My hair is a little below my waist right now. I remember when it was past my butt. I would sit on it and get pissed thinking people behind me were pulling it! You definitely fold it over your shoulder when peeing so it doesn't go down the toilet - ew!
My hair is painfully heavy at this length. I have to pull it up and let it rest on the head rest in the car on the way home. I only have it this long because I am letting it grow a couple of more inches and then will have 11" cut for CWHL and still have bra-strap length hair which is kind of ideal for my body size and hair. Since I'm starting to gray more and more this will probably the last donation I can make.
Post by imobviouslystaying on Nov 5, 2015 19:14:05 GMT -5
The phrasing and the way it's talked about can make it sound weird and sexual but the long, covered hair in various religions is about having something special between a husband and wife. And while on its face, it seems sexist, the majority of people who ascribe to that process or have historically have restrictions on men as well.
There are different incarnations of it throughout history. Even in the Victorian era and earlier. Women didn't cover their hair but they did wear it up. You wouldn't wear it down for anyone but your spouse.
Sikhs of both genders cover their hair. If you've seen the English Patient there's some business about Naveen Andrews letting Juliette Binoche see his hair without the turban.
Post by iammalcolmx on Nov 5, 2015 20:40:30 GMT -5
I don't mind women covering their hair to prevent men lusting after them. That is why some* Muslims cover their hair, because the hair is the most beautiful part.
*Once again I wish I had a recording of how disgusted H was with me, when I was going from Mosque to Mosque in Istanbul, and kept my head covered as we were walking around. He was legit embarrassed at people thinking his wife covered her hair, LOL!!! Secular Turks I swear.........
Now that AW called herself racist and GBCNed, can I ask a naive question?
If a white person wears dreads or cornrows to their professional job, are they negatively co-opting that hairstyle or are they making it more acceptable in a professional setting or both (assume that neither is their goal, but that they just like the hairstyle)? I read the whole thread trying to figure this out if it's ever acceptable for someone who looks white to have dreads or cornrows right now in our culture.
Or, neither...they can't keep it up due to negative feedback and cut them out. Much like the comments on this thread everyone assumes that they are unwashed and that you are a hippie drug user, despite all evidence to the contrary.
I love my dreads and miss them so much. I would absolutely have stuck with them as a hairstyle if it was at all a legitimate thing to do. As it is, I know that I missed opportunities and people didn't talk to me because of them. I also regularly, like any time I went anywhere had people ask me if I could wash my hair, how often and if they could touch it. The surprising part to me was that touching it was usually the first thing they tried. You'd think if you were wondering if this was nasty unwashed hair, you wouldn't be grabbing it, but whatever.
My hair was very well kept. I have thick hair and my scalp was never showing excessively or whatever.
I think that black people wearing dreads is more legitimate than white people with dreads.
Post by imobviouslystaying on Nov 5, 2015 21:30:45 GMT -5
I'm just amazed that miss ma'am can't see the inherent safety and cleanliness of asking to touch a white girl's dreads. But by all means, let's just keep behaving as if all people with dreads are perceived in the same manner.
Poor persecuted white girl dreads.
Also, I'm incredibly curious but at what point did you decide they weren't a legitimate thing to do? Because while granted, white folks' hair does grow out faster, you didn't do all that and have an awakening in a week.
I'm just amazed that miss ma'am can't see the inherent safety and cleanliness of asking to touch a white girl's dreads. But by all means, let's just keep behaving as if all people with dreads are perceived in the same manner.
Poor persecuted white girl dreads.
Also, I'm incredibly curious but at what point did you decide they weren't a legitimate thing to do? Because while granted, white folks' hair does grow out faster, you didn't do all that and have an awakening in a week.
So did you just get tired of the maintenance?
I absolutely do get that I was safe to approach. I still always thought it made them look stupid.
It's true I didn't really understand all the implications when I went with dreads. And of course to undo all those assumptions people had about me, all I had to do was cut my hair. Obviously I get that. I experienced it. But, by all means pretend that I don't post here and that you're just talking to the 18 year old in the picture.
I did and do love my hair that way, but I'm glad I cut them off too. No, not because of the maintenance. I thought we were having a conversation about hair and meaning and appropriation.
I don't mind women covering their hair to prevent men lusting after them. That is why some* Muslims cover their hair, because the hair is the most beautiful part.
*Once again I wish I had a recording of how disgusted H was with me, when I was going from Mosque to Mosque in Istanbul, and kept my head covered as we were walking around. He was legit embarrassed at people thinking his wife covered her hair, LOL!!! Secular Turks I swear.........
Interesting, the things you learn on CEP. I didn't realize there was so much tension? significance? between the two groups not just in national politics but in everyday life while you were just out taking care of errands.
Post by Scout'sHonor on Nov 6, 2015 11:22:40 GMT -5
I knew the AW deactivation was coming, the crazy had been ramping up over the last few weeks. It's like she was just itching for something to be offended by.
My sister and I got a few cornrows (just on the side above our ears) in Mexico back when I was 13. Silly white girls, thinking we were cool.
I had cornrows put in both times I went to Mexico as a teenager. At least the local women who did them made $40 each off of me?
I totally know white people with dreads. It is... not good. They truly do smell like patchouli and angst.
My white friend with dreads is also a patchouli scented hippie but no angst. She actually just took them out this past weekend after 10+years. I don't know what prompted the change.
Well I pretty much picked up from this thread that white people in dreads is amusing to totally stupid to BSC depending on who sees them.
I hung out with my girlfriend, who has dreads, at a makeup party last night, it took all my power not to ask her why she had them.
Did they look nice? I've just never seem them look any way other than this right here:
or this
And I just don't know why anybody would want their hair to look like that on purpose. But I could be underexposed.
More like this, but longer. Plus her hair is really curley so the wisps that she hasn't trained into dreads yet are like little curls. She primarily wears them up or down with a headband around her scalp area.
ETA - And no I didn't look up that tumbler by name - found by accident on google images.
I also wanted to add that my friend is not a patchouli hippie - she's a farmer turned mom and is married to a high ranking military guy. She's got a suburban house that is decorated well, but she is pretty environmental and loves nature.
My H used to have a coworker, white hippy girl, had dreads, lived in a "communal house", H would avoid her because she smelled awful. She had to shave her head because she got lice! An adult woman and her adult roommates all got lice! NO!
Also, when I was in HS I used to do all kinds of funky braids in my hair for track meets. I have really thick course hair and other girls on my team loved to due my hair. I did the cornrows on the side just above my ears a couple times, I never kept them in.