The NRA is a hate group and a gun manufacturers' lobby, not a citizens group and not a constitutional rights organization. Those sick fucks are probably ecstatic right now. Nothing sells guns like white people seeing black people actually rise up, especially when what they are rising up for is to demand that the police stop being so fucking militarized and brutal to black people.
Fuck. I just saw this news and the tears started. I don't want to watch the video but I feel as though not watching is like burying my head and I won't do that. I've previously spoken with the mayor of my city about implicit bias in advertising and hiring for the police for (because I noticed all the ads I saw were in the upper class/white neighborhood) and I was happy with her response. But the FB post copied above, about learning more about my city's police procedures seems like a good place to start engaging locally.
The NRA is a hate group and a gun manufacturers' lobby, not a citizens group and not a constitutional rights organization. Those sick fucks are probably ecstatic right now. Nothing sells guns like white people seeing black people actually rise up, especially when what they are rising up for is to demand that the police stop being so fucking militarized and brutal to black people.
This means they will not be issuing the statement I am looking for? ::sucks teeth::
Post by redheadbaker on Jul 7, 2016 13:48:58 GMT -5
I'm still so FUCKING angry. Angry at the systemic racism. Angry at the culture of anti-intellectualism that has led us to Trump, who better not open his fucking orange mouth about this. Angry at everything.
Post by sparrowsong on Jul 7, 2016 14:02:13 GMT -5
I feel like I should comment on this but I don't have anything better to say than what complete bullshit this is. I'm glad for cell phones and social media and that people are documenting this disturbing reality. I hope eventually enough people will listen to make real change.
Long-time lurker here. In reading the thread, I saw some asking what can be done on an individual level.
A friend on Facebook shared this post:
C&P below
Ijeoma Oluo 11 hrs · Shoreline, WA · If you want to know what you can do - and no, you should not be asking a black person what you can do to fix the white supremacist murder of black people - but if you want to know some things you can do RIGHT FUCKING NOW here are some tweets I just posted: 1) Do you know your city's police accountability procedures? 2) Do your police have any provisions for citizen oversight? 3) Is there a civilian oversight panel to review police shootings and misconduct? 4) if you do not know this you can google your city with police accountability/review procedures 5) what is the threshold for indicting police for misconduct? Example: in Seattle (where I live) you have to prove willful malice. 6) Do your police have body cameras? 7) When you do your research, if you don't like the answers to these questions, if they do not hold police accountable, here's what u can do 8) Demand your city council member make police reform a priority. If they won't, vote them out - recruit friends to do the same. 9) Demand that your mayor do the same. If he/she won't vote them out & recruit friends to do the same. 10) Do not give money or votes to any candidate who will not make police reform a priority. Make sure they know that is a requirement 11) Demand that your sheriff and local DA's office do the same. 12) just google your city name + city council - all the contact info should be there. 13) along with phone numbers, email addresses - all the info u need to remind them that black lives WILL matter whether they want it or not 14) Do this today, do this tomorrow, do this every day like your life depends on it - ours actually does. Police reform should be on the lips of every local politician in this country bc they should know they will not get your support without it Ok? I shouldn't have to do this. I shouldn't have to process this and lay it all out while I'm fucking crying but I did so take some action.
thanks for this- i just emailed my local sheriff's office. I'm not surprised that only 2 of the 25+ people on their leadership page are POC. and 2 women
I was scoping out the NRA's website to see if they made a statement and came across this radio show live streaming...didn't know if anyone would be interested in listening.
No. This dude is again talking about folks like Al Sharpton and agitators. How are we defining an agitator? I'm a few minutes in and about to cut this off because this is not helping shit.
Post by penguingrrl on Jul 7, 2016 15:08:56 GMT -5
Fuck, I just don't know what to say. What is the appropriate response to genocide happening in our own country? How do black people and allies rise up and prevent this?
This is just all so infuriating. I love the suggestions offered in the above tweet, though. At least I'll feel like I'm doing something (even though it's not nearly enough.)
Racism is obviously the main root of this, but the training is exacerbating the problem, IMO, along with the toxic brotherhood and culture of misplaced respect that seems to surround the cops I know. I don't know many cops personally, but the two I do know have changed since becoming cops. It's this all powerful dick attitude that can never be wrong and never question anything a cop does. They act like their job is so dangerous (which they are in a small town, so that danger is relative, if you ask me). It's like because the job is dangerous, you have to turn off your brain and accept everything a cop does as the right action.
It also feels like with each shooting that goes unpunished the cops and cop apologists are emboldened.
They should have never been cops then. Period. This doesn't happen to good cops just because they had police training.
Fuck, I just don't know what to say. What is the appropriate response to genocide happening in our own country? How do black people and allies rise up and prevent this?
Chile, people been killing us since we were kidnapped and forced to work on land that wasn't ours or the kidnappers to begin with. And when we do rise up, our cities are burned to the ground.
Basically, stop voting for idiots who don't see us as human. Begin to demand that better regulations be created regarding police behavior and procedures. Don't be silent.
Racism is obviously the main root of this, but the training is exacerbating the problem, IMO, along with the toxic brotherhood and culture of misplaced respect that seems to surround the cops I know. I don't know many cops personally, but the two I do know have changed since becoming cops. It's this all powerful dick attitude that can never be wrong and never question anything a cop does. They act like their job is so dangerous (which they are in a small town, so that danger is relative, if you ask me). It's like because the job is dangerous, you have to turn off your brain and accept everything a cop does as the right action.
It also feels like with each shooting that goes unpunished the cops and cop apologists are emboldened.
They should have never been cops then. Period. This doesn't happen to good cops just because they had police training.
I agree completely. I actually think more stringent requirements to make the police force could help. They both just have this attitude that questioning the police at all is disrespectful, and they are people I know from high school who had disrespectful interactions with the police.
I don't know how they are as cops on the job but I can't imagine their overall attitude doesn't bleed over.
Racism is obviously the main root of this, but the training is exacerbating the problem, IMO, along with the toxic brotherhood and culture of misplaced respect that seems to surround the cops I know. I don't know many cops personally, but the two I do know have changed since becoming cops. It's this all powerful dick attitude that can never be wrong and never question anything a cop does. They act like their job is so dangerous (which they are in a small town, so that danger is relative, if you ask me). It's like because the job is dangerous, you have to turn off your brain and accept everything a cop does as the right action.
It also feels like with each shooting that goes unpunished the cops and cop apologists are emboldened.
Yes, so many times yes. For a long time I thought that this could be a "some cops" issue, not an "all cops" issue. That the racial violence committed by law enforcement reflected racial attitudes in the general population and it could fluctuate and shift depending on geography, communities, etc.
My brother became a cop last year. Every worst part of his personality has been amplified. He is now impossible to disagree with. He got married late in the year and left his wife not three months later. A million bad life decisions, treating everyone around him like shit, and we're not allowed to question him. Because as my mother says "he could die on the job tomorrow and I don't want to not have a relationship with him". There is no professional accountability, and no personal accountability.
So I've seen this first hand, and I absolutely believe it to be true. Its not just a few bad eggs. And our people of color are dying because of it.
Police training didn't do this. He was always an asshole. Sorry.
Fuck, I just don't know what to say. What is the appropriate response to genocide happening in our own country? How do black people and allies rise up and prevent this?
Chile, people been killing us since we were kidnapped and forced to work on land that wasn't ours or the kidnappers to begin with. And when we do rise up, our cities are burned to the ground.
Basically, stop voting for idiots who don't see us as human. Begin to demand that better regulations be created regarding police behavior and procedures. Don't be silent.
I'm sorry it has taken so long for me to acknowledge has terrible it has always been. My awareness has grown exponentially over the past few years but the events of this week make it apparent how much I clearly have still missed. And I will continue voting for candidates who recognize that we have a systemic problem in this country and aren't making excuses.
And I will demand more of my elected officials. I will speak up towards regulations that will change this. And I will continue to talk to my children about this and make sure they don't grow up in a bubble unaware, as I grew up.
I want to know what is going through the police officer's mind in the milliseconds before they shoot in all these situations. Is it that the person deserves it either way? Is it actual (but not actual rational) fear? Is it complete disrespect for procedure and training? Is it simple disregard for life? Is it knowledge and faith that there will be no consequences because of the colour of the skin of the person they are shooting?
Post by Black Lavender on Jul 7, 2016 16:57:49 GMT -5
I'm just so done with this...I'm done with a worthless ass Congress who doesn't want to do shit about this problem, yet you wanna talk about some fucking emails. FOH with that bullshit, these men are out here getting murdered! Every damn day I pray that it's not my husband, dad, nephew or cousin that is the next hashtag. I'm just done
I just saw this on CNN and just had a full on crazy cry. This means nothing. I'm at least alive to have these feelings when so many are not. That poor girl's life will always be altered. I think about my daughter. I hear her voice in that girl's voice. Could this happen to us? No it seems unlikely. This country has a fucking fascination with murdering black men and watching them die. It's a sport. As a country we are broken. Our nation was born on the backs of black men whom we viewed as less than human to justify our atrocities against them. And that feeling has never left.
Long-time lurker here. In reading the thread, I saw some asking what can be done on an individual level.
A friend on Facebook shared this post:
C&P below
Ijeoma Oluo 11 hrs · Shoreline, WA · If you want to know what you can do - and no, you should not be asking a black person what you can do to fix the white supremacist murder of black people - but if you want to know some things you can do RIGHT FUCKING NOW here are some tweets I just posted: 1) Do you know your city's police accountability procedures? 2) Do your police have any provisions for citizen oversight? 3) Is there a civilian oversight panel to review police shootings and misconduct? 4) if you do not know this you can google your city with police accountability/review procedures 5) what is the threshold for indicting police for misconduct? Example: in Seattle (where I live) you have to prove willful malice. 6) Do your police have body cameras? 7) When you do your research, if you don't like the answers to these questions, if they do not hold police accountable, here's what u can do 8) Demand your city council member make police reform a priority. If they won't, vote them out - recruit friends to do the same. 9) Demand that your mayor do the same. If he/she won't vote them out & recruit friends to do the same. 10) Do not give money or votes to any candidate who will not make police reform a priority. Make sure they know that is a requirement 11) Demand that your sheriff and local DA's office do the same. 12) just google your city name + city council - all the contact info should be there. 13) along with phone numbers, email addresses - all the info u need to remind them that black lives WILL matter whether they want it or not 14) Do this today, do this tomorrow, do this every day like your life depends on it - ours actually does. Police reform should be on the lips of every local politician in this country bc they should know they will not get your support without it Ok? I shouldn't have to do this. I shouldn't have to process this and lay it all out while I'm fucking crying but I did so take some action.
I posted this on my FB as well. Shoreline is not too far from where I live. I will have to check our county protocol since I'm outside city limits and within sheriff jurisdiction.
Post by anastasia517 on Jul 7, 2016 18:34:18 GMT -5
OMFG. I haven't looked at CEP today until now and I am just sickened to see all of this. Yet another murder of a POC.
My thoughts are with all the POC on this board. I cannot form anything more cohesive at the moment, but my eyes are wide open and I am angry and I couldn't read all these stories and not say anything.
The Maddow show is going all in on this. Good for them.
yea, I like that they listed out and re-visted so many of the previous killing sof POC by police. I think it's so important to keep telling their stories & saying their names over and over so everybody remembers.
Fuck, I just don't know what to say. What is the appropriate response to genocide happening in our own country? How do black people and allies rise up and prevent this?
Chile, people been killing us since we were kidnapped and forced to work on land that wasn't ours or the kidnappers to begin with. And when we do rise up, our cities are burned to the ground.
Basically, stop voting for idiots who don't see us as human. Begin to demand that better regulations be created regarding police behavior and procedures. Don't be silent.
This cop's department is in Keith Ellison's district, FWIW. I live in St. Anthony. It is a tiny suburb butted up against NE Mpls. My 5 and 6 year olds go to preschool / summer care in the community center which is in the same building the police station is in. As I dropped them off this morning all I could think about are the mothers of their black classmates. Walking into that building to leave their babies. In a place they probably felt safe right up until today. When they had to leave them down the hall from the cops who might shoot them in 10 years.
I am disgusted and outraged. I'm grossed out by the neighborhood FB page and all the "we should take breakfast to the station so they know they are supported". How about we see how they handle this before we feed the murderers some fuxkimgfucking donuts? I don't even know what to say or do. But I'm determined as a community to make sure the officer is held to account. Which is also scary being in a tiny community where everyone knows who you are. Picking a fight with the police dept. But I have that luxury, right? We are the ones who have to do it, right? I'm disgusted and ashamed.