Post by underwaterrhymes on Aug 9, 2014 6:59:00 GMT -5
mofongo - you're right. I didn't see LHC's post. And I do think she was trying to create drama.
I did see Stan's post and responded that I feel what happened to her was terrible and not her fault.
I just found it disingenuous that so many people pretended that they don't usually find the drama and roll all over in it.
Obviously this isn't the type of situation - knowing what we do - that inspires "yay drama" sentiments or that gif of the wrestler doing the heavy breathing. But that's how people have reacted in the past. I just think that was what LHC was going for, not realizing what had really happened.
Again, I didn't see the pm, so I concede I'm only seeing part of the puzzle.
I just think that was what LHC was going for, not realizing what had really happened.
Again, I didn't see the pm, so I concede I'm only seeing part of the puzzle.
UWR come on now with this.
People expressed dismay to LHC about what she had posted WAY before the details came out. Several posters said something, LHC gave iamalli a verbal smack down for saying something and it took several more comments before LHC finally deleted it herself and the mods stepped in to delete the quotes ALL BEFORE Stan posted with the follow up details.
THEN followed the 'huh' response which slipped way under the radar (wtf) and shrug/ oops response from LHC. The apology sounds very sincere to me and I think she was right and brave to post it. But if SHE has recognized how fucked up what she did was, why can't you?
There were indeed people who said the PM posting was fine. @booby and the people who liked her post, and probably a couple of others.
But just no to your assertion that this was all a mistake. No.
mofongo - you're right. I didn't see LHC's post. And I do think she was trying to create drama.
I did see Stan's post and responded that I feel what happened to her was terrible and not her fault.
I just found it disingenuous that so many people pretended that they don't usually find the drama and roll all over in it.
Obviously this isn't the type of situation - knowing what we do - that inspires "yay drama" sentiments or that gif of the wrestler doing the heavy breathing. But that's how people have reacted in the past. I just think that was what LHC was going for, not realizing what had really happened.
Again, I didn't see the pm, so I concede I'm only seeing part of the puzzle.
Even if it turned out that he gossip was true, do you think that excuses the behavior or that people would have been reveling in it? I would have still thought it was gross. That had nothing to do with lhc, and she had no idea if it was true, yet she chose to share it anyway. What could she have possibly had to lose by keeping it to herself, or letting Stan know? That is just a shitty, shitty thing to do to anyone. If a rumor had been shared about lhc'a family or relationship with her h, do you not think the board would have been up in arms?
I just think that was what LHC was going for, not realizing what had really happened.
Again, I didn't see the pm, so I concede I'm only seeing part of the puzzle.
UWR come on now with this.
People expressed dismay to LHC about what she had posted WAY before the details came out. Several posters said something, LHC gave iamalli a verbal smack down for saying something and it took several more comments before LHC finally deleted it herself and the mods stepped in to delete the quotes ALL BEFORE Stan posted with the follow up details.
THEN followed the 'huh' response which slipped way under the radar (wtf) and shrug/ oops response from LHC. The apology sounds very sincere to me and I think she was right and brave to post it. But if SHE has recognized how fucked up what she did was, why can't you?
There were indeed people who said the PM posting was fine. @booby and the people who liked her post, and probably a couple of others.
But just no to your assertion that this was all a mistake. No.
The only thing I disagree with you on is her apology. It wreaked of "oh shit, moms mad at me, I need to apologize." Otherwise, do it privately and let people know it happened in the taking a break post. Stan is a better person than I am, because she's been incredibly gracious and forgiving IMO.
Post by underwaterrhymes on Aug 9, 2014 7:55:32 GMT -5
themoneytree - I didn't say it was a mistake. As I said, I think LHC was trying to create drama. And I also said what happened to Stan was terrible. And I'm glad LHC apologized because it sounds like it was well-deserved.
I'm obviously not being clear about what my point is here.
themoneytree - I didn't say it was a mistake. As I said, I think LHC was trying to create drama. And I also said what happened to Stan was terrible. And I'm glad LHC apologized because it sounds like it was well-deserved.
I'm obviously not being clear about what my point is here.
It was just a difficult thing all around. The other thing that bothered me was if something like that had been posted about a well liked regular, the whole place would have blown up right off the bat. A regular posting about someone else got way less attention until the shit really hit the fan. This double standard was apparent not just with LHC either.
themoneytree - I didn't say it was a mistake. As I said, I think LHC was trying to create drama. And I also said what happened to Stan was terrible. And I'm glad LHC apologized because it sounds like it was well-deserved.
I'm obviously not being clear about what my point is here.
I think you're saying that this wouldn't have been possible had we not created a demand for the drama, but people are hearing that you're sympathizing with LHC. Aside from you and cjoys drunken defense after not reading the posts, there isn't a lot of support for LHC here right now, so your point probably won't be received well.
To be clear, I'm not sympathizing with LHC. I just think what she did isn't so different from what people have done in the past that people have reveled in. I'm not making any new points and I don't want to further upset people.
There were a few posters (albeit not the ones who are still in here patiently trying to make me get what they're also saying) who pissed me off because they are usually all up in the drama threads. I just felt they were being hypocritical.
I almost universally avoid commenting in drama threads even when they involve unity horses like evee because i don't like drama. I certainly don't want to come across as being pro drama particularly with this scenario which is painful and awful.
UWR - I get you. I totally get what you're saying, and you're right. This is a board that thrives on drama and I'm not going to deny that. And 99% of the time, what you're describing is correct in how it goes down. I admire that you are sticking up for an unpopular opinion. That's cool.
What we are saying is that this time it was different from the very get go. This was the 1%. Consider how telling it is that the only people defending what happened are the ones who didn't see it. I think that says a lot, especially considering this is someone who usually has a lot if backup on here.
UWR - I get you. I totally get what you're saying, and you're right. This is a board that thrives on drama and I'm not going to deny that. And 99% of the time, what you're describing is correct in how it goes down. I admire that you are sticking up for an unpopular opinion. That's cool.
What we are saying is that this time it was different from the very get go. This was the 1%. Consider how telling it is that the only people defending what happened are the ones who didn't see it. I think that says a lot, especially considering this is someone who usually has a lot if backup on here.
I can see this. And I can see how I am missing a big part of this having not read the OP.
themoneytree - I didn't say it was a mistake. As I said, I think LHC was trying to create drama. And I also said what happened to Stan was terrible. And I'm glad LHC apologized because it sounds like it was well-deserved.
I'm obviously not being clear about what my point is here.
I think most people get your point, they just don't want to let a "let's all hate on LHC" moment pass them by.
And lol at "drunken defense." I only call people friends when I am TRASHED.
I do not think that is the case at all. I (and several others) pointed out that this is Lucy's MO, but I don't think that this has descended into a 'trash LHC' opportunity at all.
themoneytree - I didn't say it was a mistake. As I said, I think LHC was trying to create drama. And I also said what happened to Stan was terrible. And I'm glad LHC apologized because it sounds like it was well-deserved.
I'm obviously not being clear about what my point is here.
I think most people get your point, they just don't want to let a "let's all hate on LHC" moment pass them by.
And lol at "drunken defense." I only call people friends when I am TRASHED.
How is she being hated on? No one told her she was a bad person, no one told her to take a break, people were telling her it was messed up to do--which it was.
People expressed dismay to LHC about what she had posted WAY before the details came out. Several posters said something, LHC gave iamalli a verbal smack down for saying something and it took several more comments before LHC finally deleted it herself and the mods stepped in to delete the quotes ALL BEFORE Stan posted with the follow up details.
THEN followed the 'huh' response which slipped way under the radar (wtf) and shrug/ oops response from LHC. The apology sounds very sincere to me and I think she was right and brave to post it. But if SHE has recognized how fucked up what she did was, why can't you?
There were indeed people who said the PM posting was fine. @booby and the people who liked her post, and probably a couple of others.
But just no to your assertion that this was all a mistake. No.
PMs have been posted before, nobody knew how ugly this particular one would be.
Aren't they usually PMs that somehow involve the poster or other people on the board? I haven't been around long enough to know. This didn't involve lhc or anyone else here.
People expressed dismay to LHC about what she had posted WAY before the details came out. Several posters said something, LHC gave iamalli a verbal smack down for saying something and it took several more comments before LHC finally deleted it herself and the mods stepped in to delete the quotes ALL BEFORE Stan posted with the follow up details.
THEN followed the 'huh' response which slipped way under the radar (wtf) and shrug/ oops response from LHC. The apology sounds very sincere to me and I think she was right and brave to post it. But if SHE has recognized how fucked up what she did was, why can't you?
There were indeed people who said the PM posting was fine. @booby and the people who liked her post, and probably a couple of others.
But just no to your assertion that this was all a mistake. No.
PMs have been posted before, nobody knew how ugly this particular one would be.
PMs like this? From a stranger? With nothing to do with the board and just involving a bunch of highly personal stuff about someone in a completely and utterly unprovoked fashion?
Look, LHC is my friend. Or "friend" if you prefer. I'm not going to apologize for that or join the LHC sucks chorus. People make mistakes and do things that hurt people but that doesn't make them villains. Though I know ML loves that.
PMs like this? From a stranger? With nothing to do with the board and just involving a bunch of highly personal stuff about someone in a completely and utterly unprovoked fashion?
OMG, obviously not, I just stated so above. It's fair to say we didn't know where it was going, though.Â
I'll translate what I think underwaterrhymes is saying into something more profane: almost everyone is an asshole around here sometimes, so before you cast your bitch stones consider that you may be sitting in your own glass house of fuckery.
"Why would you ruin perfectly good peanuts by adding candy corn? That's like saying hey, I have these awesome nachos, guess I better add some dryer lint." - Nonny
I'll translate what I think underwaterrhymes is saying into something more profane: almost everyone is an asshole around here sometimes, so before you cast your bitch stones consider that you may be sitting in your own glass house of fuckery.
Cville out.
EVERYONE here is an asshole, and I won't be convinced otherwise. Who but an asshole would even participate on a board like this?
Some of you will be much happier when you learn to love and live with your poor character. I hate seeing you all struggle with this. PM me. I can help.
I just think that was what LHC was going for, not realizing what had really happened.
Again, I didn't see the pm, so I concede I'm only seeing part of the puzzle.
UWR come on now with this.
People expressed dismay to LHC about what she had posted WAY before the details came out. Several posters said something, LHC gave iamalli a verbal smack down for saying something and it took several more comments before LHC finally deleted it herself and the mods stepped in to delete the quotes ALL BEFORE Stan posted with the follow up details.
THEN followed the 'huh' response which slipped way under the radar (wtf) and shrug/ oops response from LHC. The apology sounds very sincere to me and I think she was right and brave to post it. But if SHE has recognized how fucked up what she did was, why can't you?
There were indeed people who said the PM posting was fine. @booby and the people who liked her post, and probably a couple of others.
But just no to your assertion that this was all a mistake. No.
Let it go dude. I already explained myself and you told me to fuck myself in the ear which made me laugh.
EVERYONE here is an asshole, and I won't be convinced otherwise. Who but an asshole would even participate on a board like this?
Some of you will be much happier when you learn to love and live with your poor character. I hate seeing you all struggle with this. PM me. I can help.
I agree with both of you. Does this mean that we can't talk about assholes when they're being assholes, because otherwise, no fun.
Also I had no idea of the earlier post so when I saw the post and she started talking about LHC and whatnot I had no clue what was going on so yeah I was "huh".
EVERYONE here is an asshole, and I won't be convinced otherwise. Who but an asshole would even participate on a board like this?
Some of you will be much happier when you learn to love and live with your poor character. I hate seeing you all struggle with this. PM me. I can help.
I agree with both of you. Does this mean that we can't talk about assholes when they're being assholes, because otherwise, no fun.
As long as you're not telling me to evaluate myself, which I will NEVER do, have at it. I evaluated myself long ago and was found deficient. I am at peace. Lol.
themoneytree - I didn't say it was a mistake. As I said, I think LHC was trying to create drama. And I also said what happened to Stan was terriblec. And I'm glad LHC apologized because it sounds like it was well-deserved.
I'm obviously not being clear about what my point is here.