I have never heard of "skater skirt." She's wearing a skirt. She also wearing a top and a sweater. She looks like she tried with whatever limited resources were available to her college 20 year old self. I shudder at what 20 year old me put together (and I interned in Congress at age 21 and OMG. I was bad but I was poor and knew very little. ). She looks like that.
And yeah the West Coast is way more casual than the East Coast. I felt that acutely during the aforementioned internship. Lol.
I dunno. I'm doing a lot of GIS'ing trying to find work appropriate skater skirt outfits and not finding much.
even with a very conservative shirt, it doesn't do it for me. look:
Neither of these looks is particularly professional to me.
It's not a matter of pencil skirts being the ONLY work appropriate skirt. It's that skater skirts are generally shorter and more... poofy. That poofy + short = not great for work. Any time your skirt could, with a fairly minor oops, show off your panties... not great for work.
Add some black tights and a sweater and its better.
I have never heard of "skater skirt." She's wearing a skirt. She also wearing a top and a sweater. She looks like she tried with whatever limited resources were available to her college 20 year old self. I shudder at what 20 year old me put together (and I interned in Congress at age 21 and OMG. I was bad but I was poor and knew very little. ). She looks like that.
And yeah the West Coast is way more casual than the East Coast. I leaned that acutely during the aforementioned internship. Lol.
A skater skirt is a style of skirt. She is wearing one.
But yes, the Hill interns are always side-eye worthy.
The pages were so lucky. They at least got uniforms. Ha.
I have never heard of "skater skirt." She's wearing a skirt. She also wearing a top and a sweater. She looks like she tried with whatever limited resources were available to her college 20 year old self. I shudder at what 20 year old me put together (and I interned in Congress at age 21 and OMG. I was bad but I was poor and knew very little. ). She looks like that.
And yeah the West Coast is way more casual than the East Coast. I felt that acutely during the aforementioned internship. Lol.
Post by StrawberryBlondie on Apr 22, 2015 16:44:30 GMT -5
This girl goes to a college that costs almost $60k a year. Lets not pretend she's so poor and has no resources to get somewhere to purchase interview-appropriate attire.
This girl goes to a college that costs almost $60k a year. Lets not pretend she's so poor and has no resources to get somewhere to purchase interview-appropriate attire.
i'd wager a guess that i work in the most casual office on this board and we'd never hire someone who came in (late) dressed like that.
We wouldn't, but not because of the outfit. Because of the late. Timeliness is important.
I've never in my life worn a suit to an interview & I think I've only interviewed one person wearing one.
Exactly. I probably wore something less appropriate than hers when I interviewed for a lab job that I landed. But it was ok in that environment where band tshirts and torn jeans were common. As HBC said, dress a couple levels above the norm. Plus, I was in college and stupid. Even later, though, my button down top and work pants made me like 5 levels dressier than the average lab rat, and my feedback was usually "sorry you didn't get the job, but we had a grad student apply who will work for free." Nothing about my looks which were often praised.
So, I really don't see much wrong with the outfit, although I wouldn't feel comfortable in that unitard. I'd choose something higher cut and less tight. But it's definitely not club wear.
BUT BUT BUT
Don't fucking SHOW UP LATE to an interview. Acceptable excuses are "I took the metro but a terror threat shut it down."
And if you're a college student actually getting feedback, but fucking GRATEFUL.
Post by 2curlydogs on Apr 22, 2015 16:51:13 GMT -5
When I was interviewing I judged men for their clothes. Better believe it. You come in looking and acting like the stereotypical computer nerd with your Indiana Jones hat, Gandalf staff, and Neo trench coat? Buh-bye.
This girl goes to a college that costs almost $60k a year. Lets not pretend she's so poor and has no resources to get somewhere to purchase interview-appropriate attire.
:/
This is a silly comment.
Maybe. It also might be my bias because of everyone i know or knew that went to Oberlin.
This girl goes to a college that costs almost $60k a year. Lets not pretend she's so poor and has no resources to get somewhere to purchase interview-appropriate attire.
:/
This is a silly comment.
And completely irrelevant as she could be receiving need based financial aid.
When I was interviewing I judged men for their clothes. Better believe it. You come in looking and acting like the stereotypical computer nerd with your Indiana Jones hat, Gandalf staff, and Neo trench coat? Buh-bye.
My least appropriate interview outfit was actually because I asked a friend for help. I had absolutely nothing beyond jeans at the time, and she lent me a skirt. It was definitely too short. But at least it was "dressed up" for that environment.
The only time I ever wore a business suit was in high school, and it was because I had a leading role in How to Succeed in Business without Really Trying. Lol
Post by cookiemdough on Apr 22, 2015 17:10:46 GMT -5
Does a school costing $60k a year not have a career counseling center? We were required to have a session regarding resume writing and appropriate attire. I honestly can't believe we are attributing her poor outfit choice to color. Her sweater was way too casual for an interview. Her tank or whatever the shirt was is completely inappropriate and if you get a hole in your black tights (also inappropriate imo) then take the motherfuckers off.
When I was interviewing I judged men for their clothes. Better believe it. You come in looking and acting like the stereotypical computer nerd with your Indiana Jones hat, Gandalf staff, and Neo trench coat? Buh-bye.
ANECDOTES
Lol. This made me laugh.
And it's true.
Unfortunately that particular individual, while I did interview him, it was not my final say and he was hired.
And turned out to be a total train wreck. Of course.
Post by cookiemdough on Apr 22, 2015 17:21:18 GMT -5
I am sorry it is not about just clothing. It is about her judgement. I want to hire someone that I don't need to have an uncomfortable prep conversation before meeting a client to spell out that maybe tights with holes in them and a tank top are probably not going to give off the best first impression for our business. And interview requires you to put your best foot forward. If you don't, then don't be surprised you don't get the job.
When I was interviewing I judged men for their clothes. Better believe it. You come in looking and acting like the stereotypical computer nerd with your Indiana Jones hat, Gandalf staff, and Neo trench coat? Buh-bye.
ANECDOTES
I didn't even know my brother had ever interviewed for a job!
Does a school costing $60k a year not have a career counseling center? We were required to have a session regarding resume writing and appropriate attire. I honestly can't believe we are attributing her poor outfit choice to color. Her sweater was way too casual for an interview. Her tank or whatever the shirt was is completely inappropriate and if you get a hole in your black tights (also inappropriate imo) then take the motherfuckers off.
I went to a fairly prestigious private university and did their mock interview and resume review stuff. What they taught me was completely wrong. Especially about my resume. They didn't even address the differences with science resumes which, thankfully, someone who turned down my app was kind enough to help me learn the field specific requirements.
I can also see someone thinking it's better to have a run in your hose than to show so much skin. Of course the skirt should be long enough, anyway, but in a reasonable oh shit situation, just hope they don't notice. My H barely notices what I wear, so it's not unreasonable to hope for the same with a male dominated stereotypically oblivious field.
I am often taken aback by the misplaced confidence of my students. It's not entitlement, exactly, but they have spent their lives being told that you should stand up for yourself when you see injustice in the world. This comes across loud and clear here - she didn't get the job (though likely not because of her clothes but rather the lateness and probably an attitude issue), she assumes it's a sexist thing and she is going to make sure the world knows that SHE IS WOMAN, HEAR HER ROAR. I often find myself having to explain that sometimes, wanting something isn't enough and sometimes, no amount of conversation about it is going to make things the way you want them.
Or I could be reading into this too much. It's been a day.
"Hello babies. Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. On the outside, babies, you've got a hundred years here. There's only one rule that I know of, babies-"God damn it, you've got to be kind.”
Does a school costing $60k a year not have a career counseling center? We were required to have a session regarding resume writing and appropriate attire. I honestly can't believe we are attributing her poor outfit choice to color. Her sweater was way too casual for an interview. Her tank or whatever the shirt was is completely inappropriate and if you get a hole in your black tights (also inappropriate imo) then take the motherfuckers off.
I went to a fairly prestigious private university and did their mock interview and resume review stuff. What they taught me was completely wrong. Especially about my resume. They didn't even address the differences with science resumes which, thankfully, someone who turned down my app was kind enough to help me learn the field specific requirements.
I can also see someone thinking it's better to have a run in your hose than to show so much skin. Of course the skirt should be long enough, anyway, but in a reasonable oh shit situation, just hope they don't notice. My H barely notices what I wear, so it's not unreasonable to hope for the same with a male dominated stereotypically oblivious field.
Well I am the nerd that brings extra hose with me to important stuff. But I think the hole looks worse because she was already sloppy in her interview attire. A small hole when clothed appropriately would not be a big deal. And yes I judge guys interview clothing as well.
Putting aside her other legit issues that prevented her from getting the job, if a guy showed up to a tech job in gender equivalent attire (essentially business casual) his choice of clothing would not have been an issue at all.
I sent this article to my husband because he has a computer science degree and he worked for tech companies for years before he changed careers.
We discussed this for about an hour after we both got home from work.
He pretty much has the exact same opinion and stance as heyjude. He made a lot of the same arguments that heyjude made.
(So, yes, my husband and I have completely different opinions about this thing.)