NOAA winter weather forecast

[cattledogkisses]

TL;DR: 

-Warmer than average across most of the country, especially Alaska, the PNW, and northern New England

-Wetter than average in the South, drier than average in the Great Lakes and far northern US

-Higher chance of severe storms across the South, particularly in Florida

-Chance for one or two large storms on the East Coast

El Nino and climate change will both have significant effects on this year's winter weather.

www.npr.org/2023/10/23/1207931045/forecasters-predict-a-warmer-north-wetter-south-because-of-el-nino-climate-chang

[scm1011]

I hope we (Boston) get a few good big snowstorms at least. Last winter we didn't get to go sledding once and it was depressing.

[karinothing]

Sigh. We had zero snow last year (like seriously zero). I was hoping for a bit this year, but it does look like we will be getting much this year.

[Velar Fricative]

The only snow we had in my part of NYC was one day in late January and all it did was cover the grass for a few hours before it melted lol. I have to look back and see how these predictions usually stack up, but I do hope we get a couple of (modest, not severe) snow storms.

[abs]

I would just like weather consistency below 80. I’m sick of sweating.

[penguingrrl]

Oct 23, 2023 8:38:53 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

The only snow we had in my part of NYC was one day in late January and all it did was cover the grass for a few hours before it melted lol. I have to look back and see how these predictions usually stack up, but I do hope we get a couple of (modest, not severe) snow storms.

Yup, I’m 30 miles south of the city and we didn’t get a single measurable snow last year, and maybe one the year before.

I follow a NJ-specific weather guy on FB who is usually pretty accurate and he thinks we’ll likely have a snowy winter this year based on what he’s seeing (global wind patterns, etc). Apparently a bunch of the recent weekend storms we’ve had have been patterns that if it had been winter would have been decadent snowstorms (last week or the week before was a Miller something or other, which is what caused the Valentines Blizzard of 2003).

[Bad Dingo]

Oct 23, 2023 8:03:36 GMT -5 scm1011 said:

I hope we (Boston) get a few good big snowstorms at least. Last winter we didn't get to go sledding once and it was depressing.

Agreed (CT), I feel like it's been years since we got any decent snow or even very cold weather.  I've been thinking fondly of the blizzard we had maybe 10 years ago over Halloween where we lost power for a couple days.  See what you've done to me, climate change?!??

[wawa]

count me on the northeast/midatlantic crowd would love to see at least one decent snow.
It feels so unnatural (because...it is I guess) when we go a whole winter with NOTHING.

I do hope the possible severe/wet/etc elsewhere aren't damaging.

[StrawberryBlondie]

I'm just hoping MN doesn't have a repeat of last year's extremely cold and extremely snowy winter.

I can handle snow. I can handle cold. I can't handle having to dig out of a 10+ inch snowstorm when it's -20 and windy outside.

[AJL]

I will take just about anything as long as it’s not snow. Central Texas can not handle it. Texas’ energy grid can not handle it. I definitely can not handle it.

[simpsongal]

Oct 23, 2023 8:36:24 GMT -5 karinothing said:

Sigh. We had zero snow last year (like seriously zero). I was hoping for a bit this year, but it does look like we will be getting much this year.

I ran outside and took so many pics for the one 1/4 inch of flurry we got

I wonder how much skiing will exist in the Midatlantic in a generation or two.

[wawa]

simpsongal, probably want to @@ tag or edit that.

But YUP same here. Except snowboarding and it's MH who wants us to learn. Trying to learn how to ski or snowboard in slushy/icy ass conditions while sweating is really annoying, but I'm not willing to spend a whole weekend and travel far enough north to get decent snow.

[Jalapeñomel]

If it's gonna be cold, it should snow. Otherwise, let it be summer.

[isaac]

I just hope we get some snow this year, it was depressing having it be so bitterly cold in the midwest last year but barely getting any snowfall.

A nice white Christmas would help me a lot

[rubytue]

Oct 23, 2023 8:36:24 GMT -5 karinothing said:

Sigh. We had zero snow last year (like seriously zero). I was hoping for a bit this year, but it does look like we will be getting much this year.

And yet, we had a super cold snap just before Christmas and I lost a few plants. So annoying. 

[circa1978]

Aside from climate change implications, this honestly thrills me. I hate cold weather and the St. Louis area can go either way in the winter. Last year we had almost no snow. I'd be fine signing up for the exact same winter this year.

[countthestars]

Oct 23, 2023 8:03:36 GMT -5 scm1011 said:

I hope we (Boston) get a few good big snowstorms at least. Last winter we didn't get to go sledding once and it was depressing.

It's so funny because I am less than 1 hour from you but in a weird little spot that the snow lingers and we had like 7 snow days last year!! 

[sunshineandpinot]

Please let it be right; we need a wet winter. Sounds miserable but our yard is a brown crisp and our lakes are drying up. Massive old oak trees were dropping leaves in August and they don't normally lose their leaves until the spring.
Bring it on; cold and wet sounds great and will make next spring/summer so much more enjoyable!
I need to look at the prediction for Rocky Mountain snow.... we have a couple ski trips planned. Last year was awesome. 

[scm1011]

Oct 23, 2023 13:08:37 GMT -5 countthestars said:

Oct 23, 2023 8:03:36 GMT -5 scm1011 said:

I hope we (Boston) get a few good big snowstorms at least. Last winter we didn't get to go sledding once and it was depressing.

It's so funny because I am less than 1 hour from you but in a weird little spot that the snow lingers and we had like 7 snow days last year!! 

Oh I know!! My cleaning lady lives in your neighboring city and there always seemed to be a huge storm that clobbered that area on the days she was supposed to come last winter! I'm pretty sure she got 2-3 paid snow days lol.

[shauni27]

Oct 23, 2023 11:04:57 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

If it's gonna be cold, it should snow. Otherwise, let it be summer.

this is how I feel. As northern new englanders whose family income is dependent on a successful ski season, I always want snow, but in general I just feel like there is no point of it being cold if there is not fun snow on the ground. Just like in summer if it is going to be hot it should also be sunny, lol.

[cattledogkisses]

Oct 23, 2023 13:04:53 GMT -5 circa1978 said:

Aside from climate change implications, this honestly thrills me. I hate cold weather and the St. Louis area can go either way in the winter. Last year we had almost no snow. I'd be fine signing up for the exact same winter this year.

Same.  I know climate change is bad, but on a personal level I would love a warm winter (and so would my heating bill).

[redheadbaker]

Edited because I wrote "frost" as "frosting" because ::looks at username::

The Philly area just got its first frost warning. It's usually not until November!

@@@@@

I bought new snow boots for DS, so I'm pretty sure we won't get any snow. We'll cold days, and wet days, but not at the same time.

[rubytue]

Oct 23, 2023 16:46:24 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

Edited because I wrote "frost" as "frosting" because ::looks at username::

The Philly area just got its first frost warning. It's usually not until November!

@@@@@

I bought new snow boots for DS, so I'm pretty sure we won't get any snow. We'll cold days, and wet days, but not at the same time.

Interesting, we have one for tonight, too. But it’s right on time. Usually the end of October, per this graphic that came across my FB feed yesterday

edit - I had only looked and processed my area on this (central MD). Didn’t even notice it went up to PA. 

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[wawa]

Oct 23, 2023 16:56:15 GMT -5 rubytue said:

Oct 23, 2023 16:46:24 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

Edited because I wrote "frost" as "frosting" because ::looks at username::

The Philly area just got its first frost warning. It's usually not until November!

@@@@@

I bought new snow boots for DS, so I'm pretty sure we won't get any snow. We'll cold days, and wet days, but not at the same time.

Interesting, we have one for tonight, too. But it’s right on time. Usually the end of October, per this graphic that came across my FB feed yesterday

edit - I had only looked and processed my area on this (central MD). Didn’t even notice it went up to PA. 

dammit...so you're saying I need to do something about my fig tree?  can I just leave it outside till it drops the leaves??

[rubytue]

Oct 23, 2023 20:23:44 GMT -5 wawa said:

Oct 23, 2023 16:56:15 GMT -5 rubytue said:

Interesting, we have one for tonight, too. But it’s right on time. Usually the end of October, per this graphic that came across my FB feed yesterday

edit - I had only looked and processed my area on this (central MD). Didn’t even notice it went up to PA. 

dammit...so you're saying I need to do something about my fig tree?  can I just leave it outside till it drops the leaves??

Leave it out til the leaves drop, then put it in a garage. At least that’s what I do with mine. 

[wawa]

Oct 23, 2023 20:28:42 GMT -5 rubytue said:

Oct 23, 2023 20:23:44 GMT -5 wawa said:

dammit...so you're saying I need to do something about my fig tree?  can I just leave it outside till it drops the leaves??

Leave it out til the leaves drop, then put it in a garage. At least that’s what I do with mine. 

i don't yet have a garage (I have a set of plans for a garage....but no garage) so it's gonna have to go in the shed.  Since it's not attached to the house obviously I've got more freeze risk.  I'm thinking about wrapping it up in there. hopefully that'll do it.  

I didn't get any figs off it (it started the year as just a little stubby rooted cutting, so not hugely shocked there) but it grew a TON so I'd love if it didn't die back.