So pretty! I like the darker color, too! I love that cape so much. My heinous SIL wants it. She will never wear it. She practically stalked me until I returned it to my MIL after the wedding. I keep trying to convince my H to just quietly put it in the car when he goes over but he won't. Jerk.
"Not gonna lie; I kind of keep expecting you to post one day that you threw down on someone who clearly had no idea that today was NOT THEIR DAY." ~dontcallmeshirley
So pretty! I like the darker color, too! I love that cape so much. My heinous SIL wants it. She will never wear it. She practically stalked me until I returned it to my MIL after the wedding. I keep trying to convince my H to just quietly put it in the car when he goes over but he won't. Jerk.
I got to page 9 and didn't want to watch friends fight, but I think there is an interesting question that got lost in the thread, and that is:
How long should it be until we forgive an organisation for its past deeds? And should we?
Because I understand the reluctance to give Chik any money even if they stopped doing the bad stuff now (I am not saying they have). But it does become a question time and how bad what they did was?
Does anyone here avoid IBM for its involvement in Hitlers treatment of the Jews? Serious question, not snark. Because that was some bullshit right there - along with Coca Cola and various other businesses who bent over backwards directly or indirectly to earn from the Nazis. I don't know what IBM has been up to since...but still. Not good, eh?
And I stopped protesting Starbucks when they bought in that college thing recently. I don't know if I am right to or not, because they have some historically pretty shitty business methods.
I made both of these points several pages back but yeah, infinite regression and/or no corporation ever being able to sufficiently appease consumers is apparently ok.
tbf, pixy, I think it is odd that you play ignorant to the makeup with their testing and their packaging and all the waste, parabens, etc but are hell bent on this. What do you actually need to believe him? Him calling you?II'm asking honestly.
tbf, the make-up thing was tic, and I'm really surprised that people can only pinpoint on that to pick at me with.
IBM is one of the largest tech firms in the world, and usually ranked as one of the most respected as well. I don't think many people today even know about their past, much less boycott them for it.
Of course it's almost impossible to avoid IBM since they have created so many things that are basically essential to daily life at this point. It's a lot different than something like a restaurant or clothing store. I mean, if you have a computer, or shop in a store, or have a debit card, or do business with basically any company that is even remotely digital then you're probably using something created by IBM.
Oh, I know. I was just using IBM as an example, not a practical thing to boycott. And anyway, its impossible to boycott, say, athletic clothing and shoe companies that use sweatshops - they all do, pretty much. So instead, its best just to boycott the biggest offender - hence me never buying Nike. I still have to buy running shoes, and I still don't like giving money to, say Adidas, but theres no other way really - unless you decide to live in a forest in a house you made yourself wearing skins and eating what you kill.
New Balance still makes some shoes in the US using well paid labor. I admit to not knowing about their overseas plants, but the friends I have who work there seem happy with the company.
I got to page 9 and didn't want to watch friends fight, but I think there is an interesting question that got lost in the thread, and that is:
How long should it be until we forgive an organisation for its past deeds? And should we?
Because I understand the reluctance to give Chik any money even if they stopped doing the bad stuff now (I am not saying they have). But it does become a question time and how bad what they did was?
Does anyone here avoid IBM for its involvement in Hitlers treatment of the Jews? Serious question, not snark. Because that was some bullshit right there - along with Coca Cola and various other businesses who bent over backwards directly or indirectly to earn from the Nazis. I don't know what IBM has been up to since...but still. Not good, eh?
And I stopped protesting Starbucks when they bought in that college thing recently. I don't know if I am right to or not, because they have some historically pretty shitty business methods.
Starbucks also treats their workers really well and is progressive on civil rights issues (and sells SOME fair trade coffee, though not all), so I think it's always been in neutral ground. As much as any international chain can be.