Project 2025

[sonrisa]

A link to the full text.


static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf

[wise_rita]

Fuck these fascists and fuck every single person who voted for him.

Double fuck each person who deluded themselves into believing this isn't their road map and our lives for the next 4 years (minimum; I'm sure echos will be felt for the remainder of the republic).

[gottadobe]

Thank you for the link

[W.T.Faulkner]

"Social science reports that assess the objective outcomes for children raised in homes aside from a heterosexual, intact marriage are clear: All other family forms involve higher levels of instability (the average length of same-sex marriages is half that of heterosexual marriages); financial stress or poverty; or poorer behavioral, psychological, or educational outcomes. For the sake of child well-being, programs should affirm that children require and deserve both the love and nurturing of a mother and the play and protection of a father."

Like the clown I am, I said to myself, "maybe there's a citation of these 'reports.'" The reports in question appear to be vibes, homophobic and misogynistic vibes.

[janegold]

This reads like it was written by interns. Is it too much to ask that our governmental policy is informed by people who actually know what the hell they're talking about.

[Aloe Vera]

“BUT TRUMP HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS!!111!!!”

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to explain to Trump supporters that this project will be the guidelines of his presidency. Why would most of his friends write it if not for their buddy to implement it?!

[wanderingback]

This is horrific of course.
Excuse my ignorance but are there Democratic leaning think tanks with a document like this?

[wise_rita]

Nov 7, 2024 13:19:27 GMT -5 W.T.Faulkner said:

For the sake of child well-being, programs should affirm that children require and deserve both the love and nurturing of a mother and the play and protection of a father."

What in the actual fuck?

Dog whistle "get back into the kitchen" a little louder, you fascist cunts.

[wawa]

Nov 7, 2024 13:38:56 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

This is horrific of course.
Excuse my ignorance but are there Democratic leaning think tanks with a document like this?

(serious question) when you say "like this", do you you mean hateful and poorly sourced or just like, the dem version of an all encompassing roadmap/manifesto?

[wanderingback]

Nov 7, 2024 14:12:17 GMT -5 wawa said:

Nov 7, 2024 13:38:56 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

This is horrific of course.
Excuse my ignorance but are there Democratic leaning think tanks with a document like this?

(serious question) when you say "like this", do you you mean hateful and poorly sourced or just like, the dem version of an all encompassing roadmap/manifesto?

An all encompassing roadmap.

[lavenderblue]

I fully admit to not fully understanding this statement, but this can't be a good thing, right?

Free Banking. In free banking, neither interest rates nor the supply of money
is controlled by the government. The Federal Reserve is effectively abolished, and
the Department of the Treasury largely limits itself to handling the government’s
money. Regions of the U.S. actually had a similar system, known as the “Suffolk
System,” from 1824 until the 1850s, and it minimized both inflation and economic
disruption while allowing lending to flourish

[laladypoet]

www.axios.com/2024/11/07/trump-project-2025-second-term-agenda

[basilosaurus]

Nov 7, 2024 14:37:11 GMT -5 lavenderblue said:

I fully admit to not fully understanding this statement, but this can't be a good thing, right?

Free Banking. In free banking, neither interest rates nor the supply of money
is controlled by the government. The Federal Reserve is effectively abolished, and
the Department of the Treasury largely limits itself to handling the government’s
money. Regions of the U.S. actually had a similar system, known as the “Suffolk
System,” from 1824 until the 1850s, and it minimized both inflation and economic
disruption while allowing lending to flourish

I cannot imagine anything from the mid 19th century being good in the 21st. 

[mrsslocombe]

Nov 7, 2024 14:37:11 GMT -5 lavenderblue said:

I fully admit to not fully understanding this statement, but this can't be a good thing, right?

Free Banking. In free banking, neither interest rates nor the supply of money
is controlled by the government. The Federal Reserve is effectively abolished, and
the Department of the Treasury largely limits itself to handling the government’s
money. Regions of the U.S. actually had a similar system, known as the “Suffolk
System,” from 1824 until the 1850s, and it minimized both inflation and economic
disruption while allowing lending to flourish

Not an expert, by any means...

But this is the sort of theory that libertarians and "free market" capitalists think works. And in pure theory, does. But we don't actually have a free market capitalist system. Just like they think that you don't need environmental regulations because if a company pollutes your water, you will just stop supporting that company and the "market" will punish them. 

[bugandbibs]

Nov 7, 2024 14:37:11 GMT -5 lavenderblue said:

I fully admit to not fully understanding this statement, but this can't be a good thing, right?

Free Banking. In free banking, neither interest rates nor the supply of money
is controlled by the government. The Federal Reserve is effectively abolished, and
the Department of the Treasury largely limits itself to handling the government’s
money. Regions of the U.S. actually had a similar system, known as the “Suffolk
System,” from 1824 until the 1850s, and it minimized both inflation and economic
disruption while allowing lending to flourish

Just off hand, any banking system designed for white men to thrive isn't a system I want to go back too.  

[wawa]

Nov 7, 2024 14:37:11 GMT -5 lavenderblue said:

I fully admit to not fully understanding this statement, but this can't be a good thing, right?

Free Banking. In free banking, neither interest rates nor the supply of money
is controlled by the government. The Federal Reserve is effectively abolished, and
the Department of the Treasury largely limits itself to handling the government’s
money. Regions of the U.S. actually had a similar system, known as the “Suffolk
System,” from 1824 until the 1850s, and it minimized both inflation and economic
disruption while allowing lending to flourish

So...bitcoin?   

I just googled the Suffolk System and I'm not  at all an expert, but i don't think it does what they're saying??

The idea that lending is not currently flourishing is....HIFUCKINGLAROIUS.  somebody tell the finance bro's they aren't flourishing.

[cville]

This is so demoralizing.

[karinothing]

Nov 7, 2024 16:23:59 GMT -5 wawa said:

Nov 7, 2024 14:37:11 GMT -5 lavenderblue said:

I fully admit to not fully understanding this statement, but this can't be a good thing, right?

Free Banking. In free banking, neither interest rates nor the supply of money
is controlled by the government. The Federal Reserve is effectively abolished, and
the Department of the Treasury largely limits itself to handling the government’s
money. Regions of the U.S. actually had a similar system, known as the “Suffolk
System,” from 1824 until the 1850s, and it minimized both inflation and economic
disruption while allowing lending to flourish

So...bitcoin?   

I just googled the Suffolk System and I'm not  at all an expert, but i don't think it does what they're saying??

The idea that lending is not currently flourishing is....HIFUCKINGLAROIUS.  somebody tell the finance bro's they aren't flourishing.

There is concern that this is one of the reasons that Elon has gotten to buddy buddy with the admin. So crypto can take over. 

[expatjen]

This is effing frightening. I am so afraid for my children.

[Michelle]

Is this really the first time many of you are reading it?

I read most of it and was posting bits of it to FB in an effort to try to shake people awake.

Obviously didn't work.

[sonrisa]

Nov 7, 2024 16:58:04 GMT -5 Michelle said:

Is this really the first time many of you are reading it?

I read most of it and was posting bits of it to FB in an effort to try to shake people awake.

Obviously didn't work.

honestly, I hadn’t read it in months. Now I’m reading it in depth since those little details matter. I dont think it covers all the damage they will do, but it is a preview on some specifics. Plenty of awful Trump ‘promises’ aren’t included.

[rubytue]

Nov 7, 2024 14:55:23 GMT -5 mrsslocombe said:

Nov 7, 2024 14:37:11 GMT -5 lavenderblue said:

I fully admit to not fully understanding this statement, but this can't be a good thing, right?

Free Banking. In free banking, neither interest rates nor the supply of money
is controlled by the government. The Federal Reserve is effectively abolished, and
the Department of the Treasury largely limits itself to handling the government’s
money. Regions of the U.S. actually had a similar system, known as the “Suffolk
System,” from 1824 until the 1850s, and it minimized both inflation and economic
disruption while allowing lending to flourish

Not an expert, by any means...

But this is the sort of theory that libertarians and "free market" capitalists think works. And in pure theory, does. But we don't actually have a free market capitalist system. Just like they think that you don't need environmental regulations because if a company pollutes your water, you will just stop supporting that company and the "market" will punish them. 

There is so much I would like to say about this, as someone that has been a regulator for 20+ years. Maybe once I’m scheduled F’ed, I’ll let it all out. I’ll just leave it with we need a well regulated market (and enforce well regulated elsewhere in the constitution). 

I do have a YouTube channel and Instagram handle parked for that day. 

edit - I’d also like to point out the free market purists also tend to argue for tort reform. But, the ability to enact a cost on bad things is part of the free market. So, you know, you have to be able to sue for 3 million dollars to make the cost of the bad thing higher than the cost of ignoring the bad thing. 

[candreco]

So are they planning to enact this slowly, eroding programs and rights a little at a time so people don't realize they're being boiled alive like lobsters? Or are they just going to go at it like a to do list from day 1? My hope is that it's the former, and their economic policies tank the economy fast enough that people are fed up within the first two years and we get a resulting blue wave at midterms.

Midterms are going to be do or die for democracy. We have GOT to get control of both the Senate and House to stop as much of this shit as possible from becoming law.

[fernweh]

Nov 8, 2024 13:16:29 GMT -5 candreco said:

So are they planning to enact this slowly, eroding programs and rights a little at a time so people don't realize they're being boiled alive like lobsters? Or are they just going to go at it like a to do list from day 1? My hope is that it's the former, and their economic policies tank the economy fast enough that people are fed up within the first two years and we get a resulting blue wave at midterms.

Midterms are going to be do or die for democracy. We have GOT to get control of both the Senate and House to stop as much of this shit as possible from becoming law.

I was wondering this too. I can see where they want to do it fast in case they lose Congress during the midterms and won’t be able to get anything done for the next 2 years. However, if they do it fast people are more likely to see it and hate it and give control on congress to democrats at the midterms.

[mrsslocombe]

Nov 8, 2024 13:16:29 GMT -5 candreco said:

So are they planning to enact this slowly, eroding programs and rights a little at a time so people don't realize they're being boiled alive like lobsters? Or are they just going to go at it like a to do list from day 1? My hope is that it's the former, and their economic policies tank the economy fast enough that people are fed up within the first two years and we get a resulting blue wave at midterms.

Midterms are going to be do or die for democracy. We have GOT to get control of both the Senate and House to stop as much of this shit as possible from becoming law.

I think they are going to do some things right away, or at least announce them. Emergency injunctions, governors refusing to comply, civil servants slow walking things will slow them down a bit. 

I think the effects will take longer to be felt. He's threatened to ban mail order abortion drugs, for instance. A lot of groups have been stock piling these in preparation, so there will be availability for awhile. 

Also, there's a bunch of things he and Congress can do but delay the start of. So they could repeal the ACA, but have it not take effect until 2027. Or late 2028. 

[ellipses84]

This is why I feel there is no reasoning with MAGAts. We sounded the alarms and they told us we were crazy and the day after the election they say they lied and they are rolling out Project 2025 😡 They do not give a fuck. And I’m calling all Republican voters MAGAts now. This is what they voted for.

[laladypoet]

Today I learned about aqua tofana. And so did a lot of other women. So.

[rupertpenny]

Nov 7, 2024 13:19:27 GMT -5 W.T.Faulkner said:

 (the average length of same-sex marriages is half that of heterosexual marriages)

I wonder if this statistic (if true) may be informed by the fact that same-sex marriage has only been a legal reality on the federal level for 9 years!?!?!?

[mrsslocombe]

Nov 8, 2024 15:45:35 GMT -5 rupertpenny said:

Nov 7, 2024 13:19:27 GMT -5 W.T.Faulkner said:

 (the average length of same-sex marriages is half that of heterosexual marriages)

I wonder if this statistic (if true) may be informed by the fact that same-sex marriage has only been a legal reality on the federal level for 9 years!?!?!?

Yeah I imagine that is a data point that is "true" but ignores the reasoning behind it. You can't have 50+ year-long same-sex marriages data points to drive the average up higher.


Also, fuck off to these people forever for the narrative that getting married/remaining married is automatically better for society. It's only better for hetero adult cis men. Damn the rest of us. 

[fernweh]

Nov 8, 2024 16:04:34 GMT -5 mrsslocombe said:

Nov 8, 2024 15:45:35 GMT -5 rupertpenny said:

I wonder if this statistic (if true) may be informed by the fact that same-sex marriage has only been a legal reality on the federal level for 9 years!?!?!?

Yeah I imagine that is a data point that is "true" but ignores the reasoning behind it. You can't have 50+ year-long same-sex marriages data points to drive the average up higher.


Also, fuck off to these people forever for the narrative that getting married/remaining married is automatically better for society. It's only better for hetero adult cis men. Damn the rest of us. 

Not the point but why are they also ignoring the fact that their orange idol has been married 3 times?!