Are train rides even quiet? Wouldn't you have to talk fairly loud over the train noise in the first place? I mean who expects a moving vehicle the size of...well...a train....to be a quiet experience?
That's what I'm thinking. A large group of wine-happy women on a train is going to be loud, no matter what color their skin.
I think the company needs to do some apologizing and reexamine their policies.
Are train rides even quiet? Wouldn't you have to talk fairly loud over the train noise in the first place? I mean who expects a moving vehicle the size of...well...a train....to be a quiet experience?
That's what I'm thinking. A large group of wine-happy women on a train is going to be loud, no matter what color their skin.
I think the company needs to do some apologizing and reexamine their policies.
It's not just the company. It's the obviously white people who complained who need to reexamine their biases.
Are train rides even quiet? Wouldn't you have to talk fairly loud over the train noise in the first place? I mean who expects a moving vehicle the size of...well...a train....to be a quiet experience?
Seriously. This ain't the Long Island Rail Road's 7:30 am train into Penn Station. And even then, that's why iPods were invented.
Are train rides even quiet? Wouldn't you have to talk fairly loud over the train noise in the first place? I mean who expects a moving vehicle the size of...well...a train....to be a quiet experience?
Yeah, it's the wine country equivalent of a booze cruise. You are taking a train around to day drink. It's not the fucking quiet car on the Acela Express. Sure, you've got your tight asses that go to wine country to be snooty and look for the perfect cab to cellar, but those people are not on this train. This is for tourists that want to spend the day getting loaded on 1 ounce tasting pours.
Thank you for confirming my long-held impression of the Wine Train.
That's what I'm thinking. A large group of wine-happy women on a train is going to be loud, no matter what color their skin.
I think the company needs to do some apologizing and reexamine their policies.
It's not just the company. It's the obviously white people who complained who need to reexamine their biases.
Yes, that's true - I'm also wondering just how many other people complained. My guess is not that many, and that it'd take far more complaints for a group of white women to get kicked off.
I already know who complained. Although I don't know. It was some quiet white well to do boomer couple. Empty nesters. The guy was wearing a Tommy Bahama button up and khaki pants. The wife with unnatural blonde hair was in white capris and some tasteful top. Wedges on the feet. Probably tourists from Texas or the south. Or Maybe the red part of California.
Yeah, it's the wine country equivalent of a booze cruise. You are taking a train around to day drink. It's not the fucking quiet car on the Acela Express. Sure, you've got your tight asses that go to wine country to be snooty and look for the perfect cab to cellar, but those people are not on this train. This is for tourists that want to spend the day getting loaded on 1 ounce tasting pours.
Thank you for confirming my long-held impression of the Wine Train.
I've actually never been on it, but I've seen the crowds. It's all bachelorette parties, 40th birthday parties, and douchebag crews. And it stops at these massive wine tasting megaplexes that cater towards huge crowds. If you want a quiet day in Napa, this is not what you do.
I already know who complained. Although I don't know. It was some quiet white well to do boomer couple. Empty nesters. The guy was wearing a Tommy Bahama button up and khaki pants. The wife with unnatural blonde hair was in white capris and some tasteful top. Wedges on the feet. Probably tourists from Texas or the south. Or Maybe the red part of California.
Yes. People with bad taste who think a Wine Train is going to be a classy experience.
I'm not saying everyone on there is a partier. But that it caters towards groups of people looking to have fun. Some might be loud and obnoxious, some might just be a big group of people looking to chill out and laugh and have a good time. Nobody who is on there is someone looking to have a quiet day in a few private rooms to sip and spit $250 limited release cabs.
I believe Tillie debuted in the thread we had about the 12 year old who was shot by the officer in Cleveland. That crazy ass poster rolled up in there saying killing the child was cool and Tillie co-signed all day every day.
tillie, it isn't one thing, it's just your overall tone and beliefs.
I already know who complained. Although I don't know. It was some quiet white well to do boomer couple. Empty nesters. The guy was wearing a Tommy Bahama button up and khaki pants. The wife with unnatural blonde hair was in white capris and some tasteful top. Wedges on the feet. Probably tourists from Texas or the south. Or Maybe the red part of California.
When I'm an empty nester on a wine train with the husband, I plan on being as drunk and loud as possible.
These (theoretical) people are uptight losers.
IT'S A WINE TRAIN. Folks need to take the stick out.
Post by rootbeerfloat on Aug 25, 2015 13:17:03 GMT -5
I rode the wine train once. My H likes touristy things and thought it would be fun for my birthday. Once was enough lol. I'd rather actually visit wineries.
In the written statement, Giaccio invited the book club members and their guests to return to the wine train, in which they could fill an entire car of 50 seats "as my personal guests in a reserved car where you can enjoy yourselves as loudly as you desire."
Are you FUCKING kidding me?
"Please, come back! Where we can segregate you in a car all your own, and you won't bother anyone else."
"You can have a whole car to yourself to be as loud as you want."
This rubs me the wrong way...
Yeah, he should have left out the "as loudly as you desire part," and just stopped with "where you can enjoy yourselves." Adding "as loudly as you desire" definitely put the blame back on them for getting kicked off.
I don't know that this is 100% appropriate to this thread, but this video popped up in my FB 2x today and I do think it speaks to the different experiences of black and white women (people, but everyone happens to be women in these stories).
"You can have a whole car to yourself to be as loud as you want."
This rubs me the wrong way...
Yes! Because the whole train was likely enjoying themselves except for the cranky folks who thought it was supposed to be some relaxing ride where people drank coffee and tea and read books instead of partaking in alcohol and lively conversation. Like other trains, it would be easier to designate one quiet car than it would be to try to enforce arbitrary standards on the entire train.
I'm fairly certain I wouldn't like a wine train. I'd end up depressed and sea sick, I just know it.
I get motion sick on every mode of transportation -- unpredictably so I don't know til I'm on it and sick -- so let's throw some alcohol on top of that and see how we fare.
You and I will sit at the bar and wait for the call to pick everyone up.
Post by tacosforlife on Aug 25, 2015 15:58:56 GMT -5
I do not believe for a second that these ladies were any more obnoxious than your average run of the mill white chicks. After all, when NitaX, iammalcolmx, 1234FIF!, and I met for drinks, only one of us got drunk and misbehaved so badly she could never again show her face at the bar.
From what I read originally and saw on the news, no I did not think this incident was racist. As more information comes out (i.e. that they had the police called on them) I do see it. I never at any point thought this group was did anything else beyond being loud.
Except the article I linked said the cops were puzzled and the passengers were cool with the ladies
"This prick is asking for someone here to bring him to task Somebody give me some dirt on this vacuous mass so we can at last unmask him I'll pull the trigger on it, someone load the gun and cock it While we were all watching, he got Washington in his pocket."