I just bought a car in April, and was actually CONGRATULATED by the salesman, with the words "how exciting! You bought a car all by yourself, Hubby wasn't even here!" That was after he went back and double checked with the finance guy that I really did buy it by myself, and that my husband didn't have to be there to sign.
Yes, he really said, that, including the word "hubby." If I hadn't already signed, I would have walked. He was beyond patronizing.
Post by explorer2001 on Jun 6, 2016 17:30:25 GMT -5
I actually got the finance guy at tge dealership I bought my last car from fired. The salesman was great and deserved his commission, but the finance guy was beyond unprofessional. Apparently management took my complaint very seriously because when. I went back for some additional paperwork later, they told me they fired him.
"Unfortunately, he's unavailable right now. He's at home cooking dinner/cleaning the house/taking care of the kids."
Lol, actually I said "why would I need my husband here?" When they did "well, if you want to buy it..." I said "I am allowed to buy a car for him, yes?" Then he got the keys.
When I bought my first car post-divorce, DH was with me. I'd spent a year researching and determining what I wanted. Headed to the dealership only to have the salesperson try to sell me on cars completely different. We were ready to walk and buy elsewhere when they suddenly remembered their "other lot." And in every step of the transaction after that, they tried to talk to DH instead of me, even though I was the one obviously driving the entire deal (no pun intended.) He'd simply look at them and say "talk to her. It's her car."
When I bought DH's car for him, I was thankfully treated as someone with a brain capable of making my own decisions. But there was sure a lot of backslapping and congratulations and "I've never had a wife buy a car for her husband before" going on when he came with me the next day to pick it up.
Just walking in to a car dealership I can feel my blood pressure go up and I'm in a foul mood before I even talk to anyone. I bought two cars in a row from the same woman at the same dealership, she knew I didn't want to mess around and honored that. Tell me what you have, tell how much it costs, what you are giving me for my trade-in. Then she retired. Car shopping shortens my life.
It was like 6 years ago so I don't remember exactly. Something about how unprofessional he was, that as a single (then recently divorced) woman applying with my own financing already lined up I should be treated with professional courtesy and respect. Then I probably ranted about hard sell tactics on GAP coverage and other things I repeatedly refused that he kept trying to add to the contract. How as a CPA I could do the math and calculate amortization just fine - see the spreadsheet on my laptop ( yes I brought the laptop to have my calcs with me during the negotiations). How wasting hours of my time when everything was otherwise done and trying to change the contract I negotiated with management was unacceptable. It was 45 minutes for test drive and negotiations, then 3+ hours with his loony. Oh and he left while we were finalizing negotiations because he didn't think I'd really buy a car that night and had to be called back by management to finish the paperwork. Oh yeah and I didn't need my dad's permission to buy my car. Dad drove so I could leave with my car when the paperwork was done. Salesman was great and only said hello to my dad, responded appropriately when I said I was there to buy my car: laptop, research and spreadsheets in hand. Salesman only asked my dad about leg room in the back during the final test drive and how the ride was in the backseat (both valid questions).
It was like 6 years ago so I don't remember exactly. Something about how unprofessional he was, that as a single (then recently divorced) woman applying with my own financing already lined up I should be treated with professional courtesy and respect. Then I probably ranted about hard sell tactics on GAP coverage and other things I repeatedly refused that he kept trying to add to the contract. How as a CPA I could do the math and calculate amortization just fine - see the spreadsheet on my laptop ( yes I brought the laptop to have my calcs with me during the negotiations). How wasting hours of my time when everything was otherwise done and trying to change the contract I negotiated with management was unacceptable. It was 45 minutes for test drive and negotiations, then 3+ hours with his loony. Oh and he left while we were finalizing negotiations because he didn't think I'd really buy a car that night and had to be called back by management to finish the paperwork. Oh yeah and I didn't need my dad's permission to buy my car. Dad drove so I could leave with my car when the paperwork was done. Salesman was great and only said hello to my dad, responded appropriately when I said I was there to buy my car: laptop, research and spreadsheets in hand. Salesman only asked my dad about leg room in the back during the final test drive and how the ride was in the backseat (both valid questions).
Sorry I was unclear; I meant to ask the OP but I'm glad you stuck up for yourself!
I experience some bad sexism in my profession from time to time but it always seems worse at car dealerships. What are those salespeople thinking?
This happened to my sister in law. From then on out she only went to places with female sales reps. Not that it's a guarantee to be treated better, but statistically it was more likely.
I also do the haggling in our relationship. Like when it comes to buying antiques or something, he always manages to fuck it up. Last time we bought something (awesome retro coffee and end table set from 1963), I threw out a number - as the sales guy hemmed and hawed over it and was getting ready to counter, DH helpfully offered "We are TERRIBLE at negotiating!"
I shot him a look and told him, "YOU are!". He knows he's not allowed to speak in those situations anymore.
Post by laurenpetro on Jun 6, 2016 19:16:33 GMT -5
Duh, wrong post.
And then to top it off I just got a collections call for my father. The guy kept pressing me until I ripped him for googling people who used to live with him and then getting my home number. He claimed my father put my number down as a contact.
No dude. It's bullshit for no other reason than the fact that my father never knew my home number. You know you're not calling the account holder.
Then he said he'd need my father to give permission to talk to me about his account. I told him to get his shovel ready 'cause he's about to start digging six feet and hung up.
How do you not end a conversation that starts with "I'm sorry but he's deceased" with anything other than "sorry for your loss. Have a good night."?
I walked out of a dealership that patronized me and asked about my husband (hint - I don't have one anymore). I sure did love having depreciation mansplained to me.
Bought a new car from a different dealer an hour away and greatly enjoyed telling dealership #1 why I didn't buy from them.
These guys are such morons that do this. Don't they read the stats about who is influencing car buying decisions - Per NPR - When it comes to buying a set of wheels, figures show women play a leading role in 85 percent of auto purchases.. I feel like I could make some money setting up courses for dearlerships with powerpoint presentations that state - Don't be a condescending dick to women.
I make all of these decisions in my household as my husband is not known for his negotiating skills.
I also do all of the negotiation online via email. So much less painful.
I tried this last year and they were like well we can't sell you the car if you don't agree to arbitration.
did you threaten to walk? Betcha the sale is more important than the agreement.
my last company would have let the person walk. The only time they don't is if the sales manager/finance person accidentally misses the signature on the contract (1 of the 11 customer signatures on that paper) and they've already delivered the vehicle. I've only seen that happen once.