And that's part of the problem with homeschooling. Real life doesn't usually work like that. You do have to get up and go to a job, you do have to give up free time to work so you can pay the bills, etc. School is the training ground for some of these realities so that when it's time you are prepared.
No. School is the training ground for one type of reality and future. Entreprenuers can make their own schedules. People can work different shifts if they aren't morning people. People can work from home in their pjs if they hate being around people. You can get a job working outside if you hate being inside.
I would argue that homeschooling prepares you better for the wide variety of options available in the workforce. Not everyone will or wants to work a 9-5 in an office setting.
Do expect or intend for your children to get a college education? Or some type of trade certification like electrical or plumbing?
Also at 8 yo I am not concerned with preparing him for a job. Children learn best through play and a good balance of both is key. As they get older, formal lesson times lengthen. But ultimately you're teaching them to be goal oriented not prople who feel like they have to ait at a desk for a certain number of hours a day for no reason. Tou get your wirk done for the day and you get to play, whether it takes you two hours or ten.
And that's part of the problem with homeschooling. Real life doesn't usually work like that. You do have to get up and go to a job, you do have to give up free time to work so you can pay the bills, etc. School is the training ground for some of these realities so that when it's time you are prepared.
No. School is the training ground for one type of reality and future. Entreprenuers can make their own schedules. People can work different shifts if they aren't morning people. People can work from home in their pjs if they hate being around people. You can get a job working outside if you hate being inside.
I would argue that homeschooling prepares you better for the wide variety of options available in the workforce. Not everyone will or wants to work a 9-5 in an office setting.
but most of those (besides shift work) are fairly limited and not going to be an option for most people, and even shift work you are usually assigned a shift based on the needs of the employer not your preference until you get enough seniority to request a shift. Not many jobs allow you to work from home regularly at least not starting out. Sure you can do outside labor if that's your thing but again you still are going to have to get up and out the door relatively on time and work a full day to make enough to support a family.
And that's part of the problem with homeschooling. Real life doesn't usually work like that. You do have to get up and go to a job, you do have to give up free time to work so you can pay the bills, etc. School is the training ground for some of these realities so that when it's time you are prepared.
No. School is the training ground for one type of reality and future. Entreprenuers can make their own schedules. People can work different shifts if they aren't morning people. People can work from home in their pjs if they hate being around people. You can get a job working outside if you hate being inside.
I would argue that homeschooling prepares you better for the wide variety of options available in the workforce. Not everyone will or wants to work a 9-5 in an office setting.
What fantasy land do you live in where it's so easy to just get a job where you can work in your Pj's all day? Or start a successful business? You realize most self owned businesses starting out actually don't have flexible schedules and most of the time end up having to put in more work than a 9 to 5 does. You make getting a job that meets your standards for the quality of life you want to lead so easy. If that's the mentality you're teaching your child they will seriously be in for a rude awakening. Not everyone is lucky enough to just cherry pick their job so that it can cater to their life and what they are used to.
No not everyone wants to work 9 to 5 but guess what life happens and bills have to be paid, so sacrifices have to be made even if it means, gasp waking up early.
No. School is the training ground for one type of reality and future. Entreprenuers can make their own schedules. People can work different shifts if they aren't morning people. People can work from home in their pjs if they hate being around people. You can get a job working outside if you hate being inside.
I would argue that homeschooling prepares you better for the wide variety of options available in the workforce. Not everyone will or wants to work a 9-5 in an office setting.
Do expect or intend for your children to get a college education? Or some type of trade certification like electrical or plumbing?
We support them in whatever path they choose. The great thing is that there are so many higher ed options out there now. They can get degrees online if they don't like the classroom setting.
And that's part of the problem with homeschooling. Real life doesn't usually work like that. You do have to get up and go to a job, you do have to give up free time to work so you can pay the bills, etc. School is the training ground for some of these realities so that when it's time you are prepared.
No. School is the training ground for one type of reality and future. Entreprenuers can make their own schedules. People can work different shifts if they aren't morning people. People can work from home in their pjs if they hate being around people. You can get a job working outside if you hate being inside.
I would argue that homeschooling prepares you better for the wide variety of options available in the workforce. Not everyone will or wants to work a 9-5 in an office setting.
Where are these magical jobs? Why doesn't everyone do them?
And that's part of the problem with homeschooling. Real life doesn't usually work like that. You do have to get up and go to a job, you do have to give up free time to work so you can pay the bills, etc. School is the training ground for some of these realities so that when it's time you are prepared.
No. School is the training ground for one type of reality and future. Entreprenuers can make their own schedules. People can work different shifts if they aren't morning people. People can work from home in their pjs if they hate being around people. You can get a job working outside if you hate being inside.
I would argue that homeschooling prepares you better for the wide variety of options available in the workforce. Not everyone will or wants to work a 9-5 in an office setting.
Much of what you are describing requires at a minimum, a GED.
Much more of it requires college.
Which generally requires you prove you learned something.
More of an aside to this larger discussion, but I'm currently watching Pioneer Woman on cooking channel and she mentioned they homeschool.
How can two people who run a ranch and her giant cooking show/blog/business possibly have time to manage the education of 4? 5? children? Doesn't it require at least one full time parent? I can't help to think this is more unschooling than homeschooling.
I'm not opposed to homeschooling. But everytime I hear about specific situations like this I just think - yeah, I barely have enough hours in the day as it is and I live in a condo and don't run my own business. I couldn't possibly. I like the idea of a place with a professional educator on math, and one on literature, and one on art... and wow, how convenient that they are all in one building! Yes! Send the kids there!
My guess is they hire tutors. At least I hope they do.
I think it depends on the age of the kids. Most curriculum takes far less time than a typical school day. I was able to complete everything in 2-3 hours a day. When there aren't any other distractions or others needing helping it goes quickly. Also, as an older student I was 90% independent. I did not have a parent helping me (I called/emailed for help from my correspondence school). I also went to school year round, which helped spread out the course load.
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I guess I teach my kids that anything is possible if they work hard enough. Maybe I wouldn't think that if they wete publically educated.
My friend supports herself as a doula. She has no office hours and works odd hours. I have friends who are writers and dance teachers who only work evenings. I have a friend who farms for a living. I know just as many people working odd jobs and hours as I do traditionsl ones. I'm not sure what kind of world you people live in where you think you have to be some cog in a 9-5 machine. Public school indoctrination at its finest. Lol
We support them in whatever path they choose. The great thing is that there are so many higher ed options out there now. They can get degrees online if they don't like the classroom setting.
They can wear pajamas for the rest of their lives!
I mean, who DOESN'T feel fancy and professional in some Suit Pajamas!
Also: What type of humanism is being taught in public school and why is it bad??? I was not aware of humanism being taught. And any humanism I've heard of is pretty...awesome?
I guess I teach my kids that anything is possible if they work hard enough. Maybe I wouldn't think that if they wete publically educated.
My friend supports herself as a doula. She has no office hours and works odd hours. I have friends who are writers and dance teachers who only work evenings. I have a friend who farms for a living. I know just as many people working odd jobs and hours as I do traditionsl ones. I'm not sure what kind of world you people live in where you think you have to be some cog in a 9-5 machine. Public school indoctrination at its finest. Lol
I guess I teach my kids that anything is possible if they work hard enough. Maybe I wouldn't think that if they wete publically educated.
My friend supports herself as a doula. She has no office hours and works odd hours. I have friends who are writers and dance teachers who only work evenings. I have a friend who farms for a living. I know just as many people working odd jobs and hours as I do traditionsl ones. I'm not sure what kind of world you people live in where you think you have to be some cog in a 9-5 machine. Public school indoctrination at its finest. Lol
I guess I teach my kids that anything is possible if they work hard enough. Maybe I wouldn't think that if they wete publically educated.
My friend supports herself as a doula. She has no office hours and works odd hours. I have friends who are writers and dance teachers who only work evenings. I have a friend who farms for a living. I know just as many people working odd jobs and hours as I do traditionsl ones. I'm not sure what kind of world you people live in where you think you have to be some cog in a 9-5 machine. Public school indoctrination Reality at its finest. Lol
I guess I teach my kids that anything is possible if they work hard enough. Maybe I wouldn't think that if they wete publically educated.
My friend supports herself as a doula. She has no office hours and works odd hours. I have friends who are writers and dance teachers who only work evenings. I have a friend who farms for a living. I know just as many people working odd jobs and hours as I do traditionsl ones. I'm not sure what kind of world you people live in where you think you have to be some cog in a 9-5 machine. Public school indoctrination at its finest. Lol
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The public schools should hand out more bootstraps with those free lunches.
Post by lolobeth802 on Aug 27, 2015 15:50:44 GMT -5
Hi. I'm part of growing number of (mostly) secular homeschoolers. I don't homeschool for religious reasons, I vaccinate my kids and lean pretty much to the left on everything. I live in a state with very little regulation for homeschoolers, but I would have zero problem with the government requiring my children to be tested and/or portfolio's of their work to be provided. I'm not sure how I would feel about government requiring home visits to check up on me though. I administer a standardized test at the end of the year so I can gage where my children fall. I also document and keep samples of their work. I spend hours upon hours researching and educating myself to further my personal level of knowledge and how to help my daughters succeed. I love homeschooling, it has truly been the most purposeful and rewarding thing I have ever done. I would encourage any of you who are truly curious about the world of homeschooling to check out "The Well Trained Mind" message board here on Tapatalk. You'll come across the entire range of homeschooling "types". From the non-secular to unschoolers and everything in between. Yes, you will most likely find things that support the negative side of homeschooling, but I know you'll mostly find people who truly believe (and have the right to do so), that what they are doing for their children is a gift and so beneficial. I have so many reasons that homeschooling works for MY family. It may not forever, it may not next week, but I plan to continue as long as we can.
Wow...my trip down memory lane is complete. Bob Jones, Abeka, all the talk of public school indoctrination and humanism...and now the well trained mind.
Wow...my trip down memory lane is complete. Bob Jones, Abeka, all the talk of public school indoctrination and humanism...and now the well trained mind.
Fucking A
You forgot "moral relativism". The dirtiest of fundamentalist dirty words.
Wow...my trip down memory lane is complete. Bob Jones, Abeka, all the talk of public school indoctrination and humanism...and now the well trained mind.
Fucking A
You forgot "moral relativism". The dirtiest of fundamentalist dirty words.
goodness, I can't believe I forgot that...all that higher education in humanistic, evil universities must have poisoned my brain!
ETA: Just in case my sarcasm catches anyone off, it's mostly steered towards my parents who do not support me in the decisions I've made for my life and continue to encourage my younger brothers and sisters to be "entrepreneurs".
And that's part of the problem with homeschooling. Real life doesn't usually work like that. You do have to get up and go to a job, you do have to give up free time to work so you can pay the bills, etc. School is the training ground for some of these realities so that when it's time you are prepared.
Exactly. And children aren't really able to know what an appropriate amount of social "outlet." And a huge thing home schooled kids will never learn is social structures that you find in school. When mommy and daddy handpick who you're exposed to, who you play sports with, who you interact with, they're creating a shelter that isn't indicative of real life.
And that's part of the problem with homeschooling. Real life doesn't usually work like that. You do have to get up and go to a job, you do have to give up free time to work so you can pay the bills, etc. School is the training ground for some of these realities so that when it's time you are prepared.
No. School is the training ground for one type of reality and future. Entreprenuers can make their own schedules. People can work different shifts if they aren't morning people. People can work from home in their pjs if they hate being around people. You can get a job working outside if you hate being inside.
I would argue that homeschooling prepares you better for the wide variety of options available in the workforce. Not everyone will or wants to work a 9-5 in an office setting.
Yes, because Lord knows jobs are that easy to hand pick.