Is there a thread on this Indiana nonsense?

[thebulldog]

Bc i am not understanding how this is actually happening.

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[pepperpeople]

Yeah, these days you have to specify what Indiana nonsense you're talking about. Assuming you mean the religious freedom to discriminate bill, here you go:


www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2015/03/25/gov-mike-pence-sign-religious-freedom-bill-thursday/70448858/


I've lived in some backwards states but Indiana took the cake. Never been more glad I got out of there.

[bernsteincat]

::NERD ALERT:: Not sure if anyone is familiar with Drum Corps International (simplistically, it's professional marching band). Their headquarters are in Indy and Championships are held at Lucas Oil every year. DCI has tons of gay participants and people are ripshit-pissed about this. There's petitions floating around calling for DCI to remove its headquarters from Indy, which would suck because the city and the organization have worked so closely together for years, and kids are saying they won't march at all if DCI doesn't take some kind of stand. I have no idea if anything will happen, and I highly doubt kids will give up marching when push comes to shove, but I'd like to see some action from them.

[underwaterrhymes]

Pence is a shithead and so is every person in the Indiana House and Senate who voted for this.

[pt716]

Do they not think this will ever backfire on them? What happens if someone from as religion they don't like tries to invoke this?

[auntie]

Indiana being Indiana. 

[underwaterrhymes]

Mar 26, 2015 12:15:55 GMT -5 pt716 said:

Do they not think this will ever backfire on them? What happens if someone from as religion they don't like tries to invoke this?

Just wait until a Muslim tries to use this law to support something and see what happens. It's pretty obvious that the people who created it only want it to apply to Christians.

[thebulldog]

Mar 26, 2015 12:45:41 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

Mar 26, 2015 12:15:55 GMT -5 pt716 said:

Do they not think this will ever backfire on them? What happens if someone from as religion they don't like tries to invoke this?

Just wait until a Muslim tries to use this law to support something and see what happens. It's pretty obvious that the people who created it only want it to apply to Christians.

If i was a business owner i would do all kinds of stupid shit in the name of the law to show how dumb this is.
My religion does not allow me to pay taxes. Sorry state!

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[thebulldog]

Mar 26, 2015 11:30:25 GMT -5 pepperpeople said:

Yeah, these days you have to specify what Indiana nonsense you're talking about. Assuming you mean the religious freedom to discriminate bill, here you go:


www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2015/03/25/gov-mike-pence-sign-religious-freedom-bill-thursday/70448858/


I've lived in some backwards states but Indiana took the cake. Never been more glad I got out of there.

True. But you all caught on.


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[katietornado]

Mar 26, 2015 11:43:37 GMT -5 bernsteincat said:

::NERD ALERT:: Not sure if anyone is familiar with Drum Corps International (simplistically, it's professional marching band). Their headquarters are in Indy and Championships are held at Lucas Oil every year. DCI has tons of gay participants and people are ripshit-pissed about this. There's petitions floating around calling for DCI to remove its headquarters from Indy, which would suck because the city and the organization have worked so closely together for years, and kids are saying they won't march at all if DCI doesn't take some kind of stand. I have no idea if anything will happen, and I highly doubt kids will give up marching when push comes to shove, but I'd like to see some action from them.

Yes.  I love marching band so much.  My high school won USSBA class 3A national championship in 1999.  Proud trumpeter here   DCI was a big deal for my classmates, and several of us got heavily involved with them.  And at least two of those several were super gay.

[msmerymac]

Mar 26, 2015 11:43:37 GMT -5 bernsteincat said:

::NERD ALERT:: Not sure if anyone is familiar with Drum Corps International (simplistically, it's professional marching band). Their headquarters are in Indy and Championships are held at Lucas Oil every year. DCI has tons of gay participants and people are ripshit-pissed about this. There's petitions floating around calling for DCI to remove its headquarters from Indy, which would suck because the city and the organization have worked so closely together for years, and kids are saying they won't march at all if DCI doesn't take some kind of stand. I have no idea if anything will happen, and I highly doubt kids will give up marching when push comes to shove, but I'd like to see some action from them.

I was trying to find this and couldn't, but I remember George Takei talking about something that was a large conference that involved a lot of LGBT people when the bill was proposed last week. Maybe it was DCI. Regardless, there is already business backlash. 

[swsaradee]

Apparently there are already some consequences to the law......

Salesforce won't travel to Indiana over religious freedom law

[debatethis]

Mar 26, 2015 13:30:24 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Mar 26, 2015 11:43:37 GMT -5 bernsteincat said:

::NERD ALERT:: Not sure if anyone is familiar with Drum Corps International (simplistically, it's professional marching band). Their headquarters are in Indy and Championships are held at Lucas Oil every year. DCI has tons of gay participants and people are ripshit-pissed about this. There's petitions floating around calling for DCI to remove its headquarters from Indy, which would suck because the city and the organization have worked so closely together for years, and kids are saying they won't march at all if DCI doesn't take some kind of stand. I have no idea if anything will happen, and I highly doubt kids will give up marching when push comes to shove, but I'd like to see some action from them.

I was trying to find this and couldn't, but I remember George Takei talking about something that was a large conference that involved a lot of LGBT people when the bill was proposed last week. Maybe it was DCI. Regardless, there is already business backlash. 

GenCon. It generates $50m in revenue for Indy: www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2015/03/24/gen-con-threatens-move-convention-gov-mike-pence-signs-religious-freedom-bill/70393474/

[mala]

Mar 26, 2015 12:45:41 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

Mar 26, 2015 12:15:55 GMT -5 pt716 said:

Do they not think this will ever backfire on them? What happens if someone from as religion they don't like tries to invoke this?

Just wait until a Muslim tries to use this law to support something and see what happens. It's pretty obvious that the people who created it only want it to apply to Christians.

This x100.

[omgzombies]

Mar 26, 2015 13:43:29 GMT -5 debatethis said:

Mar 26, 2015 13:30:24 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

I was trying to find this and couldn't, but I remember George Takei talking about something that was a large conference that involved a lot of LGBT people when the bill was proposed last week. Maybe it was DCI. Regardless, there is already business backlash. 

GenCon. It generates $50m in revenue for Indy: www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2015/03/24/gen-con-threatens-move-convention-gov-mike-pence-signs-religious-freedom-bill/70393474/

This makes me proud to be a geek.

[charminglife]

I would love to see the NCAA move the Final Four from Indy over this, but I know it wont happen.

[5thofjuly]

As a Hoosier, this sickens me. It doesn't surprise me, sadly, but it sickens me.

[debatethis]

Oooh, statement from the CEO of Salesforce.com. Well done, dude.

Marc Benioff
CEO, Salesforce.com

Today we are canceling all programs that require our customers & employees to travel to Indiana to face discrimination. "I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exhalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together." -- Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr.

sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/03/26/salesforce-ceo-says-company-is-cancelling-all-programs-in-indiana-over-lgbt-discrimination-fears/

[MarmeeNoir]

I want out of here.

[sunterp]

I didn't think it possible to make my home state of Arizona look good but thanks Indiana, Even Arizona's nut job governor was able to see all the money this bill would cost the state. I have friends in Indiana and one group is super pissed this passed the other doesn't understand how liberals can be so mean and call supporters of this law bigots. I shake my head at the second group.

[MeMyselfandI]

I'm ashamed of my state right now. I am beyond livid at this horrible excuse of a law.

And I do believe the NCAA does have issues with this law, but whether or not they do something about it remains to be seen.

[MeMyselfandI]

And this photo makes me cringe. Separation of church and state my ass! I can't even with this shit!

[idahome]

The fact that he signed this bill into law in secrecy is just the icing on the cake with the stupidity that is his administration. Mike Pence is a coward and his decision NOT to veto this bill will hurt my home state for years.

He's still thinking about running for president, too.

[auntie]

The co-author of the bill was featured on Family Feud a few years back--

www.indystar.com/article/20130428/NEWS05/304280012/Behind-Closed-Doors-Indiana-Sen-Brent-Steele-family-Family-Feud-

[pepperpeople]

Mar 26, 2015 14:26:33 GMT -5 MeMyselfandI said:

I'm ashamed of my state right now. I am beyond livid at this horrible excuse of a law.

And I do believe the NCAA does have issues with this law, but whether or not they do something about it remains to be seen.

NCAA speaks!  And good for them.

www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/2015/03/26/ncaa-indiana-religious-freedom-law-mike-pence-mark-emmert-final-four-indianapolis/70490096/

[darkling_glory]

Mar 26, 2015 14:32:56 GMT -5 @vicmo said:

Mar 26, 2015 13:43:29 GMT -5 debatethis said:

GenCon. It generates $50m in revenue for Indy: www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2015/03/24/gen-con-threatens-move-convention-gov-mike-pence-signs-religious-freedom-bill/70393474/

My H is going to Gen Con this year and was happy to read about their protest, but apparently they wouldn't be leaving before 2020 due to the existing contracts in place. :/

I've gone every year for the last 11 years. Its a great con, and it's the people that make it great.

I would hate for it to have to find a new location because Indianapolis is such a great convention town.

However, I'd gladly pay more money and travel farther if it meant all of my friends were able to feel safe and welcome at the con. I was extremely proud of GenCon for speaking out against the bill. I hope Indiana repeals this, but if they don't repeal, I want GenCon to leave the state. 50 million in revenue is nothing to sneeze at.

[secretlyevil]

Hateful human being.

[josieposy]

Tell me this will go to SCOTUS.

ETA: Fuck I forgot about Hobby Lobby.

Lawyers: HALP!

[skwcm80]

Mar 26, 2015 14:07:23 GMT -5 MarmeeNoir said:

I want out of here.

You and me both.

[lilibet]

I hate Pence so so much. This is going to be such a disaster. And the fact that he signed this in private shows he's a coward.

I do like how many businesses I've seen online post that they're open for business for everyone. Many are displaying stickers in their windows. It's not up yet but there's supposed to be a listing of businesses doing this so you know which ones to visit if you want to support them - www.openforservice.org/busniess-directory/

And fellow band geek here and I will be so sad if this doesn't get reversed and DCI leaves.