Based on the story, I think they were both in the wrong. It's never okay to yell at a child, especially one that's not your own. But it's also not okay to let your child scream/cry incessantly in a restaurant. The parents should have taken the child out and/or the owner should have asked the parents to leave.
But it's not like she snapped she is defending herself and seriously obnoxious. I hate screaming kids in restutants but this lady was more pissed about the 3 pancakes they ordered for their kid it is so bizarre.
I don't know how anyone can watch a video of her or look at her facebook page and think she is giving an accurate account of what happened. She is a fucking lunatic.
Let's be serious, how many times have you ever experienced this -- a child truly screaming for forty minutes in a restaurant? Usually a child cries, parents throw every trick in the book at them to make it stop, and maybe five minutes later (which feels like a god damn eternity to the parents BTW) someone takes them out. I call complete bullshit on someone who says the see "entitled parents" all the time. There is a certain segment of society with out kids -- either by choice, or circumstances, or being young and dumb and thinking they know it all -- that has a zero tolerance policy we noise out of tiny humans.
And let's presume these parents were the .01% of true assholes -- you yell at them. You don't call a child a beast. I truly can't wrap my head around anyone thinking this chick has an accurate story -- unless you need an excuse for a good "kids are assholes" pile on.
And finally -- it's a fucking dinner, not the Four Seasons. jesus the way she goes on and on about the "three big pancakes" should be clue one she is a fucking nutbag.
I mean honestly, I side eye the fact that people just read shit on Facebook or the news and assume because someone said it, it's true. Especially when all context clues point to the person saying it being unhinged.
But it's not like she snapped she is defending herself and seriously obnoxious. I hate screaming kids in restutants but this lady was more pissed about the 3 pancakes they ordered for their kid it is so bizarre.
The pancake thing is so fucking bizarre! Hello -- this is a crazy person!
I mean honestly, I side eye the fact that people just read shit on Facebook or the news and assume because someone said it, it's true. Especially when all context clues point to the person saying it being unhinged.
Yes! The FB page for the diner alone shows she is a hot fucking mess. Seriously this lady is crazy cakes and a liar.
I mean, the owner definitely sounds crazy. But if the parents were truly ignoring their screaming kid, they're assholes too.
But that's the thing I don't believe one word this BSC lady says. There were supposedly 74 other people in the restaurant where are they? No one has come forward. I seriously wonder if this is just a big PR stunt.
Who can say they have ever witnessed a parent sit with a screaming child for 40 minutes?
This is what does happen. A two year old whines about some asshole two year old thing for three minutes. Parents -- being actually parents who experience -- ignore the kid because they know damn well it is the best way to get them to STFU about it. Then, some asshole whines on the internet about how a kid went on and on for hours.
This is one of those things where bitter people who feel they are put upon my kids like to rally their troops. And parents like to complain because they know they are oh such great parents who would never ever ignore their kid for 40 minutes.
Try and wrap your head around a kid crying for 40 minutes? Who the hell actually would believe that?
Sure, the kid cried. The parents probably "ignored them" -- you know, because that is what you are fucking suppose to do.
Maybe the entire thing was five minutes beginning to end.
In a fucking diner -- not French Laundry.
Omg I was just about to post the same thing! Everyone online is all like if I am paying for a restaurant meal I don't want to hear kids scream. Dude you are at a fucking diner for greasy food not some fancy steak place. There are going to be kids in these places.
I don't know how anyone can watch a video of her or look at her facebook page and think she is giving an accurate account of what happened. She is a fucking lunatic.
Let's be serious, how many times have you ever experienced this -- a child truly screaming for forty minutes in a restaurant? Usually a child cries, parents throw every trick in the book at them to make it stop, and maybe five minutes later (which feels like a god damn eternity to the parents BTW) someone takes them out. I call complete bullshit on someone who says the see "entitled parents" all the time. There is a certain segment of society with out kids -- either by choice, or circumstances, or being young and dumb and thinking they know it all -- that has a zero tolerance policy we noise out of tiny humans.
And let's presume these parents were the .01% of true assholes -- you yell at them. You don't call a child a beast. I truly can't wrap my head around anyone thinking this chick has an accurate story -- unless you need an excuse for a good "kids are assholes" pile on.
And finally -- it's a fucking dinner, not the Four Seasons. jesus the way she goes on and on about the "three big pancakes" should be clue one she is a fucking nutbag.
All of this. There's also a few people claiming to be diners who said the kid was crying for about 4 minutes, not 40. I think I saw it on the today show page... I don't buy the owner's story at all.
And even if the kid was crying for 40 minutes, you don't yell at a kid that isn't yours. Kids cry. If your business isn't exclusive to adults, deal with it.
What is the issue with full size pancakes at marcys? Just the griddle size? Why are you selling them then? She can't be the only one to ever order 3 pancakes lol
Try and wrap your head around a kid crying for 40 minutes? Who the hell actually would believe that?
Sure, the kid cried. The parents probably "ignored them" -- you know, because that is what you are fucking suppose to do.
Maybe the entire thing was five minutes beginning to end.
In a fucking diner -- not French Laundry.
Oh I've definitely heard it. One time not too long ago parents brought their maybe 3 month old baby in. Kid cried the whole time and I didn't see parents try to pick him up once. Didn't even try to rush through dinner-sat there conversing while eating like nothing was happening. The funny part is while I don't work at the four seasons it's certainly more upscale than a diner. Parents thinking other patrons are entitled to hear their precious scream happens more than you think.
I understand the theory of ignoring kids when they act like an asshole but it's terribly inconsiderate of other people to do so. I would never judge someone with a tantrumming kid-we have all been there. I do judge the people who sit there and just let it happen (outside of some fussing that passes within a few minutes).
Don't get me wrong-I get this business owner is insane and clearly in the wrong. Just sayin people letting their kids carry on and doing nothing about it happens more than you probably think.
Who can say they have ever witnessed a parent sit with a screaming child for 40 minutes?
This is what does happen. A two year old whines about some asshole two year old thing for three minutes. Parents -- being actually parents who experience -- ignore the kid because they know damn well it is the best way to get them to STFU about it. Then, some asshole whines on the internet about how a kid went on and on for hours.
I haven't witnessed that specifically, but I have witnessed parents who allow their children to have free reign to do whatever they want and be loud in a restaurant. A few months ago, we were at a restaurant and a family with three young toddler/preschool aged kids allowed them to chase each other around the dining room the entire time they were there.
Now this lady obviously seems insane. If other diners are saying it was 4 minutes, that's probably the real story and NBD. And I don't ever think it's okay to yell at someone else's kid, but there are asshole parents who let their children be unruly and disruptive.
Try and wrap your head around a kid crying for 40 minutes? Who the hell actually would believe that?
Sure, the kid cried. The parents probably "ignored them" -- you know, because that is what you are fucking suppose to do.
Maybe the entire thing was five minutes beginning to end.
In a fucking diner -- not French Laundry.
Oh I've definitely heard it. One time not too long ago parents brought their maybe 3 month old baby in. Kid cried the whole time and I didn't see parents try to pick him up once. Didn't even try to rush through dinner-sat there conversing while eating like nothing was happening. The funny part is while I don't work at the four seasons it's certainly more upscale than a diner. Parents thinking other patrons are entitled to hear their precious scream happens more than you think.
I understand the theory of ignoring kids when they act like an asshole but it's terribly inconsiderate of other people to do so. I would never judge someone with a tantrumming kid-we have all been there. I do judge the people who sit there and just let it happen (outside of some fussing that passes within a few minutes).
Don't get me wrong-I get this business owner is insane and clearly in the wrong. Just sayin people letting their kids carry on and doing nothing about it happens more than you probably think.
Oh I've definitely heard it. One time not too long ago parents brought their maybe 3 month old baby in. Kid cried the whole time and I didn't see parents try to pick him up once. Didn't even try to rush through dinner-sat there conversing while eating like nothing was happening. The funny part is while I don't work at the four seasons it's certainly more upscale than a diner. Parents thinking other patrons are entitled to hear their precious scream happens more than you think.
I understand the theory of ignoring kids when they act like an asshole but it's terribly inconsiderate of other people to do so. I would never judge someone with a tantrumming kid-we have all been there. I do judge the people who sit there and just let it happen (outside of some fussing that passes within a few minutes).
Don't get me wrong-I get this business owner is insane and clearly in the wrong. Just sayin people letting their kids carry on and doing nothing about it happens more than you probably think.
Don't you work at like Applebee's?
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I do not. More upscale than Applebee's (but not super fancy either). Not a chain, either.
Post by thecheshirekat on Jul 21, 2015 12:58:09 GMT -5
This story and all of the crazy-ass Facebook comments really grated my cheese when I read it yesterday. When we had our first kid, I was super anxious about him making any noise in a restaurant because I remembered my child-free days when it would drive me nuts to hear kids being annoying in public. I'd take him out of places at the first sign of any disruption. Fast forward to me having three small kids. I'm usually on my own with them, and every now and then we go eat in restaurants. With all of the hassle you go through to get two toddlers and a preschooler settled at a table by yourself, order food, drag enough gear in, etc., I'll be damned if I'm going to pack everyone up and leave just because one kid makes a little noise. NOT 40 minutes worth of noise, which is an absolute eternity in toddler tantrum land, but a couple minutes of crying or a squeal from a restless kid just isnt enough to make me pack up our Denny's breakfast so we don't offend a couple of cranky old people.
What I find ironic: there are so many people in those angry Facebook comments who say things like "if you want to go out to eat with your kids, take them to McDonalds." I bet you anything these are the same people who will judge the hell out of you for feeding a two year old McDonalds. There's no winning.
But it's not like she snapped she is defending herself and seriously obnoxious. I hate screaming kids in restutants but this lady was more pissed about the 3 pancakes they ordered for their kid it is so bizarre.
Who can say they have ever witnessed a parent sit with a screaming child for 40 minutes?
This is what does happen. A two year old whines about some asshole two year old thing for three minutes. Parents -- being actually parents who experience -- ignore the kid because they know damn well it is the best way to get them to STFU about it. Then, some asshole whines on the internet about how a kid went on and on for hours.
Because if you're not actually parenting a toddler, 3 minutes of toddler whining can actually feel like 40 minutes.