Yup. I just spent the last 45 minutes consoling her. She is in a foreign country where she doesn't know anyone and has to deal with his childish bullshit. She was supposed to go to Italy with him. I told her she was welcome to stay here.......but I fear he may not go without her as he seems incapable of doing anything by himself.
Youch. That's a rough situation for her, but you are awesome for letting her know she can stay.
Yup. I just spent the last 45 minutes consoling her. She is in a foreign country where she doesn't know anyone and has to deal with his childish bullshit. She was supposed to go to Italy with him. I told her she was welcome to stay here.......but I fear he may not go without her as he seems incapable of doing anything by himself.
Poor girl. I wonder if she can change her plans and go somewhere else on her own. Perhaps Prague?
Yup. I just spent the last 45 minutes consoling her. She is in a foreign country where she doesn't know anyone and has to deal with his childish bullshit. She was supposed to go to Italy with him. I told her she was welcome to stay here.......but I fear he may not go without her as he seems incapable of doing anything by himself.
Be clear- SHE can stay. If he doesn't want to go w/o her, that's fine. But he's notinvited to stay at your place... seriously.
Tell her not to miss an opportunity to see Italy. Glad she had a birthday celebration! Tell the man/child he can pack his bags. Your poor DH if that is to be his new step-bro.
He is a fucking asshole. I'm sorry you have to have him around. It sounds like it would be a nice visit if not for him. At this point, I wouldn't go out of my way one tiny bit to be a good hostess to him. In fact, I would probably be kind of a cold bitch to him for the rest of the visit.
I agree with ECB - she can stay during the weekend, but he is not welcome to. He needs to go somewhere, whether it's Italy, France, or a hotel across the street. In fact, in my mind I would tell him "it's probably best that you get a hotel for the remainder of the visit," lol, even though I wouldn't really do it.
uh .. thanks? "They are the typical loud mouth, brash, obnoxious Americans."
'Cause we're all like this, every single last one of us.
I don't know if you realize OP is American too.
Anyway, for the record, UnderProtest, the birthday girl, and I met up for dinner and had a fabulous time! underprotest also invited another friend who was super fun and Mr.Underprotest showed up too after a long travel day. Lots of wine was had, birthday girl got a candle in her dessert and we sang, and I think she ended up having a relatively good day. It was a great impromptu evening out! <)
That is so sweet of you to take her out on her birthday! I hope she can continue to make the most of the trip. I also hope that you can keep your sanity until they all leave!
Post by UnderProtest on Oct 16, 2014 4:33:17 GMT -5
Oh so many more details about this trip came out last night. I'll share the FUN details later. Off to the London Eye since man child was afraid of heights and wouldn't take his friend anywhere near it.
Oh so many more details about this trip came out last night. I'll share the FUN details later. Off to the London Eye since man child was afraid of heights and wouldn't take his friend anywhere near it.
Oh, man. Awesome of you to show her around... Any chance you're also trying to escape the houseguests?
Oh so many more details about this trip came out last night. I'll share the FUN details later. Off to the London Eye since man child was afraid of heights and wouldn't take his friend anywhere near it.
Share, share, share!!!
Have fun at the eye with the friend, I am glad she knows this jack wagon is not worth her time anymore.
Oh so many more details about this trip came out last night. I'll share the FUN details later. Off to the London Eye since man child was afraid of heights and wouldn't take his friend anywhere near it.
You're so nice to show her around. I hope you guys have a great day. Let me know if you make any more fun dinner plans
We might go out tomorrow night. I'll keep you posted.
Post by UnderProtest on Oct 16, 2014 16:15:39 GMT -5
Okay, so finally back from a FULL day of sightseeing. So the update....I have ditched the child...he went off to another country with his dad and we had a lovely day here. The juicy details....apparently the friend's ticket was booked at the same time as the rest of the houseguests, not 6 weeks later as we were told. So my MIL has lied to us (and yes, this will be dealt with). The man child doesn't want to be friends with his friend anymore. And his dad is not telling him he is being an ass. He and my MIL are making excuses for this kid's poor behavior. Poor him, he's been depressed lately. Somehow that excuses him for being an ass to the friend he invited. So this poor girl is left with a bunch of people she doesn't know and is supposed to travel alone with him next week.
Oy... I'd suggest (if it won't impact her return flight), that she pick different travel plans for next week.
I'd let DH handle MIL and MIL's fiancé. This would make me think _very_ poorly of the both of them... But, if man-child hasn't learned how to behave by 28, it might be indicative of how spoiled he has been...
Okay, so finally back from a FULL day of sightseeing. So the update....I have ditched the child...he went off to another country with his dad and we had a lovely day here. The juicy details....apparently the friend's ticket was booked at the same time as the rest of the houseguests, not 6 weeks later as we were told. So my MIL has lied to us (and yes, this will be dealt with). The man child doesn't want to be friends with his friend anymore. And his dad is not telling him he is being an ass. He and my MIL are making excuses for this kid's poor behavior. Poor him, he's been depressed lately. Somehow that excuses him for being an ass to the friend he invited. So this poor girl is left with a bunch of people she doesn't know and is supposed to travel alone with him next week.
This could turn into the best thing that ever happened to her. How old is she? I'm assuming old enough to travel on her own, so she should take full advantage it and do what she wants. If I was her I might put up the money to switch flights, even if I stayed, so I didn't have to fly home with them. What was their relationship before they came, just friends? Recently dating? Why doesn't he want to be friends anymore, did she reject him and he's hurt?
I'd be very pissed at your MIL about the ticket thing.
If she wants to dirch the a hole and travel alone, the UK is a great place to do that for the first time. Or she could hop the train to Paris, that was my first solo trip in my 20s.
Oy... I'd suggest (if it won't impact her return flight), that she pick different travel plans for next week.
I'd let DH handle MIL and MIL's fiancé. This would make me think _very_ poorly of the both of them... But, if man-child hasn't learned how to behave by 28, it might be indicative of how spoiled he has been...
Yes, she is looking into different travel options should he continue to behave like this. She's going to lose money on it, but she's willing to do it.
I CANNOT stand being lied to. It will be dealt with. My husband would be much more diplomatic, but something will be said. Man child was mostly brought up with his dad and mom (not sure when they divorced). My MIL didn't enter the picture until this kid was in college, but she is a pushover so its not like it would have been any better.
Tell her not to miss an opportunity to see Italy. Glad she had a birthday celebration! Tell the man/child he can pack his bags. Your poor DH if that is to be his new step-bro.
It won't be his step-brother. My husband is almost 40 and had only met the kid once in the 10 years his mom has been with the guy. Even though they are "engaged" they have no plans to get married. She just didn't like being 60 and calling him her boyfriend.
Oh so many more details about this trip came out last night. I'll share the FUN details later. Off to the London Eye since man child was afraid of heights and wouldn't take his friend anywhere near it.
Oh, man. Awesome of you to show her around... Any chance you're also trying to escape the houseguests?
The MIL (and my kids) came along too. The fiancé and man child went off to another country. But that would have been a good plan. Its basically what I did last night with RockNVoll.
Oh, man. Awesome of you to show her around... Any chance you're also trying to escape the houseguests?
The MIL (and my kids) came along too. The fiancé and man child went off to another country. But that would have been a good plan. Its basically what I did last night with RockNVoll.
It sounds like it's worked out pretty well for you, in the end!
Oy... I'd suggest (if it won't impact her return flight), that she pick different travel plans for next week.
I'd let DH handle MIL and MIL's fiancé. This would make me think _very_ poorly of the both of them... But, if man-child hasn't learned how to behave by 28, it might be indicative of how spoiled he has been...
Yes, she is looking into different travel options should he continue to behave like this. She's going to lose money on it, but she's willing to do it.
I CANNOT stand being lied to. It will be dealt with. My husband would be much more diplomatic, but something will be said. Man child was mostly brought up with his dad and mom (not sure when they divorced). My MIL didn't enter the picture until this kid was in college, but she is a pushover so its not like it would have been any better.
I can kinda see the MIL not wanting to basically parent someone she met who should already have been an adult. I could see doing a mental "this child is an ass, but it's not my ass to kick" sort of thing. But, I don't think I could witness the man-child's behavior without doing something...
Blargh. Here's hoping the girl is not out too much money to alter her travel plans. Could she do something fun like take the Chunnel to Paris, or take a train up to Scotland, or to some other part of England? Maybe that would be less pricey...
Post by UnderProtest on Oct 16, 2014 17:35:18 GMT -5
She is 27, but a fairly timid person so I don't think she's up for traveling all by herself. She's actually quite nice. I have more in common with her than my MIL and her fiancé. She likes good food and culture. We have bonded and I wouldn't mind sight seeing with her next week if she decides to ditch the asshole.
Oh, so another detail.....when the whole son/asshole/man child was going to come, my MIL said he would be gone all day sight seeing and he would just really be around the house to sleep. That has NOT been the case. He leaves the house at like noon and is back by 6. When my husband and I were talking to her about that tonight, she said, oh yeah, that's what I thought too. So why is the jerk expecting dinner every night? Oh yeah, and he was pissy that my husband and I took the girl out last night for dinner. He was at the pub down the street and couldn't be bothered to check on his friend. But then was mad that she went out. My husband stopped at home before meeting us out and invited the man child to come and he still refused. According to my MIL its because his dad wouldn't leave my MIL at the house alone......so apparently he can't go anywhere without his dad?!?!?!? But yet, he is still mad that she went out.
Oh, and yes, he is clearly interested in her. And she is clearly out of his league.....in sooooooo many ways (even before this pathetic behavior).
Yes, she is looking into different travel options should he continue to behave like this. She's going to lose money on it, but she's willing to do it.
I CANNOT stand being lied to. It will be dealt with. My husband would be much more diplomatic, but something will be said. Man child was mostly brought up with his dad and mom (not sure when they divorced). My MIL didn't enter the picture until this kid was in college, but she is a pushover so its not like it would have been any better.
I can kinda see the MIL not wanting to basically parent someone she met who should already have been an adult. I could see doing a mental "this child is an ass, but it's not my ass to kick" sort of thing. But, I don't think I could witness the man-child's behavior without doing something...
Blargh. Here's hoping the girl is not out too much money to alter her travel plans. Could she do something fun like take the Chunnel to Paris, or take a train up to Scotland, or to some other part of England? Maybe that would be less pricey...
The MIL is not only not parenting him, but she is making pathetic excuses for his poor behavior. Its almost comical her reasoning for his actions. I almost want to go with the whole group this weekend to see what my husband will say to the man child. He's barely been around and still wants to kick the kid's ass. My husband basically planned this whole weekend trip while the kid watched hockey on his iPad. I can guarantee you that my husband had better things to do than plan someone else's vacation.
Her back up plan is to just come back to London when my husband, MIL, and the fiancé return this weekend. I told her she was welcome to come back with the group instead of going on to another country with the man child. Last minute tickets are kind of expensive so she is trying to figure out the best option.
The MIL (and my kids) came along too. The fiancé and man child went off to another country. But that would have been a good plan. Its basically what I did last night with RockNVoll.
It sounds like it's worked out pretty well for you, in the end!
Eeeehhh, I still had to spend the day with my MIL.
The poor girl is so sweet, I really feel bad for her. I hope she can find a not-too-expensive way to get out of traveling with the man-child. At this point, I don't know how she could spend 1:1 time with him at all. Maybe she could look into a cheap hostel or B&B wherever they were planning on going and just go their separate ways.
I so want to be a fly on the wall during this weekend trip with everyone. My husband is fairly livid with this kid and he is NOT afraid of saying anything or hurting the kid's feelings. My husband does have fun pushing people's buttons so it would be quite amusing to watch. Not enough to actually go, but its fun to think about. It won't be cheap to get the train back with everyone else, but she can do it. Plus, my husband has promised he won't leave her if the kid is being an ass and my husband will be directing this weekend and they want to do the same things. So she will get to do the things there that she wants instead of sitting in a hotel room watching tv.
I so want to be a fly on the wall during this weekend trip with everyone. My husband is fairly livid with this kid and he is NOT afraid of saying anything or hurting the kid's feelings. My husband does have fun pushing people's buttons so it would be quite amusing to watch.
Ask him to do it before they go so you can enjoy it. And then post the conversation here, word for word. Because as I've been reading these updates, all I want in life is for someone to tell him in no uncertain terms what a selfish, lazy asshole he's being, and how unspeakably rude he's being to his friend. That poor girl. She's so lucky you're there to save this from being the worst vacation she's ever had. I hope she never speaks to him again after this.