I've had great luck so I wanted to make the recommendation since people are having issues with insurance and supply for their scrip.
My insurance is awful and refused to cover a single thing. There's coupons for a lot of pharmacies that brings it closer to like $10 as well for 30 days.
I get you're trying to be helpful. But.
I think you'll find most of us that are on this medication (MJ/Oz/compound) have probably tried it before with little/no success, or had bad side effects. Phentermine is a temporary appetite suppressant that can cause heart palpitations and other issues for a lot of people (it's speed-adjacent), and it's not recommended to be taken for longer than 3 months. I was on Contrave (wellbutrin and naltrexone) and hated it due to the side effects. So a suggestion that we just go and take phentermine is... tone deaf at best.
This is a manufacturer production issue because they can't keep up with demand. They need to fix their supply issues.
I think this is rather harsh. It was suggested in good faith as a possible option. Plenty of us haven't tried everything.
I think you'll find most of us that are on this medication (MJ/Oz/compound) have probably tried it before with little/no success, or had bad side effects. Phentermine is a temporary appetite suppressant that can cause heart palpitations and other issues for a lot of people (it's speed-adjacent), and it's not recommended to be taken for longer than 3 months. I was on Contrave (wellbutrin and naltrexone) and hated it due to the side effects. So a suggestion that we just go and take phentermine is... tone deaf at best.
This is a manufacturer production issue because they can't keep up with demand. They need to fix their supply issues.
I think this is rather harsh. It was suggested in good faith as a possible option. Plenty of us haven't tried everything.
Fair enough. Seemed a little 'la-dee-da, just do this' when so many have struggled for so long, but I get that reaction too. Thanks for the check.
ETA: My ire wasn't entirely directed at PP, either - it was more to the manufacturers inability to catch up. But PP, I'm sorry my response is on the harsh side.
I've had great luck so I wanted to make the recommendation since people are having issues with insurance and supply for their scrip.
My insurance is awful and refused to cover a single thing. There's coupons for a lot of pharmacies that brings it closer to like $10 as well for 30 days.
I get you're trying to be helpful. But.
I think you'll find most of us that are on this medication (MJ/Oz/compound) have probably tried it before with little/no success, or had bad side effects. Phentermine is a temporary appetite suppressant that can cause heart palpitations and other issues for a lot of people (it's speed-adjacent), and it's not recommended to be taken for longer than 3 months. I was on Contrave (wellbutrin and naltrexone) and hated it due to the side effects. So a suggestion that we just go and take phentermine is... tone deaf at best.
This is a manufacturer production issue because they can't keep up with demand. They need to fix their supply issues.
I just wanted to provide some potentially helpful info of something that has been a life saver, for me. I'm 100% not a dr so for sure I wouldn't expect someone to just go buy phentermine without a discussion with their dr. It's a scrip not OTC anyway.
I'm sorry Contrave didn't work for you.
I don't think everyone has issues with amphetamine drugs, as I did wonderful on Wellbutrin for depression and now phentermine, hence my rec to look into it for those having issues with their current med.
I can’t fill my mounjaro anymore due to availability issues, and Walgreen’s has no idea when it will be back. Meanwhile my food thoughts are constant again, and I am snacking all the damn time. I basically need it to be a normal human (plus I have a type 2 diagnosis and my A1C was fantastic on it). I am worried about what to do next if Wegovy also has supply issues.
I skipped to page 10, but have you tried or heard of phentermine?
I've decided I'm not going to inject my Mounjaro in my stomach anymore because when I do I end up so nauseous and usually throw up the day after my shot. ugh Just barfed so much at work but now I feel much better. I'll stick to my arm or thigh. And I'm on my 2nd month of 5mg so its not moving up in dose or anything that is causing it. Anyone else have this issue?
I've decided I'm not going to inject my Mounjaro in my stomach anymore because when I do I end up so nauseous and usually throw up the day after my shot. ugh Just barfed so much at work but now I feel much better. I'll stick to my arm or thigh. And I'm on my 2nd month of 5mg so its not moving up in dose or anything that is causing it. Anyone else have this issue?
I always inject Mounjaro in my stomach, but I've noticed that if I use my lower stomach I feel better, but it's not as effective.
egishere I think once you've been on a dose longer you could try stomach injection again and see if you react better. I did a stomach injection last week after 3 months on this dose and was fine but when I tried it after 1 month I got super sick.
I'm still very plateaued on Wegovy 2.4. And taking daily naps like I was on .25. I'm finishing out what's in my fridge and then going to see about going back down to 1.7. I've lost 43 lbs which is between 10-15% of my starting weight and maybe I won't lose more (15% is the average) but I would at least like to be less fatigued.
I think you'll find most of us that are on this medication (MJ/Oz/compound) have probably tried it before with little/no success, or had bad side effects. Phentermine is a temporary appetite suppressant that can cause heart palpitations and other issues for a lot of people (it's speed-adjacent), and it's not recommended to be taken for longer than 3 months. I was on Contrave (wellbutrin and naltrexone) and hated it due to the side effects. So a suggestion that we just go and take phentermine is... tone deaf at best.
This is a manufacturer production issue because they can't keep up with demand. They need to fix their supply issues.
I just wanted to provide some potentially helpful info of something that has been a life saver, for me. I'm 100% not a dr so for sure I wouldn't expect someone to just go buy phentermine without a discussion with their dr. It's a scrip not OTC anyway.
I'm sorry Contrave didn't work for you.
I don't think everyone has issues with amphetamine drugs, as I did wonderful on Wellbutrin for depression and now phentermine, hence my rec to look into it for those having issues with their current med.
The best luck to you on your journey. 🙂
I want to clarify this so that if there is anyone lurking they don't get the misinformation.
Phentermine is not an amphetamine. It is a stimulant that works to suppress appetite. Due to being a stimulant, it is a controlled substance.
Wellbutrin is also not an amphetamine. It is an antidepressant that works for appetite suppression as well as smoking cessation. It makes up part of the medication Contrave, which also includes Naltrexone.
Phentermine should only be used for 3 months at a time due to the cardiovascular side effects
Contrave should be discontinued if there is <5% weight loss after 3 months.
pugz you look amazing! I love progress pics- they are so inspiring to me. Booo on fatigue though. That’s the worst.
I’m down 18lbs so far on Zepbound 2.5. Hoping for 10-12 by the beginning of June when I chaperone a bunch of high schoolers in DC for a week. Hoping less weight will make the miles of walking easier!
I have lost 15.8 lbs so far. My first check up is next week, so I am interested to see what my blood work says. I think 1.0 of Wegovy is the best dose so far. I still get hungry but my appetite is more suppressed than before. I still get really tired the day after my shot, does that ever go away?
I was able to get Ozempic! I could cry from relief. I forgot how all/consuming and constant my food thoughts were and my snacking compulsions, and I can’t wait to start it tomorrow morning and have peace again!! Here’s hoping I tolerate it as well as Mounjaro, which never made me feel sick.
Post by doggielover on Apr 24, 2024 8:52:38 GMT -5
I'm jumping on this train with you guys. I just got prescribed ozempic and was able to pick it up yesterday. Thankfully my insurance covered at 100%. Ideally I want to lose 60lbs and my A1C while in range is slightly higher than my cardiologist wants. I had a heart attack back on March 1 and reached my dry weight. I lost almost 60 pounds just in fluid while in the hospital. I am planning to start it on Saturday for ease of remembering and I've heard to horror stories on the side effects.
I just wanted to provide some potentially helpful info of something that has been a life saver, for me. I'm 100% not a dr so for sure I wouldn't expect someone to just go buy phentermine without a discussion with their dr. It's a scrip not OTC anyway.
I'm sorry Contrave didn't work for you.
I don't think everyone has issues with amphetamine drugs, as I did wonderful on Wellbutrin for depression and now phentermine, hence my rec to look into it for those having issues with their current med.
The best luck to you on your journey. 🙂
I want to clarify this so that if there is anyone lurking they don't get the misinformation.
Phentermine is not an amphetamine. It is a stimulant that works to suppress appetite. Due to being a stimulant, it is a controlled substance.
Wellbutrin is also not an amphetamine. It is an antidepressant that works for appetite suppression as well as smoking cessation. It makes up part of the medication Contrave, which also includes Naltrexone.
Phentermine should only be used for 3 months at a time due to the cardiovascular side effects
Contrave should be discontinued if there is <5% weight loss after 3 months.
My insurance covers zero.
I tried Phentermine and it did nothing - no side effects but also no appetite suppressant or weight loss.
Then tried Naltrexone/Bupropion mix, and I lost, but very little. Then I had to switch doctors and the new one would not prescribe it (cause he never heard of it for weight loss which honestly made me rage!)
Currently using Saxenda which I get out of the country and have lost about 17 lbs since December. I am considering switching to Mochi to get the compounded version of Wegovy which would hopefully be a bit more effective.
Post by picksthemusic on Apr 24, 2024 10:25:34 GMT -5
I hit 50lbs loss yesterday!! I never, ever thought I'd be able to do that in my life. I still have about 20 to go (though DH is hinting that he's happy with where I'm at currently), but I am just SO happy with this progress. This medication is literally a miracle, and I'm so grateful that it exists.
pugz, you look great! The progress is definitely noticeable!
Post by somersault72 on Apr 24, 2024 10:37:40 GMT -5
I've hit my first official plateau (no real weight gain since between my last 2 doctor visits). I'm already a "success story" (lost 21% of my total body weight), but I am still technically obese and I'm sure at least 30lbs from where I'd like to be. I have lost between 60 and 70 lbs for which I am happy and grateful. I talked to my provider and I have not been exercising, so I will try this, which I need to do anyway for SO many reasons, and if the scale still doesn't start to move I think I will try Zepbound (currently on Wegovy) if I can find it at my next visit. I STILL am getting compliments from people even though the scale hasn't really moved in 3 months, so that is nice. I also did a course of Accutane for my decades long acne issue so I really feel like a new person lately.
FWIW, I DID try phentermine in the form of Qsymia 3-4 years ago. I did lose weight about 20lbs on it, but I definitely worried about it affecting my heart. It didn't to my knowledge, but I worried about it.
Congratulations to all who've been having success! As someone who has had weight issues my entire adult life, this has been a life changer!
Switched to tirz from sema this morning after plateauing a while (hit nearly a 24% reduction in weight, so may be done with sema). I'm still considered overweight, so I'm hoping to drop another 20-40lbs.
I have lost 15.8 lbs so far. My first check up is next week, so I am interested to see what my blood work says. I think 1.0 of Wegovy is the best dose so far. I still get hungry but my appetite is more suppressed than before. I still get really tired the day after my shot, does that ever go away?
Day after fatigue went away after a couple of months on 1.7. But for 2.4 I feel like it is getting worse, or something else is going on, not sure what.
Post by soccermama on Apr 24, 2024 12:11:55 GMT -5
(Hope its okay for me to put this here)... I had a productive appointment with my dietician this morning. After almost a year of working on all of this from being diagnosed as T2D, have been on ozempic and metformin for a year....finally over the last 6 weeks or so my blood sugar/numbers are the best they have been this whole time. Which is great news.
The not great news is that I really haven't lost any weight. Which is SUPER frustrating. After I was diagnosed and starting taking the meds, I did lose about 7-8 lbs...which I have put back on plus a few more. I need to lose about 35-40 lbs to be at a healthy weight. My dietician asked me to start counting calories for the next 2 weeks and then we will reevaluate.
I just wanted to provide some potentially helpful info of something that has been a life saver, for me. I'm 100% not a dr so for sure I wouldn't expect someone to just go buy phentermine without a discussion with their dr. It's a scrip not OTC anyway.
I'm sorry Contrave didn't work for you.
I don't think everyone has issues with amphetamine drugs, as I did wonderful on Wellbutrin for depression and now phentermine, hence my rec to look into it for those having issues with their current med.
The best luck to you on your journey. 🙂
I want to clarify this so that if there is anyone lurking they don't get the misinformation.
Phentermine is not an amphetamine. It is a stimulant that works to suppress appetite. Due to being a stimulant, it is a controlled substance.Â
Wellbutrin is also not an amphetamine. It is an antidepressant that works for appetite suppression as well as smoking cessation. It makes up part of the medication Contrave, which also includes Naltrexone.
Phentermine should only be used for 3 months at a time due to the cardiovascular side effects
Contrave should be discontinued if there is <5% weight loss after 3 months.
I do believe phentermine is a cousin of an amphetamine. I am not a professional on this matter. This is what my Dr told me.
Phentermine is not showing long term cardiovascular effects the way you stated. Of course, I'm not a dr, speak with yours, etc. Here is a study showing the opposite
I want to clarify this so that if there is anyone lurking they don't get the misinformation.
Phentermine is not an amphetamine. It is a stimulant that works to suppress appetite. Due to being a stimulant, it is a controlled substance.Â
Wellbutrin is also not an amphetamine. It is an antidepressant that works for appetite suppression as well as smoking cessation. It makes up part of the medication Contrave, which also includes Naltrexone.
Phentermine should only be used for 3 months at a time due to the cardiovascular side effects
Contrave should be discontinued if there is <5% weight loss after 3 months.
I do believe phentermine is a cousin of an amphetamine. I am not a professional on this matter. This is what my Dr told me.
Phentermine is not showing long term cardiovascular effects the way you stated. Of course, I'm not a dr, speak with yours, etc. Here is a study showing the opposite
Sure, if you want to get down to the details about it, it’s r/t amphetamines. Doesn’t make it an amphetamine and a blanket statement of “it’s an amphetamine”is misleading. It also doesn’t show up across the board on a UDS but can cause false positives, as can many different meds.
It can be a great tool. It doesn’t mean it’s great for everyone. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t have serious side effects. Do I prescribe it? Absolutely. Medicine is not black and white and you shouldn’t believe it to be.
I do believe phentermine is a cousin of an amphetamine. I am not a professional on this matter. This is what my Dr told me.
Phentermine is not showing long term cardiovascular effects the way you stated. Of course, I'm not a dr, speak with yours, etc. Here is a study showing the opposite
Sure, if you want to get down to the details about it, it’s r/t amphetamines. Doesn’t make it an amphetamine and a blanket statement of “it’s an amphetamine”is misleading. It also doesn’t show up across the board on a UDS but can cause false positives, as can many different meds.
It can be a great tool. It doesn’t mean it’s great for everyone. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t have serious side effects. Do I prescribe it? Absolutely. Medicine is not black and white and you shouldn’t believe it to be.
I definitely do not believe medicine is black and white. Hence, speak to your PCP. Again, it's a scrip so (general) you would need to speak to your PCP anyway and hopefully discuss whether the medicine is a good fit for (general) you.
I felt your statement about cardiovascular effects after 3 months were a bit misleading, personally.
Post by followyourarrow on Apr 26, 2024 8:00:38 GMT -5
I did 8 weeks of Mounjaro at 5, and I've done 6 weeks of 7.5. I hit 30lbs lost this morning. I have an appointment next week and I'm thinking I'll ask to move up to 10. I feel like the food noise is coming back and my blood sugar is averaging 116 and I'd like to drop it just a little lower yet.
I did 8 weeks of Mounjaro at 5, and I've done 6 weeks of 7.5. I hit 30lbs lost this morning. I have an appointment next week and I'm thinking I'll ask to move up to 10. I feel like the food noise is coming back and my blood sugar is averaging 116 and I'd like to drop it just a little lower yet.
30 lbs lost is great!
Is Mounjaro hard to find in stock? That is one my insurance won't cover at all, but at this point if I haven't found Zepbound anywhere by my next appt., I might offer to pay out of pocket for a month or two if that one is easy to find. Getting desperate over here and not liking seeing the scale go up instead of down.
I did 8 weeks of Mounjaro at 5, and I've done 6 weeks of 7.5. I hit 30lbs lost this morning. I have an appointment next week and I'm thinking I'll ask to move up to 10. I feel like the food noise is coming back and my blood sugar is averaging 116 and I'd like to drop it just a little lower yet.
30 lbs lost is great!
Is Mounjaro hard to find in stock? That is one my insurance won't cover at all, but at this point if I haven't found Zepbound anywhere by my next appt., I might offer to pay out of pocket for a month or two if that one is easy to find. Getting desperate over here and not liking seeing the scale go up instead of down.
So far I haven't had issues finding it, Walmart has had it. I can't get it through my smaller, local pharmacies.