Dip at 4dpo??

[winecheery]

Does anyone else get that secondary estrogen surge that seems to appear most commonly at 4dpo? I read a lot about it yesterday, because I was curious what it meant.

I had one yesterday, and now my temps are up again at 5dpo, so it seems like my body is behaving so far. Just curious how common this really is and what other people's cycles do during the 2ww.

Does it mean anything special?? I cannot seem to find conclusive data. Except that it's "normal".

It's so weird finding out all this crap is happening to my body on a daily basis and I never knew! Men have noooo clue lol

[nevafaye]

I've had it before, but not every month. It's normal to have it happen and be pregnant, or not pregnant, or to have it not happen and be pregnant or not pregnant.

So, super helpful, huh?

[winecheery]

lol yep. You've just answered everything! haha

[Deleted]

There is such thing as an "implantation dip" (you can read about it on FF), but I think that usually happens closer to 6-9 DPO. It doesn't always happen on pregnancy charts, and isn't uncommon on non-pregnancy charts....so really it doesn't mean much of anything.

Sometimes I think you can chalk one wonky temp up as a statistical outlier.

[winecheery]

Naaah too early for implant dip. Even if FF is off by a day (it switched my O day mid cycle) my dip would've been at 5dpo, and that's still too early. I just wondered if it was like a sign of anything...like good/bad LP phase, etc.

I have no reason to believe we did it this month. Since FF switched my days, it looks like I only hit one fertile day. I was basing sex off of projected fertile days, and so initially it looked like I hit a few! But then I started temping mid-cycle ish. So with the temp data, it changed me and now I'm a day later with O.

Plus I have no symptoms of anything. Everyone else on the interwebs seems to have some symptom of something by now. Which makes no sense to me, because they haven't even implanted yet...oooh I'm so wise now that I'm on cycle #2 lol

[tarheels]

Oct 1, 2012 10:41:19 GMT -5 winecheery said:

It's so weird finding out all this crap is happening to my body on a daily basis and I never knew! Men have noooo clue lol

So I can't help with your problem, but can I just amen this?!

You'll probably think I'm super weird for this, but i'm in grad school and was in a big lecture class this morning. I was bored and daydreaming about a baby and looked around the room and thought, "OMG, these ladies have no idea they're ovulating or not or have fertile CM or..." This awareness is a little strange!

And I was SO PROUD of my DH a couple days ago. I've asked him how much about all this he wants to know and he thinks the science of it all is pretty cool. When I finished giving him the cliff's notes version, he was like, "why do they not teach yall this in health class in school? why is the default to medicate everybody?" WHOO! Go DH!

[winecheery]

Oct 1, 2012 11:56:29 GMT -5 tarheels said:

Oct 1, 2012 10:41:19 GMT -5 winecheery said:

It's so weird finding out all this crap is happening to my body on a daily basis and I never knew! Men have noooo clue lol

So I can't help with your problem, but can I just amen this?!

You'll probably think I'm super weird for this, but i'm in grad school and was in a big lecture class this morning. I was bored and daydreaming about a baby and looked around the room and thought, "OMG, these ladies have no idea they're ovulating or not or have fertile CM or..." This awareness is a little strange!

And I was SO PROUD of my DH a couple days ago. I've asked him how much about all this he wants to know and he thinks the science of it all is pretty cool. When I finished giving him the cliff's notes version, he was like, "why do they not teach yall this in health class in school? why is the default to medicate everybody?" WHOO! Go DH!

lol seeee?? It's true. I know my DH would find the charting aspect fascinating as he's a dork, but I also think he likes not knowing too much so he can just relax about it a bit.

It's true what your DH said tho; they taught me absolutely nothing useful in health class. Ever.

[berbles]

Oct 1, 2012 11:23:17 GMT -5 winecheery said:

Plus I have no symptoms of anything. Everyone else on the interwebs seems to have some symptom of something by now. Which makes no sense to me, because they haven't even implanted yet...oooh I'm so wise now that I'm on cycle #2 lol

Those people are fools. If you're pg enough to have symptoms, you're pg enough to test positive. So I call BS. Plus, almost all super early pg symptoms are identical to PMS symptoms. It's nearly impossible to differentiate until after you get your period (or don't).

[thoseareradishes]

I haven't had any symptoms at all during the 2ww - no sore boobs, no cramps, no headaches, nada. I get some cramps during my period, but no PMS symptoms. I will enjoy it while I can. (However, I feel crappy before and around when I ovulate- bloated, tired, generally icky. So I guess I make up for it a little.)