The Secret Lives of "Mormon" Wives

[sproctopus]

Sept 17, 2024 9:14:09 GMT -5 shauni27 said:

I also keep thinking that this is a great example of how money does not buy you good taste.

Countess Luann de Lessops once sang a beautiful song about this.

[donutsmakemegonuts]

Sept 17, 2024 9:57:14 GMT -5 sproctopus said:

Sept 17, 2024 9:14:09 GMT -5 shauni27 said:

I also keep thinking that this is a great example of how money does not buy you good taste.

Countess Luann de Lessops once sang a beautiful song about this.

I can't remember what I did yesterday or even this morning, but I can remember the lyrics to this song 

[ellipses84]

Sept 11, 2024 12:45:14 GMT -5 sent said:

livinitup , I grew up going to Catholic school and went to a Catholic college. I feel like I was always surrounded by Catholic kids and college kids who were very much not into following the strict tenets of their church. I can think of like 10 students or fewer that I met during these years who actually wholeheartedly followed Catholicism and didn't stray at all. Then I got to know a lot of Mormons once I got to grad school and residency. They were so much more intense about their religion. There was nothing casual about them at all. They were all cookie cutter. Maybe only the very religious Mormons flock to dental school.

I haven’t watched the show yet. Most of the Mormons I know are extremely religious and strict about the rules of their religion, where the majority of Catholics I know did whatever they wanted, despite going to catholic school, getting married in the church, etc. DH has Mormon relatives and went to college in Utah for a while. I think part of it is they are so concentrated and the entire society revolves around the church, although Utah also has a lot of non-Mormons who band together. Half of their college age experience is spent on their mission, so not much chance to rebel. The few outside of Utah I knew who did rebel felt immense guilt for doing things like drinking or having sex. My high school had a pretty small Mormon population but they all married other Mormons (and several guys became dentists, ha!) I think with social media a lot of the younger generation is being exposed to other lifestyles in ways they never were before.

[sakoro]

Sept 17, 2024 10:21:17 GMT -5 ellipses84 said:

Sept 11, 2024 12:45:14 GMT -5 sent said:

livinitup , I grew up going to Catholic school and went to a Catholic college. I feel like I was always surrounded by Catholic kids and college kids who were very much not into following the strict tenets of their church. I can think of like 10 students or fewer that I met during these years who actually wholeheartedly followed Catholicism and didn't stray at all. Then I got to know a lot of Mormons once I got to grad school and residency. They were so much more intense about their religion. There was nothing casual about them at all. They were all cookie cutter. Maybe only the very religious Mormons flock to dental school.

I haven’t watched the show yet. Most of the Mormons I know are extremely religious and strict about the rules of their religion, where the majority of Catholics I know did whatever they wanted, despite going to catholic school, getting married in the church, etc. DH has Mormon relatives and went to college in Utah for a while. I think part of it is they are so concentrated and the entire society revolves around the church, although Utah also has a lot of non-Mormons who band together. Half of their college age experience is spent on their mission, so not much chance to rebel. The few outside of Utah I knew who did rebel felt immense guilt for doing things like drinking or having sex. My high school had a pretty small Mormon population but they all married other Mormons (and several guys became dentists, ha!) I think with social media a lot of the younger generation is being exposed to other lifestyles in ways they never were before.

I dated an ex-Mormon guy for a bit and attended a Catholic high school. I think that the no-alcohol, no-hot beverages (coffee/tea) rule isolates Mormons socially from other young people. Also they aren’t supposed to go out to eat/ shop/ do recreational activities in Sunday’s.

If you attend a BYU campus (free tuition) you have to deal with the student conduct committee which will ask intrusive questions about how closely you’ve followed the rules. Other students will rat you out to the committee. There is nothing equivalent at Catholic colleges (Catholics are supposed to go to confession but there isn’t any enforcement and other students can’t rat you out to your confessor). Finally, during your two year mission, you are supposed to stay close by your partner missionary 24/7 except when bathing or using the toilet. You aren’t allow any reading material except Mormon texts, no TV/movies. You can only call home twice a year and can write emails once a week.

Then when you return from your mission you are pressured to get married as soon as possible and start having children. So you’re locked into the lifestyle at a young age. It makes it hard to relate to other non-Mormon young people who are being encouraged to date and establish a career and who don’t plan on having kids 10+ years later you (or choose to be child free or have 1-2 children). Thankfully some younger Mormons are refusing to go in missions and delaying children.

[shauni27]

Sept 17, 2024 10:34:53 GMT -5 sakoro said:

Sept 17, 2024 10:21:17 GMT -5 ellipses84 said:

I haven’t watched the show yet. Most of the Mormons I know are extremely religious and strict about the rules of their religion, where the majority of Catholics I know did whatever they wanted, despite going to catholic school, getting married in the church, etc. DH has Mormon relatives and went to college in Utah for a while. I think part of it is they are so concentrated and the entire society revolves around the church, although Utah also has a lot of non-Mormons who band together. Half of their college age experience is spent on their mission, so not much chance to rebel. The few outside of Utah I knew who did rebel felt immense guilt for doing things like drinking or having sex. My high school had a pretty small Mormon population but they all married other Mormons (and several guys became dentists, ha!) I think with social media a lot of the younger generation is being exposed to other lifestyles in ways they never were before.

I dated an ex-Mormon guy for a bit and attended a Catholic high school. I think that the no-alcohol, no-hot beverages (coffee/tea) rule isolates Mormons socially from other young people. Also they aren’t supposed to go out to eat/ shop/ do recreational activities in Sunday’s.

If you attend a BYU campus (free tuition) you have to deal with the student conduct committee which will ask intrusive questions about how closely you’ve followed the rules. Other students will rat you out to the committee. There is nothing equivalent at Catholic colleges (Catholics are supposed to go to confession but there isn’t any enforcement and other students can’t rat you out to your confessor). Finally, during your two year mission, you are supposed to stay close by your partner missionary 24/7 except when bathing or using the toilet. You aren’t allow any reading material except Mormon texts, no TV/movies. You can only call home twice a year and can write emails once a week.

Then when you return from your mission you are pressured to get married as soon as possible and start having children. So you’re locked into the lifestyle at a young age. It makes it hard to relate to other non-Mormon young people who are being encouraged to date and establish a career and who don’t plan on having kids 10+ years later you (or choose to be child free or have 1-2 children). Thankfully some younger Mormons are refusing to go in missions and delaying children.

THIS is what I want to watch a show on. Like, how do they think this is normal?!

[eb777888]

Sept 17, 2024 6:41:39 GMT -5 shauni27 said:

This was just like watching a younger version of real housewives, which I hate.

This is exactly what is was to me as well. I am a Housewives fan and the entire time I was thinking it was like the prequel to RH-Salt Lake City, "When they were young" edition. 

[Jalapeñomel]

Sept 17, 2024 11:14:55 GMT -5 shauni27 said:

Sept 17, 2024 10:34:53 GMT -5 sakoro said:

I dated an ex-Mormon guy for a bit and attended a Catholic high school. I think that the no-alcohol, no-hot beverages (coffee/tea) rule isolates Mormons socially from other young people. Also they aren’t supposed to go out to eat/ shop/ do recreational activities in Sunday’s.

If you attend a BYU campus (free tuition) you have to deal with the student conduct committee which will ask intrusive questions about how closely you’ve followed the rules. Other students will rat you out to the committee. There is nothing equivalent at Catholic colleges (Catholics are supposed to go to confession but there isn’t any enforcement and other students can’t rat you out to your confessor). Finally, during your two year mission, you are supposed to stay close by your partner missionary 24/7 except when bathing or using the toilet. You aren’t allow any reading material except Mormon texts, no TV/movies. You can only call home twice a year and can write emails once a week.

Then when you return from your mission you are pressured to get married as soon as possible and start having children. So you’re locked into the lifestyle at a young age. It makes it hard to relate to other non-Mormon young people who are being encouraged to date and establish a career and who don’t plan on having kids 10+ years later you (or choose to be child free or have 1-2 children). Thankfully some younger Mormons are refusing to go in missions and delaying children.

THIS is what I want to watch a show on. Like, how do they think this is normal?!

You should see their college bio text! 

[sent]

Sept 17, 2024 11:37:33 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

Sept 17, 2024 11:14:55 GMT -5 shauni27 said:

THIS is what I want to watch a show on. Like, how do they think this is normal?!

You should see their college bio text! 

Is it creationist stuff like they don't believe in evolution?

[shauni27]

Sept 17, 2024 12:07:43 GMT -5 sent said:

Sept 17, 2024 11:37:33 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

You should see their college bio text! 

Is it creationist stuff like they don't believe in evolution?

yeah, I want to see this text! I am googling but apparently suck at it, lol. Jalapeñomel

[Jalapeñomel]

Sept 17, 2024 12:07:43 GMT -5 sent said:

Sept 17, 2024 11:37:33 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

You should see their college bio text! 

Is it creationist stuff like they don't believe in evolution?

Sept 17, 2024 12:09:03 GMT -5 shauni27 said:

Sept 17, 2024 12:07:43 GMT -5 sent said:

Is it creationist stuff like they don't believe in evolution?

yeah, I want to see this text! I am googling but apparently suck at it, lol. Jalapeñomel

I can't find where I original read about it, so here is a YouTube link...and with anything from YouTube, grain of salt and all. 


www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmp__fCVPvs

Update to the video: www.facebook.com/watch/?v=442504251009607


EDIT: I must've gone down a reddit hole on it, because there are lots of links there. 

[ssmjlm]

Liberty University in Virginia has a similar strict setup for the school. DH had a coworker's kid go there. He reported his roommate for a violent video game.

[sakoro]

Sept 17, 2024 11:14:55 GMT -5 shauni27 said:

Sept 17, 2024 10:34:53 GMT -5 sakoro said:

I dated an ex-Mormon guy for a bit and attended a Catholic high school. I think that the no-alcohol, no-hot beverages (coffee/tea) rule isolates Mormons socially from other young people. Also they aren’t supposed to go out to eat/ shop/ do recreational activities in Sunday’s.

If you attend a BYU campus (free tuition) you have to deal with the student conduct committee which will ask intrusive questions about how closely you’ve followed the rules. Other students will rat you out to the committee. There is nothing equivalent at Catholic colleges (Catholics are supposed to go to confession but there isn’t any enforcement and other students can’t rat you out to your confessor). Finally, during your two year mission, you are supposed to stay close by your partner missionary 24/7 except when bathing or using the toilet. You aren’t allow any reading material except Mormon texts, no TV/movies. You can only call home twice a year and can write emails once a week.

Then when you return from your mission you are pressured to get married as soon as possible and start having children. So you’re locked into the lifestyle at a young age. It makes it hard to relate to other non-Mormon young people who are being encouraged to date and establish a career and who don’t plan on having kids 10+ years later you (or choose to be child free or have 1-2 children). Thankfully some younger Mormons are refusing to go in missions and delaying children.

THIS is what I want to watch a show on. Like, how do they think this is normal?!

There are a lot of ex-Mormon content creators— here are a few reacting to the show. Alyssa Grenfell and Jordan and McKay.

[shauni27]

Sept 17, 2024 12:47:58 GMT -5 sakoro said:

Sept 17, 2024 11:14:55 GMT -5 shauni27 said:

THIS is what I want to watch a show on. Like, how do they think this is normal?!

There are a lot of ex-Mormon content creators— here are a few reacting to the show. Alyssa Grenfell and Jordan and McKay.

well that was a fun rabbit hole to go down! Thanks

[Saudade]

I have so many thoughts that I can’t quite compile into a coherent post. My most recent ex bf is ex Mormon. Got lots of good details from that. He’s the only one in his family to leave the church.

My freshman year in HS we got involved with these two guys who were raised Fundamental LDS….obvs way different. It was fascinating. We’d go to these parties and all18 year old me wanted to do was grill them about their childhood. They were clearly *not* following the rules but did say that once they moved back to Utah they’d be back in the thick of it.

[killercupcake]

I’m obsessed with Mormonism in general so this was a must watch. Vegas is Mormon country, so I grew up with a lot of them. So fascinating.

And Zac looks like the religious zealot from Contact. Acts like him, too.

[basilosaurus]

Sept 17, 2024 8:45:34 GMT -5 ssmjlm said:

Sept 17, 2024 6:41:39 GMT -5 shauni27 said:

ETA: I also keep thinking "what does the church think of this show?" and will they be excommunicated in the near future. What do the families of these people think? Etc. 

I wonder if they're at the point that any press is good press?

I mean, this is a religion that allows people to be baptized in place of dead relatives to claim they're Mormon. 

Not just relatives. They baptized so many people who perished in the Holocaust, numerous times. They claim to have stopped, Then it leaks they restarted. They apologize and stop again. Rinse repeat. 

I'm with those who think so long as they keep tithing they won't be excommunicated. They are a business first and foremost.

I think that divorce isn't an automatic excommunication at least not anymore. They probably have to get approval from bishops, though.

As for the rest, hooboy, I mostly feel sorry for these women but also really annoyed at teehee we're such rebels. It gives we're the FUN mormon vibes. The church probably thinks it's good for recruiting ie getting more money.

[basilosaurus]

If you're looking for a rabbit hole, exmormon.org can take up hours. I hadn't looked at it in many years, but it's still around (just checked). It's bb style format, so it's like a time warp. Much like many of the church's positions.

[shauni27]

I also keep wondering how Ben Affleck's PR team is handling this. I can picture them all smacking their hands to their heads like "we already have enough to deal with. please stop using his last name on your show. We cannot associate with even more crazy." lol

[gretchenindisguise]

Sept 19, 2024 7:17:21 GMT -5 shauni27 said:

I also keep wondering how Ben Affleck's PR team is handling this. I can picture them all smacking their hands to their heads like "we already have enough to deal with. please stop using his last name on your show. We cannot associate with even more crazy." lol

It absolutely cracks me up every single time Jen's name is on the screen with her last name. 

[scm1011]

Sept 20, 2024 10:44:45 GMT -5 gretchenindisguise said:

Sept 19, 2024 7:17:21 GMT -5 shauni27 said:

I also keep wondering how Ben Affleck's PR team is handling this. I can picture them all smacking their hands to their heads like "we already have enough to deal with. please stop using his last name on your show. We cannot associate with even more crazy." lol

It absolutely cracks me up every single time Jen's name is on the screen with her last name. 

I got such second hand embarrassment. Its so desperate! 

[notreal]

Well, this show is popular enough it has inspired internet detectives. People on the web have traced both Zac Affleck and Ben Affleck's genealogy back to Scotland and have found no common ancestor.

[Jalapeñomel]

Sept 24, 2024 9:55:04 GMT -5 notreal said:

Well, this show is popular enough it has inspired internet detectives. People on the web have traced both Zac Affleck and Ben Affleck's genealogy back to Scotland and have found no common ancestor.

I saw this and laughed!