Also, @otterama, I LOOOOVE making Christmas cookies. I have tons of cookie cutters, gel food coloring, decorating tools etc. Let's GTG, put on Pandora's Classic Christmas station and make the shit out of some cookies.
AND! We can do it at my mom's house, where there's a giant granite island and my stepdad will probably wash all the dirty dishes
Also, @otterama, I LOOOOVE making Christmas cookies. I have tons of cookie cutters, gel food coloring, decorating tools etc. Let's GTG, put on Pandora's Classic Christmas station and make the shit out of some cookies.
AND! We can do it at my mom's house, where there's a giant granite island and my stepdad will probably wash all the dirty dishes
Let's do it at my place Saturday! We can call it practice.
Post by spellingbea on Nov 21, 2013 19:40:30 GMT -5
It's not like otter is putting luxury items for herself or DH on her wish list. I think she's been through hell and wanted a perfect Christmas for her baby. Rosie will have a perfect Christmas regardless, because she has a mom and dad who love her dearly.
You win the martyr award. I'd give you a trophy but, you know. Kind of defeats the point.
This has nothing to do with me being a martyr, but now that I reread, it wreaks of martyrdom. Things were the way they were and we rolled with it and it was fine.
her post made me squicky. That's all. And I'm clearly not the only one.
I love it so much when people who have been in shitty spots before themselves want to shame others. I'd think people like you and tacom would be pretty understanding and sympathetic. But apparently not. Accepting help is not a character flaw.
Hey, I am just getting home, so I haven't read any of this, but I am sorry about everything. I feel awful that you guys are going through this. Don't worry about the SS, I will take care of it
apalettepassion.wordpress.com/ WHO IS BONQUIQUI!?!?!?!??!
"I was thinking about getting off on demand, but it sounds like I should be glad that I didn't"
This has nothing to do with me being a martyr, but now that I reread, it wreaks of martyrdom. Things were the way they were and we rolled with it and it was fine.
her post made me squicky. That's all. And I'm clearly not the only one.
I love it so much when people who have been in shitty spots before themselves want to shame others. I'd think people like you and tacom would be pretty understanding and sympathetic. But apparently not. Accepting help is not a character flaw.
lol.
I'm all for people helping one another out. I try to volunteer as much as I can, and I led a children's program to promote language and literacy development at a homeless center until I moved 1.5 years ago. I try to carry extra food on me and we donate money and assist with an annual charity event to help families in poverty. I sneak extra snacks to some of the kids at my inner-city school, and I brought in mask-making supplies so every kid could have his/her own Halloween costume in case they didn't have anything at home.
I'm sorry that I said the toy wish list seemed like a bit much for an 8-week-old. I probably should have kept that opinion to myself, especially considering how much this family has gone through.
I do think the witch hunt can ease off though. Quite a few others shared a similar opinion. But I have received the message loud and clear. I piss a few of you off because I'm a condescending beebee bitch. The horse is dead.
Also, @otterama, I LOOOOVE making Christmas cookies. I have tons of cookie cutters, gel food coloring, decorating tools etc. Let's GTG, put on Pandora's Classic Christmas station and make the shit out of some cookies.
AND! We can do it at my mom's house, where there's a giant granite island and my stepdad will probably wash all the dirty dishes
Ffs people. It's not like Otter is just some random person - people have met her in person and there's been picture evidence. She's had to deal with a lot recently, why does it matter so much if some want to be generous towards her newly expanded family? Seriously, wth is wrong with some of you?
I guess when picking a family off the angel tree I should make sure they're really needy. Those asking for toys for their kids need not apply.
Post by coribelle26 on Nov 21, 2013 20:26:38 GMT -5
Just a reminder that adoption is hugely fucking expensive. So new baby + job loss is bad for anyone, but new baby that took tens of thousands of dollars to bring home + job loss must be completely terrifying.
That otter had to wonder for even a second whether her husband losing his job would negatively affect the finalization of her daughter's adoption makes me want to cry. I hope they have the best damn Christmas ever. I hope someone leaves $700 in an envelope in their mailbox.
I'm all for people helping one another out. I try to volunteer as much as I can, and I led a children's program to promote language and literacy development at a homeless center until I moved 1.5 years ago. I try to carry extra food on me and we donate money and assist with an annual charity event to help families in poverty. I sneak extra snacks to some of the kids at my inner-city school, and I brought in mask-making supplies so every kid could have his/her own Halloween costume in case they didn't have anything at home.
I'm sorry that I said the toy wish list seemed like a bit much for an 8-week-old. I probably should have kept that opinion to myself, especially considering how much this family has gone through.
I do think the witch hunt can ease off though. Quite a few others shared a similar opinion. But I have received the message loud and clear. I piss a few of you off because I'm a condescending beebee bitch. The horse is dead.
Why can't you just say "I'm all for helping one another out." Why do you feel the need to follow up with a list of how awesomely charitable you are. Stop. Humility, for fuck's sake.
you honestly have no idea why a person may feel slightly defensive here?
TACOM HAS A HEART OF COAL AND DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ANYONE actually... HUMILITY, HOAR.
Listen, I'm done here. We clearly should have been done a while ago. But if you all would kindly either decide to continue with the character attacks and allow me to speak up for myself OR decide that we're done with the conversation (and allow me to kindly shut the fuck up -- thanks wan) that would be great.
Girl, please. Nobody is making you continue to fucking post here. Just because we keep yapping doesn't mean you need to keep responding. Sorry not sorry.
Post by PeonyParty on Nov 21, 2013 20:40:50 GMT -5
I feel very torn on this. I want to have all the fuzzy feels of internet generosity and empathy for a new mom during Christmas under less than nice circumstances. But an almost $500 wishlist stemming from a "PJ's and book reading" post? But like everyone else has pointed out- no one is making anyone donate, blah, blah, blah. This is just coming from a person who went from "Aww, I am glad she made a wishlist! I want to help!" to "Oh dear" rather quickly after opening it. I don't know how I feel.
Post by lilafowler on Nov 21, 2013 20:44:15 GMT -5
Jesus people-wtf? Yes, Rosie is a baby and won't remember her first Christmas but that doesn't mean Otter doesn't have a right to have dreamed about her child's first Christmas-a child she went to hell and back for btw.
I really don't think she came on here with a plan to trick ML into paying for her Christmas-maybe she felt that it was too personal or whatnot to say to her IRL friends and family-I know I've come on here to sound off about shit I wouldn't want to talk about with my "real life" people.
Like others have said-if you don't like the idea then don't participate. No need to shit on someone who is already having a hard time.
I know the generosity of people on this board as I experienced some of it last year. Who cares if she had a wish list that had $500 worth of stuff on it. Most new moms can put a list together of toys, books, clothes, and other miscellaneous items that would add up to that.