 5 year anniversary. The start date is listed as 2019... I've been here 19 years 😅😅😅 HR is a joke.

Ha, we should go celebrate together! I just got my 5yr pin, I’ve been there 18yrs!

Do we work for the same company lolol

[dr.girlfriend]

I mean, in all honesty, mrsd2006 and mofongo,you both should make sure that HR has the correct date of hire since whatever data they are using to send out those anniversary pins may be the same data they are using for equity analyses!

[mofongo]

Jun 26, 2023 11:01:53 GMT -5 dr.girlfriend said:

I mean, in all honesty, mrsd2006 and mofongo ,you both should make sure that HR has the correct date of hire since whatever data they are using to send out those anniversary pins may be the same data they are using for equity analyses!

I appreciate this:) I’m a PRN employee, so it doesn’t affect my pay.

[mrsd2006]

Jun 26, 2023 11:01:53 GMT -5 dr.girlfriend said:

I mean, in all honesty, mrsd2006 and mofongo ,you both should make sure that HR has the correct date of hire since whatever data they are using to send out those anniversary pins may be the same data they are using for equity analyses!

We just got a new HRIS system last year, my start date is the date it was converted over from the old system lol. They can't get anything right. 




Update on the recognition certificates= they all went out with the wrong year on them. They all said 5 years instead of whatever year it should have been. 

So my date of 2019 was correct, which would have been my 15 year anniversary but instead it said 5 years. 

So much confusion.