Yeah, I'm thinking hoping to engage in this context isn't "let's have a rational conversation about this" as much as "Dude, I would loooooove the opportunity to mock this dumb, woman hating heifer."
Apparently you missed the part where the OP stated she was hoping she would engage. I think what she really means is that she was hoping to egg her on....and it didn;t work.
Given who the OP is, we pretty much know this is the case, yeah?
Post by meshaliuknits on May 21, 2012 14:53:28 GMT -5
The two JWs who are in my neighborhood regularly open my mail slot to peep into the house. NOSY heifers. If they see any signs of life via mail slot they knock for longer. They go away faster if I answer and tell them I'm not interested.
They hang out at the bus stop by my house to offer folks something to read during their ride. The ground is always littered with Watchtowers.
Sept- Engage you? Why? It was quite clear your mind was cemented shut on the subject and there was nothing to be said that would even get you to look at the subject in a different vein, much less change your thinking.
She at least was not as rude as were you.
I fail to see how her response was the slightest bit rude. The candidate's wife came knocking on her door, seeking her support. She expressed why she would not give it in very clear and specific terms. She didn't swear, yell, or demean her in any way. How is that rude?
I'm side eyeing the notion that because she didn't wear, yell, or call her a douchewad that she couldn't be rude.
At minimum, she was curt and confrontational and intentionally chose inflammatory language she hoped would rile the woman up. Instead of engaging, the woman left.
I think both sides have buzz words that when uttered, everyone knows to back off or at least should know the back off. I think Septimus's wording falls into that category and it was smart of the woman to leave it be.
You know, it's like when you're neighbor says something bootstrappy, kwim?
I'm also lol-ing at the "shoving brochures". It's shoving only when it's literature from the other side. Otherwise, it' s informing.
Indeed. Like the very special guy who wouldn't quit blathering on about CFLs on my doorstep after I told him the doorbell and subsequent barking dogs just woke my kids. He cared little about engaging with me and more about checking off that he'd delivered literature and the full spiel to x many houses that evening. My guess was that he was paid. A volunteer would never have been so dispassionate about their cause.
Which person is the bigger douche? He who won't stop talking to an uninterested party or the candidates wife who takes her cue to leave?
Post by basilosaurus on May 21, 2012 15:35:01 GMT -5
I don't think it was wrong of the woman to leave. I would have probably done the same if it was obvious I wasn't going to get anywhere.
I still don't think it's at all rude to express your opinion to an uninvited guest attempting to sell you something.
I don't think it's rude that I tell JWs that I'm an atheist and not interested in their watchtower mag, either. I consider that to be polite given how much worse I want to be when bothered early on Saturday.
I'm side eyeing the notion that because she didn't wear, yell, or call her a douchewad that she couldn't be rude.
Of course she still could have been rude. I'm just not willing to say she was for simply expressing her political opinion to someone who did knock on her door and inquire about it.
I've given similar answers to pollsters and candidates who call. I find it to be a very efficient method of letting them know where I stand and that they should probably just move on down the road to someone whom they have a hope in hell of convincing. But that doesn't mean that I'm anything less than pleasant and polite in my delivery.
I don't answer the door for JWs or Mormons if I realize that's who's there.
The JW's come to our neighborhood several times a week and always to my house during either nap or bath time. I wasn't home once and they put the pamphlet under my door mat. That sucker is still there and they haven't knocked even though I've seen them stroll up my walkway. Our gardener is under strict orders to leave it be.
My father used to love having the Mormons come to his door. He would put those boys to work. Cleaning gutters, raking leaves, painting the fence......
As far as the OP, of course she acted that way. The point of canvassing is to identify support. Why would she waste another pamphlet or second of her time?
My father used to love having the Mormons come to his door. He would put those boys to work. Cleaning gutters, raking leaves, painting the fence......
I'm kind of surprised I've never had Mormons at my door. I have an awesome excuse to send them on their way - "Sorry, I married one, and if he can't convert me, neither can you." But no, never have they come a-knockin'. It's kind of disappointing, strangely.
Post by basilosaurus on May 21, 2012 19:38:45 GMT -5
The only JWs at my house have actually been when I lived in Japan. They were Japanese women who spoke English and specifically targeted American households.
The only proselytizers I had in the States were actually Catholic, and they were completely obnoxious. If I'm enjoying my springtime weather on the front porch, and you approach me, and I say I'm busy, also an atheist, please know that's my polite way of telling you to fuck off. This is not an open invitation to dialogue.