I know I don't have to pick a party, but I feel like you have a snowballs chance on hell at being president if you aren't identified as D or R, and how is that not an issue? Does half the country really feel like Romney is the best choice between the ( basically) 2 or are people just voting that way because of his party and they think that he might feel the same on certain issues as they do because of that party? You can say, oh you can vote for #3 if that's who you think will be best until you are blue in the face, but that person really never had a chance right? I know I'm not being completely coherent here, I have a lot of questions about the whole thing and I'm not exactly sure where to find the answers. My google-fu leads to me politically colored results.
Heck, I'm voting against a guy because I was offended by the grammar in his campaign ads.
Okay, maybe that's not the entire reason, but I'd prefer my representitives know how to make his constituents plural.
I voted against a guy who was butthurt and made a series of woe is me attack ads over the fact that his opponent said he had no public service experience.
BUT I WAS IN THE NAVY!!
That's not public service, douchepickle and I will NOT vote for an asshat who cannot fathom the difference. In fact, I will deliberately vote for the other guy, even if it means bacon goes in a volcano.
I know I don't have to pick a party, but I feel like you have a snowballs chance on hell at being president if you aren't identified as D or R, and how is that not an issue? Does half the country really feel like Romney is the best choice between the ( basically) 2 or are people just voting that way because of his party and they think that he might feel the same on certain issues as they do because of that party? You can say, oh you can vote for #3 if that's who you think will be best until you are blue in the face, but that person really never had a chance right? I know I'm not being completely coherent here, I have a lot of questions about the whole thing and I'm not exactly sure where to find the answers. My google-fu leads to me politically colored results.
Post by fussbucket on Oct 24, 2012 14:35:52 GMT -5
Didn't they teach civics and/or government in your schools, or were you out sick those years?
If you vote third party at least the two major parties can see that they failed to earn your vote and might take that into consideration in crafting platforms for highly contested races/locations. But if you do nothing then no one has any idea how to represent you or what the electorates' views are in general.
All those Nader voters in Florida in 2000 sure as hell made a difference.
So here's the thing HG, you sound like you want more moderate politicians and you're not getting them because people on the extremes keep getting nominated. That is because the people who are most passionate about these issues are the ones chomping at the bit to vote. If the people crying for moderation actually did something instead of getting demoralized and declaring that they "won't vote" that might change. Because guess what? The election is still going to happen whether you vote or not. 6/10 votes wins the same as 5/9 does.
If you're not seeing people being elected who you feel represent you then go vote for them.
Didn't they teach civics and/or government in your schools, or were you out sick those years?
If you vote third party at least the two major parties can see that they failed to earn your vote and might take that into consideration in crafting platforms for highly contested races/locations. But if you do nothing then no one has any idea how to represent you or what the electorates' views are in general.
All those Nader voters in Florida in 2000 sure as hell made a difference.
In HS. It's been 10 years, I don't have any retention for that kind of stuff. And my senior year, my teacher was literally fired for being drunk during class so...yeah. Good times.
Thanks fuss and fein.
Isn't voting at an all time low? Or is that just another ploy I hear to get people to vote?
In HS. It's been 10 years, I don't have any retention for that kind of stuff. And my senior year, my teacher was literally fired for being drunk during class so...yeah. Good times.
Thanks fuss and fein.
Isn't voting at an all time low? Or is that just another ploy I hear to get people to vote?
I learned to wash my ass about 25 years ago. Somehow, I still remember that valuable lesson.
Even if you don't vote for every single office, I really can't fathom not voting at all. It's not just a right, it's also a privilege to have a voice in the direction of the country. If you don't like the Dem or Rep candidates, vote 3rd party. If you don't like the 3rd party, write in your friends names (I've done this for unopposed races).
Women were denied the right to vote in this country until the fucking 20th century because men thought women were too dumb and not rational enough to vote. Please don't prove them right by CHOOSING not to exercise your Constitutional right to vote!
In HS. It's been 10 years, I don't have any retention for that kind of stuff. And my senior year, my teacher was literally fired for being drunk during class so...yeah. Good times.
Thanks fuss and fein.
Isn't voting at an all time low? Or is that just another ploy I hear to get people to vote?
I learned to wash my ass about 25 years ago. Somehow, I still remember that valuable lesson.
So you remember everything from every class in elementary and high school? That's fucking amazeballs. I don't. Nor did I really pay attention. I do not like politics, I do not like history, I do not like government. I'm seriously floored that it is that hard of a concept to grasp from someone who remembers every moment of schooling.
HG, what do you like? At this point, I'm amazed you know what the Internet is.
I know that's sarcastic so I don't know why I'm answering, but English and science were my fav classes, I'm also very hands on, painting and drawing, was a photog major and am now a architectural major. So...everything but history, pretty much.
OMFG HG! This isn't about whether or not you remember what Charlemagne did from your 7th grade history class. This is basic fucking common sense.
Between this and the fact that you can't even figure out how to cook vegetables... I'm not quite sure about you. Do you really walk through your entire life in such a fog? Are you being willfully ignorant?!
I think it's necessary to educate yourself so that you DO understand how to pick a candidate and what choices you will have when you go and vote. Saying you didn't pay attention to government class in highschool is a poor excuse. There are unbiased resources out there that will give you direction so you know what you're doing.
ETA: I hated government class and I still managed to figure out how to pick a candidate and use my right to vote. Sheesh.
FYI, history is awesome. Charlemagne taught me that "moderate" drinking means no more than 3 glasses of wine per meal [except for special occasions, of course]. If not for Charlemagne, I'd be forced to find other ways to justify my drinking!
FYI, history is awesome. Charlemagne taught me that "moderate" drinking means no more than 3 glasses of wine per meal [except for special occasions, of course]. If not for Charlemagne, I'd be forced to find other ways to justify my drinking!
Post by fussbucket on Oct 24, 2012 15:01:07 GMT -5
Oh, architecture? Think you can just build any building you want to any particular standard you like, anytime anywhere? Maybe if you don't care about government.... you CAN!