Bruce seems so genuine and down to earth - he doesn't want to film any of the transition and do it on his own terms. He seems open and accepting, it's so hard to believe he was/is part of the Kardashians.
Agreed. I'm sure Kris is wanting to spin it so they are seen more favourably.
You know, it seems like he is so comfortable, accepting, and excited about finishing the transition that I think (hope) he tells Kris he's doing this on his own terms, not hers.
I mean, does anybody really give a fuck what Kris has to say? This isn't about her. I think Bruce is completely charming, engaging and he has drawn me in with this interview. It's nice to see him like this. He's got this on his own, I'm not sure what Kris has to say will be relevant.
Oh, I don't give a shit was Kris has to say. It's just sick that Kris is so concentrated on image and making money and it's really refreshing to see how happy Bruce is.
You know, it seems like he is so comfortable, accepting, and excited about finishing the transition that I think (hope) he tells Kris he's doing this on his own terms, not hers.
They're divorced, she can't demand any terms.
I didn't know this. Am I the only person on earth who didn't know this?
You know, it seems like he is so comfortable, accepting, and excited about finishing the transition that I think (hope) he tells Kris he's doing this on his own terms, not hers.
They're divorced, she can't demand any terms.
Come on, you know what I meant - Kris manipulates everyone around her that she can. It's nice to see someone to say "no, I'm doing it my way and I'm not going to let you whore me out".
Post by underwaterrhymes on Apr 24, 2015 21:54:52 GMT -5
Do you know if they will air this again or if you can watch it online?
I didn't DVR it because we are moving Tuesday and I won't have a chance between now and then to see it, but after this thread I really would like to watch it.
Can you imagine the people who haven't seen this, whose only perception is either the olympics or that fucking show? They have such a narrow perspective on who she is.
Yeah, the "this is me" and saying he wants people to be open minded - he seems like a great person and seems like he really wants to open a discussion and bring attention to the struggles people who are transgendered/transitioning.
Interesting. I don't believe her "camp" wasn't contacted for an interview. But I do hope she is truly watching this with Bruce and that they're in a good place, for Bruce's sake.
It seemed like all of the children were mentioned or pictured except for Rob. I wonder how this has been for him.
Interesting. You're right. I'm assuming rob didn't want to be talked about and Bruce respected that - unlike the kardashians when rob wants to be left off tv.
Post by vampsterdam on Apr 24, 2015 22:02:53 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how Laverne Cox responds (they interviewed her regarding Bruce, and said she didn't want to respond until she saw the interview)
Come on, you know what I meant - Kris manipulates everyone around her that she can. It's nice to see someone to say "no, I'm doing it my way and I'm not going to let you whore me out".
I just don't think Kris has to be any part of this, she's not. Why would she have any control over his transition?
I never once said she would/could have any control over his transition. He's still tied to the Kardashian family and you know there is no way that Kris wouldn't try and spin this transition into something to promote the Kardashians. That's it.
OK, a few people said it's pretty well known/rumored that Kanye is gay. I know it was a rumor but is it more than just a rumor?
I had heard this rumor but part of me wonders if it's just because he has condemned the hatred prevalent in the hiphop community toward the LGBTQ community.
I don't think it's based on any sort of fact at this point, although I'm sure he could be gay or bi.
He posted one, and only one, photo on Instagram calling his sister Kim "the bitch from Gone Girl".
So I wonder if he wasn't on because he has some personal issues, and not so much that he has issues with his dad.
That was a joke, I think.
I know Kim's PR team posted that it was just Rob joking around, but someone here posted a link that Rob has depression and has issues with Kim, and her team was trying to downplay it.
OK, a few people said it's pretty well known/rumored that Kanye is gay. I know it was a rumor but is it more than just a rumor?
I had heard this rumor but part of me wonders if it's just because he has condemned the hatred prevalent in the hiphop community toward the LGBTQ community.
I don't think it's based on any sort of fact at this point, although I'm sure he could be gay or bi.
There have been a lot of rumours that he carried on a relationship with Riccardo Tesci. @booby would know the details.
I never once said she would/could have any control over his transition. He's still tied to the Kardashian family and you know there is no way that Kris wouldn't try and spin this transition into something to promote the Kardashians. That's it.
I deduced 'control' from your comments. I am just not sure why you keep being Kris up, in the sense that she can manipulate or twist/spin this. He's in charge here.
I'm sorry if my comments made it seem like I thought Kris could control Bruce - he's doing what he wants and Kris can't make him do anything. However, they split in 2013 and it took this long for Bruce to feel comfortable enough to open up about this that it seems she still has/had some influence, and all I said was that it was nice that he was brave/comfortable enough to say, "I'm doing it my way" (please note, he did not specifically say this lest you begin to pick that apart).
If this explanation doesn't work than either you are being obtuse or I'm not conveying my thoughts very well or both, all I know is that I don't want to keep going back and forth on this tonight.
What a great interview! Diane did a great job. Love Bruce... his children seem so positive. I kinda want to give Kris the benefit of the doubt but she has done such crappy things in the past. Things like wanting to change her name back to kardashian while still with Bruce and saying she now wishes she never divorced Robert during an interview last fall.
I'm sorry if my comments made it seem like I thought Kris could control Bruce - he's doing what he wants and Kris can't make him do anything. However, they split in 2013 and it took this long for Bruce to feel comfortable enough to open up about this that it seems she still has/had some influence, and all I said was that it was nice that he was brave/comfortable enough to say, "I'm doing it my way" (please note, he did not specifically say this lest you begin to pick that apart).
If this explanation doesn't work than either you are being obtuse or I'm not conveying my thoughts very well or both, all I know is that I don't want to keep going back and forth on this tonight.
I don't know how to post gifs but even if I did I'm not sure what I'd post. But I see that when you reply/quote a gif it moves every time you type so I've been typing, deleting, typing because it's hilarious - I can control him!!