Post by amynumbers on Mar 30, 2015 20:30:56 GMT -5
The whole thing is so funny because KC (and I say this with love!) is kind of a hard ass about food (boxed mashed potatoes excluded).
I have no idea what WIC options are in other states, but if she lived here I am confident KC would be already be buying higher qualities items than WIC covered.
The whole thing is so funny because KC (and I say this with love!) is kind of a hard ass about food (boxed mashed potatoes excluded).
I have no idea what WIC options are in other states, but if she lived here I am confident KC would be already be buying higher qualities items than WIC covered.
Trader joes here actually accepts assistance programs. Free logs o mozzarella cheese is mighty tempting...
I know here you can qualify for Medicaid based on disability alone. I am assuming you are the same? I agree with you.
Yes, those are the rules here. Literally here you cannot get respite/home based services/aba without Medicaid. They only accept Medicaid not private insurance.
It's the same here. The nicu basically forced me to get it when he was born at under 1 kg. I thought it was abusing the system because we have good insurance. I am so thankful now. We pay $12 a month but it has opened so many doors for us having it as secondary.
I agree with most people on here & wouldn't take it. Anyone can go to our local food bank & get food but it really should be left for the people that need it.
When my mom & dad got divorced we got government cheese & butter for a little while. That cheese was so good! I wish I could find something similar now (not free, of course).
The mindset that Yard sales and free car seats send people to hell will always get XP'ed.
Go away. You contribute nothing to this board except being an absolute bitch. You never offer support or really even participate in threads. Why are you here?
Go away. You contribute nothing to this board except being an absolute bitch. You never offer support or really even participate in threads. Why are you here?
You already addressed this post...ten hours ago. Once wasn't enough?
Nope the funny thing about a public message board is that I can address things more than once. So please enlighten me. Why are you here?
Those therapists also charge $150/hr. Even if we cut back to just a single session a week...that's $15k oop a year.
On the same token I'd think it would be kind of crappy if a family had a 7 figure annual salary went on Medicaid to access free therapies when they can afford to pay oop for private therapists.
I'm confused by your second statement because you later stated: "Yes, those are the rules here. Literally here you cannot get respite/home based services/aba without Medicaid. They only accept Medicaid not private insurance."
If a family had a 7 figure annual salary, wouldn't they need to get on Medicaid based on this statement to access those services?
Also, $150x52 is $7800, not $15k, so not sure if you meant to say sessions 2x/wk? Also, how do you determine what your "need" is for the services versus what you could afford yourself? If your dd didn't have Medicaid, you would go without these services, whereas if you went without WIC, you would not go without the food items offered?
I think it's perfectly fine for you to opt out of using WIC, and fine for people to agree with you when you ask for opinions. However, I very much support accessing services that you qualify for based on eligibility requirements. You could always ask the WIC office or something if you wanted to use it but weren't sure. This would probably be the route I would take if I were in your position. And to play devil's advocate, sometimes programs NEED people to take full advantage so they can justify the future need for the program and show that many people are utilizing the services. I don't think WIC has any issue justifying its existence, but this idea falls in line with the "use the money budgeted for the program" logic.
In short, I wouldn't judge you either way.
Her therapy sessions are two hours a week. So yes $15k a year.
Those providers don't take private insurance but likely would take prepaid self pay clients.
Yes, I do consider need based on what we actually couldn't afford ourselves.
Those therapists also charge $150/hr. Even if we cut back to just a single session a week...that's $15k oop a year.
On the same token I'd think it would be kind of crappy if a family had a 7 figure annual salary went on Medicaid to access free therapies when they can afford to pay oop for private therapists.
I'm confused by your second statement because you later stated: "Yes, those are the rules here. Literally here you cannot get respite/home based services/aba without Medicaid. They only accept Medicaid not private insurance."
If a family had a 7 figure annual salary, wouldn't they need to get on Medicaid based on this statement to access those services?
Also, $150x52 is $7800, not $15k, so not sure if you meant to say sessions 2x/wk? Also, how do you determine what your "need" is for the services versus what you could afford yourself? If your dd didn't have Medicaid, you would go without these services, whereas if you went without WIC, you would not go without the food items offered?
I think it's perfectly fine for you to opt out of using WIC, and fine for people to agree with you when you ask for opinions. However, I very much support accessing services that you qualify for based on eligibility requirements. You could always ask the WIC office or something if you wanted to use it but weren't sure. This would probably be the route I would take if I were in your position. And to play devil's advocate, sometimes programs NEED people to take full advantage so they can justify the future need for the program and show that many people are utilizing the services. I don't think WIC has any issue justifying its existence, but this idea falls in line with the "use the money budgeted for the program" logic.
In short, I wouldn't judge you either way.
When you qualify based on a child's disability income doesn't matter. You may have to pay on a sliding scale but the child can qualify. This is because of the access to services it allows. My mom ran a dayhab and respite services for adults with developmental disabilities. It was Medicaid or Medicaid waiver only. You could not self pay.
I'm confused by your second statement because you later stated: "Yes, those are the rules here. Literally here you cannot get respite/home based services/aba without Medicaid. They only accept Medicaid not private insurance."
If a family had a 7 figure annual salary, wouldn't they need to get on Medicaid based on this statement to access those services?
Also, $150x52 is $7800, not $15k, so not sure if you meant to say sessions 2x/wk? Also, how do you determine what your "need" is for the services versus what you could afford yourself? If your dd didn't have Medicaid, you would go without these services, whereas if you went without WIC, you would not go without the food items offered?
I think it's perfectly fine for you to opt out of using WIC, and fine for people to agree with you when you ask for opinions. However, I very much support accessing services that you qualify for based on eligibility requirements. You could always ask the WIC office or something if you wanted to use it but weren't sure. This would probably be the route I would take if I were in your position. And to play devil's advocate, sometimes programs NEED people to take full advantage so they can justify the future need for the program and show that many people are utilizing the services. I don't think WIC has any issue justifying its existence, but this idea falls in line with the "use the money budgeted for the program" logic.
In short, I wouldn't judge you either way.
When you qualify based on a child's disability income doesn't matter. You may have to pay on a sliding scale but the child can qualify. This is because of the access to services it allows. My mom ran a dayhab and respite services for adults with developmental disabilities. It was Medicaid or Medicaid waiver only. You could not self pay.
How often do you have to "re qualify" is it a yearly thing? I am just curious if this is state dependent?
When you qualify based on a child's disability income doesn't matter. You may have to pay on a sliding scale but the child can qualify. This is because of the access to services it allows. My mom ran a dayhab and respite services for adults with developmental disabilities. It was Medicaid or Medicaid waiver only. You could not self pay.
How often do you have to "re qualify" is it a yearly thing? I am just curious if this is state dependent?
Here I have to reapply annually. It may be because he does not have an official diagnosis of developmental delay and he could out grow it so they need to verify? I don't know if that changes if he had a diagnosis of developmental delay or austism. It is a pain and I understand how people fall through the cracks. I am a LMSW and get overwhelmed and lost, I can't imagine working , more kids, limited budgets , trying to navigate the system.
How often do you have to "re qualify" is it a yearly thing? I am just curious if this is state dependent?
Here I have to reapply annually. It may be because he does not have an official diagnosis of developmental delay and he could out grow it so they need to verify? I don't know if that changes if he had a diagnosis of developmental delay or austism. It is a pain and I understand how people fall through the cracks. I am a LMSW and get overwhelmed and lost, I can't imagine working , more kids, limited budgets , trying to navigate the system.
Grrrr just another social program that makes it difficult to access services. I asked because I have a friend here who gets it for both her kids along with SSI and she has to reapply yearly too. Her kids both have asd.
Here I have to reapply annually. It may be because he does not have an official diagnosis of developmental delay and he could out grow it so they need to verify? I don't know if that changes if he had a diagnosis of developmental delay or austism. It is a pain and I understand how people fall through the cracks. I am a LMSW and get overwhelmed and lost, I can't imagine working , more kids, limited budgets , trying to navigate the system.
Grrrr just another social program that makes it difficult to access services. I asked because I have a friend here who gets it for both her kids along with SSI and she has to reapply yearly too. Her kids both have asd.
Oh that sucks! I get the renewal letter a week before it's due and I have to turn in pay stubs and all of his medical history every time. Thankfully, we are relatively organized and keep it together and have access to a scanner and I have time to do it quickly and send it in. They are hoping people get confused or forget. It is a shame that they aren't trying to streamline services, making them easier to access versus hiding them and hoping you miss a deadline. These services deal with the most vulnerable and over extended population and just pile on rather than help.
I hate to hear about your friend. I had hoped if we got a real diagnosis atleast maybe it would ease up the application but apparently not since we are close to you and very similar.
Grrrr just another social program that makes it difficult to access services. I asked because I have a friend here who gets it for both her kids along with SSI and she has to reapply yearly too. Her kids both have asd.
Oh that sucks! I get the renewal letter a week before it's due and I have to turn in pay stubs and all of his medical history every time. Thankfully, we are relatively organized and keep it together and have access to a scanner and I have time to do it quickly and send it in. They are hoping people get confused or forget. It is a shame that they aren't trying to streamline services, making them easier to access versus hiding them and hoping you miss a deadline. These services deal with the most vulnerable and over extended population and just pile on rather than help.
I hate to hear about your friend. I had hoped if we got a real diagnosis atleast maybe it would ease up the application but apparently not since we are close to you and very similar.
Ah I forgot where you lived I remember now. Yep I would bet the laws are the same. It's such a shame the way you describe the situation. I can't imagine most people can keep up while dealing with life.
When you qualify based on a child's disability income doesn't matter. You may have to pay on a sliding scale but the child can qualify. This is because of the access to services it allows. My mom ran a dayhab and respite services for adults with developmental disabilities. It was Medicaid or Medicaid waiver only. You could not self pay.
How often do you have to "re qualify" is it a yearly thing? I am just curious if this is state dependent?
Her therapy sessions are two hours a week. So yes $15k a year.
Those providers don't take private insurance but likely would take prepaid self pay clients.
Yes, I do consider need based on what we actually couldn't afford ourselves.
Oh, got it. What kind of therapy is it, or more specifically, who is providing the therapy? I am just interested, if you don't mind sharing.
Even if providers don't accept private insurance, sometimes people can go to a provider and submit claims themselves to their insurance and get it reimbursed. I am sure you would have looked into this if it's a possibility for you all, but wanted to mention this for people to know in general about providers who don't take private insurance.
I misunderstood your post because I thought you were saying no one who wasn't on Medicaid could get services from these providers. Thank you for clarifying.
I don't mind sharing. She takes social skills therapy as well as aquatic therapy. They recently opened hippo therapy near us so I'm going to add her name to the list.
I don't think it's unethical to take a service you qualify for. If you were lying about your situation, to quality, that's a different story.
In my community there's lots of free offerings. Free car seats, free clothing drives, a clinic that provides free physicals just 10 minutes away. Do you think it's equally ethical to use these kinds of programs if I don't need them?
I don't think it's unethical to take a service you qualify for. If you were lying about your situation, to quality, that's a different story.
In my community there's lots of free offerings. Free car seats, free clothing drives, a clinic that provides free physicals just 10 minutes away. Do you think it's equally ethical to use these kinds of programs if I don't need them?
I don't mind sharing. She takes social skills therapy as well as aquatic therapy. They recently opened hippo therapy near us so I'm going to add her name to the list.
What is hippo therapy? I've never heard of that, but I'm intrigued.