I think most of us that don't like this commercial--and that's what it really is, since they're selling clothing for a profit--aren't objecting to frank discussions with children or encouraging feminism.
Doesn't Disney do the same thing (making videos and movies to sell their crap)? What is their message? Marry practical strangers who are royalty and live happily ever after? They sell a shitton of shirts and paraphernalia and I am pretty sure our daughters have a much less chance of that happening to them than what these girls are saying.
I think most of us that don't like this commercial--and that's what it really is, since they're selling clothing for a profit--aren't objecting to frank discussions with children or encouraging feminism.
Doesn't Disney do the same thing? What is their message? Marry practical strangers who are royalty and live happily ever after? They sell a shitton of shirts and paraphernaliaand I am pretty sure our daughters have a much less chance of that happening to them.
I like the video but would not show it to DD. It did get me thinking that I really do need to start a dialogue with her about sexual assault.
And people use fuck to try to get their point across all the time "Agreeing to disagree is different than shaming people for how much they choose to stay in contact with their kids. Step the fuck off."
I feel like I am having a hard time articulating myself in here. To me, rape and sexual assault of young women and rape and sexual assault of children are separate issues because little boys also get assaulted. One is women assaulted by men, and the other is children assaulted by grownups, regardless of gender. Again I think it makes much more sense in my head than in writing. So I think I will stop now.
Ah, I see.
To my mind, because more girls will grow up to be women assaulted by men than boys will grow up to be men assaulted by men (or women), the message for girls needs to be different and has to be different. The message needs to be targeted to and about females of all ages differently than males. ETA: I don't necessarily think THIS video is the way to go about that, I'm talking generally about assault as a feminist issue here.
I was a girl who was not assaulted by a grown up, who grew up to be a woman assaulted by a man in a society that is disinclined to believe me or fully support me unless my story fits exactly the story they'd want to hear: that I was dressed like a nun, walking home from the library in broad daylight, and abducted at gunpoint by a rogue, very bad man who no one liked. Fuck that. I was always a feminist, but you bet your ass I will take it to the wall on how antifeminists degrade the experience and reality of assault victims. And I thank heaven that I received so many feminist messages from such a young age so that even though in my deepest soul I have the same doubts every victim likely has, they are small and they are shouted down by the rest of my brain.
That is not to say I don't think messages about sexual assault are unimportant for boys and for men to hear. Like I said, it's just different.
I do agree with you on pretty much everything you said here. I was assaulted at 15 and believed for years and years that it was my fault because I was drunk and flirty.
I like the video but would not show it to DD. It did get me thinking that I really do need to start a dialogue with her about sexual assault.
And people use fuck to try to get their point across all the time "Agreeing to disagree is different than shaming people for how much they choose to stay in contact with their kids. Step the fuck off."
And people use fuck to try to get their point across all the time "Agreeing to disagree is different than shaming people for how much they choose to stay in contact with their kids. Step the fuck off."
Omg, lol.
I bet you were GIDDY typing this, anticipating that it would set off a big lightbulb moment for everyone.
Post by pantsparty on Oct 23, 2014 11:02:13 GMT -5
I agree with @booby that the reason I actually watched the whole video is because it was so shocking. I've heard and read these stats before; however, this time I actually paid attention.
Definitely a bit of pearl clutching, though. Not, like, a triple strand, just a single strand. Or maybe just a necklace with a pearl pendant. I'm clutching my pearl. Or just holding it between my finger and my thumb.